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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 22:30:36 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-watched the Doctor&#8217;s Wife last night.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, one of the things said by a Time Lord voice emanating from the distress signal cubes is:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know where I am!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So:</p>
<p>1) people trapped by [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 05:10:52 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I need to make like a tree and leave&#8230; my brain is hurting again.  Time for sleep.</p>
<p>Tomorrow morning, I will probably drop this leaf nonsense and lie firmly in the &#8220;Hurt Doctor is Clara&#8217;s Father&#8221; camp&#8230; or something.</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 05:04:44 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/whohar/' rel="nofollow">@WhoHar</a> &#8211; Yeah, you&#8217;re right.  There are probably many more compelling reasons he&#8217;s going to be 8.5 instead of something earlier.  Not nice to play with people&#8217;s religion. 🙂</p>
<p>Plus, there&#8217;s always been this gap [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:47:56 +0000</pubDate>

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<p>Well, it&#8217;s really only the date of his regeneration if the writers make it so.  But it certainly fits.  The day after he meets Rose, he sees his face for the first time.  We must assume it was a VERY [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:33:29 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/whohar/' rel="nofollow">@WhoHar</a> &#8211; Oh, I think all cracks can be relevant.  So the universe re-booted!  Happens all the time.  Rory remembers, and Amy, and the Doctor.  It happened, the cracks were real, and cracks (by definition) cross [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:36:36 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But back to the leaf.</p>
<p>When Clara gives up the leaf in TRoA, right as she&#8217;s saying &#8220;days that should have been and never were&#8230;&#8221;, we see her mom&#8217;s grave, with the date of death being 5th March 2005.  As has [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:31:03 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-watching the finale, and a couple of thoughts.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know where I am!</p></blockquote>
<p>The line everyone said when they were uploaded into the wi fi in TBoSM was repeated by Clara at least twice in the Doctor&#8217;s timestream. [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:55:29 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/whohar/' rel="nofollow">@WhoHar</a> &#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>Hurt Doc is in the Doc’s timestream – everywhere and everywhen the Doc has been / is going to be. Shouldn’t cracks be appearing all over if that was the case?</p></blockquote>
<p>But haven&#8217;t they been?  In Amelia&#8217;s [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:40:06 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow">@Shazzbot</a> &#8211; Yeah, go ahead and flip things again so my brain can hurt even MORE! 🙂 (it already feels like a pancake)</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:26:12 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have access to my DVR right now, but if I&#8217;m not mistaken, isn&#8217;t the Whisper rhyme:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The man who lies will lie no more,</p>
<p>When <em>THIS MAN</em> lies at Trenzalore.&#8221;?? (not &#8220;when he&#8221;)</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m wrong. [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 01:29:03 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/whohar/' rel="nofollow">@WhoHar</a> &#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>Agreed – I think the Trenzalore prophecy has happened. Silence did fall – all the stars in the Universe went out. Pretty quiet after that I think.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, while we agree the prophecy has happened, I view [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 00:14:06 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/whohar/' rel="nofollow">@WhoHar</a> &#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>The van Gogh painting is open to interpretation – like most good art. My initial impression was as yours is, but now I am not so sure. I’ve not looked at it for a while. 1, 2 or 3 Tardii, colliding or [&hellip;]</p></blockquote>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 00:02:44 +0000</pubDate>

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<blockquote><p>When I saw the episode my first thought was that this had nothing to do with it, as it was not at the fall of the Eleventh, it was set after it. I think it may have been <a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/bluesqueakpip/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/bluesqueakpip/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/bluesqueakpip/' rel="nofollow">@Bluesqueakpip</a>(sorry if I’m [&hellip;]</p></blockquote>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 23:25:33 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/whohar/' rel="nofollow">@WhoHar</a> &#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe the van Gogh painting isn’t two Tardii colliding, maybe it’s one Tardis splitting into two.</p></blockquote>
<p>I was just looking at the painting last night because people were saying there were 3 Tardis&#8217;s in it. [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:30:07 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow">@Shazzbot</a> &#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>Also – it’s bothering me that just before stepping into the Doctor’s timestream in TNotD, Clara says ‘well whaddaya know, I’m Souffle Girl after all.’ She hasn’t been fragmented yet – how does she [&hellip;]</p></blockquote>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 03:11:01 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/lula/' rel="nofollow">@Lula</a> &#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>Continuity error?  Timey-wimey?   I’m not nit-picking, but Susan coining the acronym is canon, so…</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, if we start looking for continuity errors like that, we&#8217;d probably find thousands.  Admittedly, [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 17:45:26 +0000</pubDate>

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<blockquote><p>Oh!! What IF, when they finally step outside that timestream, everything has changed!  What if the Time War didn’t end due to the brutality of Hurt Doctor? What if The Doctor ends it, with healing? [&hellip;]</p></blockquote>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 14:18:16 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a completely bonkers theory, which we can call (for reasons about to be clear), &#8220;THE Bonkers Theory&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Doctor is crazy, and JH is only in his head.  He hasn&#8217;t ever really dealt with the horrible things he [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 14:10:48 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow">@Shazzbot</a> &#8211; He&#8217;s a comic; very dark, ultra-liberal.  Facilitator bit is on his CD &#8220;Shut Up You F*%#&amp;ing Baby!&#8221; Don&#8217;t think he would mind you using it 🙂</p>
<p>He also plays Tobias on Arrested Development, in addition [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I&#8217;ll take this further</strong> (although again, I still tend to lay in the 8.5 camp):</p>
<p>The first Doctor, the Hurt Doctor, the one who made the promise&#8230;  broke the promise.  The <strong>TIME LORDS</strong> imposed a penalty.  They [&hellip;]</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 13:53:14 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/timeloop/' rel="nofollow">@Timeloop</a> &#8211; River faded b/c the Doctor didn&#8217;t use Carbonite Online Backup?</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow">@Shazzbot</a> &#8211; Do you listen to David Cross?  (he has this bit&#8230; &#8220;I&#8217;m the &#8216;facilitator&#8217;!  I &#8216;facilitate&#8217;!&#8221;)</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 13:49:20 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thought that has just occurred to me.</p>
<p>First, I tend to lay pretty firmly in the camp that says JH will be between 8 &amp; 9, and have done something worse than we have even been told in the Time War (worse than [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow">@Shazzbot</a> &#8211; I don&#8217;t know, I tend to lean towards that they just didn&#8217;t want to repeatedly splice her into old sequences as with Hartnell.  I think that scene alone made the point.  The rest was all kind of [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 15:42:47 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/ardaraith/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/ardaraith/' rel="nofollow">@ardaraith</a> &#8211; Kudos to you!  You beat me to the punch about River being an echo of Clara!  I&#8217;m with you all the way!</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/juniperfish/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/juniperfish/' rel="nofollow">@Juniperfish</a> &#8211; Re their &#8220;frosty exchange&#8221; someone mentioned above as evidence they&#8217;re not the [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 05:35:29 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, first time post, and you read it here first:</p>
<p><strong>Clara is not River.  River is Clara.</strong></p>
<p>A lot of theories have posited that Clara was going to somehow end up being River &#8212; through CAL, or the TARDIS, or [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>brotherjohn became a registered member</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 04:44:04 +0000</pubDate>

				
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