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				<title>ScaryB replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 07:39:32 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it does move faast in here! 🙂</p>
<p>Yes, the leaf.  Agree with <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a>, it&#8217;s an enigma. It&#8217;s the thing that Clara &#8220;blew into the world on&#8221; (she also being a thing of infinite possibilities).  We&#8217;re told [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 05:09:19 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a></p>
<blockquote><p>He could easily have gone a day, or part of a day, not having seen his face No mirrors in the Tardis?  He’s not that superficial?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet he changed his clothes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m playing Devil&#8217;s advocate a little [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 05:00:49 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a>.</p>
<p>I think it may be a portent of Smith&#8217;s regeneration: Make like a tree and leave.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m in too much of a rush to even attempt to pick my coat up on the way out)</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:49:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s all about the leaf. :-). OK:</p>
<p>From a completely non-story perspective, I don&#8217;t think Moffat would have the Hurt Doctor anywhere else except between 8 &amp; 9, otherwise he makes a huge [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:21:20 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a>,</p>
<p>It is strongly implied that 9 had just regenerated in <em>Rose</em>, and that is the assumption that I made at the time.</p>
<p>You can make a case though, that it wasn&#8217;t done on that actual day.</p>
<p>From what [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:14:22 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a></p>
<p>Re: Cracks. It&#8217;s a good point, but it only affected the pre-Big Bang universe. Does that then imply that the end of this 3-season arc will loop back to tEH at some point?</p>
<p>Re: Leaf. That scene [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>Craig replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:59:55 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a> Thanks for pulling apart my theory 😀</p>
<p>You are right, of course, it is open to interpretation. I am still not convinced that at that point &#8220;no living creature may speak falsely or fail to give [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 19:02:10 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a> &#8211; yes.</p>
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<li>This man must fall as all men must</li>
<li>The fate of all is always dust.</li>
<li>The man who lies will lie no more</li>
<li>When this man lies at Trenzalore. </li>
<li>The girl who died he tried to save</li>
<li>She&#8217;ll [&hellip;]</li>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 03:29:28 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a></p>
<p>The whole Silence thing is ripe for such wordplay that I can&#8217;t believe Moffat will leave it alone for to much longer.</p>
<p>BTW: your name &#8211; you&#8217;re not a (Meddling) Monk are you?</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 00:53:30 +0000</pubDate>

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<blockquote><p>Now we all probably wish Van Gogh was a Realist and not an Impressionist!</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed :-). I wonder though, how he came to paint that in the first place.</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 00:16:38 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed &#8211; I think the Trenzalore prophecy has happened. Silence did fall &#8211; all the stars in the Universe went out. Pretty quiet after that I think.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/timeloop/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/timeloop/' rel="nofollow">@Timeloop</a> <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/scaryb/' rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/scaryb/' rel="nofollow">@ScaryB</a></p>
<p>Of course, all and any [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 00:09:23 +0000</pubDate>

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<p>The van Gogh painting is open to interpretation &#8211; like most good art. My initial impression was as yours is, but now I am not so sure. I&#8217;ve not looked at it for a while. 1, 2 or 3 Tardii, colliding [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>budinacup replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/misspawsintime/' rel="nofollow">@Misspawsintime</a> <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@Brotherjohn</a> <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/ardaraith/' rel="nofollow">@ardaraith</a>.</p>
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<p>on what leaf is Rivers name?????</p>
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				<title>ardaraith replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 18:12:14 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/misspawsintime/' rel="nofollow">@Misspawsintime</a> &#8211; Thank you for reminding me about the leaf with River&#8217;s name woven into it!! (and welcome)  <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@Brotherjohn</a> and I think River is one of ClaraPrime&#8217;s echoes, and this leaf connection is another link! [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>SatsumaJoe replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 10:25:30 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a> <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/mtgradwell/' rel="nofollow">@MTGradwell</a> She calls herself Souffle Girl near the start of this episode when attempting to make one the way her mum did and &#8216;this time I&#8217;ll get it right&#8217;.</p>
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				<title>MTGradwell replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 10:15:16 +0000</pubDate>

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<blockquote><p>I think (correct me if I’m wrong) the doctor explicitly CALLS her “souffle girl” to her face. It may be when he confronts her on the cliff edge outside the TARDIS control room, in JttCotT, but she [&hellip;]</p></blockquote>
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				<title>thommck replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a><br />
So the GI, when infecting his timeline, would have to make sure they didn&#8217;t stop the Doctor defeating them in the past. Otherwise the Doctor would have died, meaning he could have never gone to [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>WhoHar replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 03:52:49 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/lula/' rel="nofollow">@Lula</a> <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a> <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/shazzbot/' rel="nofollow">@shazzbot</a></p>
<p>Myself and <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/mtgradwell/' rel="nofollow">@MTGradwell</a> (hello, btw) had a detailed discussion on this over on the G blog. </p>
<p>His point was that the stories (as transmitted on tv) remain as they are (ie no change [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>ardaraith replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 17:57:39 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a> !  I think it would be amazing, and create a clean slate for the Doctor to move forward, his conscience healed.  And what a treat for the Doctor to have that chance to go back and rectify his [&hellip;]</p>
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				<title>OsakaHatter replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>

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<blockquote><p>&#8230;He could have “broken the promise” during his first generation.  This is equally as possible as him breaking the promise in any other generation after&#8230;</p>
<p>I’m just playing Devil’s advocate [&hellip;]</p></blockquote>
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				<title>ardaraith replied to the topic S33 (7) 14 – The Name of the Doctor in the forum The Eleventh Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 09:06:43 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/brotherjohn/' rel="nofollow">@brotherjohn</a> &#8211; yup, I think River is Clara, as well. See my previous posts: <a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/s33-7-14-the-name-of-the-doctor/#post-9609" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/s33-7-14-the-name-of-the-doctor/#post-9609</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&lt;a [&hellip;]</p>
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