The comments have been excellent, and I feel like there’s a collective attempt to come to terms with this episode! Which means it has some value?

I’m actually feeling so upset/angry I couldn’t speak yesterday. Thanks to everyone for eloquently expressing what I’m feeling! Even now I can’t really think. But a few people puzzled about the pointing…[Read more]

@thane16

I really, really would’ve liked the carol to have been used a little more.

Yes. It’s a great piece. Probably better for the Christmas episode though. Don’t give up hope yet.

@thane16

sorry meant to say this earlier. Copyright in Who… there were problems with Daleks in the sixties. Terry Nation wanted to sell them to the states, but maybe they weren’t commie enough.

Jonathon Nathan Turner was anxious to shed Nyssa because he had to pay royalties everytime she appeared. I suspect she was originally going to become an…[Read more]

@thane16 @juniperfish

The arc has been seeded with clues. Too many. We’re all over them and that’s what Russ wanted… but does that make for good art?

It’s like Line of Duty and morse code. The problem with the ‘in show solution’ and the obvious solution have hamstrung the narrative a bit.
As it happens there’s not enough information t…[Read more]

@juniperfish @thane16 – he looked in pain when Ruby left – but was he crying? I’m not sure there were tears.

I think somebody has said here that this Doctor hasn’t shown the kind of awe inspiring anger that some of the last Doctors have, there is an outside chance that a Doctor might be too  well adjusted – or alternatively, we’re just not used…[Read more]

@ps1l0v3y0u

The arc is VR. The VR is created by someone who knows The Doctor as well as they know themself…

Why does Ruby snow? The VR snows…

I really like this theory – which might lead to the Great Intelligence, as others have previously theorised, given the snow connection. Or alternatively to a Time Lord using a grand-scale version of The…[Read more]

@thane16 @whohar @blenkinsopthebrave

So are we agreed, the problem is the art not the arc?

Well, we don’t know what the arc is yet… but to quote the easter egg from Blink AGAIN… that (EoD) got away from him.

Or is it the new demographic and paymasters? I hate  the idea of The Unit spinoff. Sorry.

Justified criticism… death – death = life. We…[Read more]

@thane16

I wasn’t flashing my post grad creds, just pointing out that the EoD script as is would not have passed muster on my specific course.

I think that having an 8 ep season has meant that RTD may have had to cut things that would otherwise have improved the overall storyline. Maybe.

I presume the 8 eps was because Gatwa wasn’t available…[Read more]

@thane16

but is that our problem rather than the writer’s, I wonder…?

The writer’s. Definitely. Like @craig, I too have an MA in scriptwriting. If I’d submitted this ep for comment, it would have been returned with copious notes, one if which would have intimated that it was really a first draft.

@mudlark, @blenkinsopthebrave

I’ve previously sta…[Read more]

@thane16 indeed her comment’s appear contradictory at times on one hand there’s menacing intent then on the other hand she’ll appear pleased with the doctors actions or success. It was this behavior that that made me wonder earlier if she was a female incarnation of the master/Missy could it be that the female versions of the master are predi…[Read more]

@classicsrule1 @thane16 @cookgroom

Sutekh’s obsession with hoodie woman was odd. Makes you wonder if that was really Sutekh. What were all the other goddy names about? Is this a reflection of The Doctor himself… Sutekh was obsessed because The Doctor is obsessed and mortified by his own origins? It’s easier for him to believe they’re all dead ra…[Read more]

@ps1l0v3y0u. quit possibly we’ll see him actively looking out for his daughter/son, which he said he’s rather shied away from, but knew would exist at some point, because he knew Susan. RTD hasn’t told us/decided yet how much he knows. I think he thinks Jenny is dead. But this is one thing I really do like – the Time-whimey child, who’s own child…[Read more]

@thane16  Hello, its good to see you too. The leg is getting better everyday and like a toddler I am taking a few clumsy steps now but without a happy parent clapping and cheering me on although the mister does his best. There is a bit of Quasimodo in my gait but I am sure that will also improve.(I hope anyway) It has been an experience that has…[Read more]

@bunface @thane16

Daleks.

My first reaction on seeing Space Babies was these are Daleks waiting for education and a new chassis.

Then I riffed on the babies’ journey to a planet that doesn’t really want them. What if deal was done with a third party and they were diverted to a very different world.

But then if snot-doggo is a projection of Sut…[Read more]

@thane16 – I mean, think about it. Pond, River, Flood – names on the Matriarchal line.

@thane16  @ps1l0v3y0u

Et al

So… Daleks. Someone said that ages ago.

Wow – the Forum has been on fire with some super musings! (I’ve been immured in Exam Boards).

@thane16

If the Tardis was infected when the Doctor saved baby Ruby from the goblin dinner then do we account for his tears, at other times, because part of him, perhaps due to his connection with the Tardis, is aware that something is deeply w…

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Interesting stuff emerging here.

@thane16

the Shepherd tone thing was somewhat perverse… how I would love a krautrock/derbyshire mash up tho…

REG would seem to be there… he planted himself in the Doctor’s time stream… what better move than create an alternate Doctor? You know who I’m talking about. Fits with virtual reality.

Of course some…[Read more]

@magdiragdag, Yes! as @thane16 says…well spotted! They specifically focus on the clock, so it must be deliberate. But to what end?

Back in “Pyramids of Mars” the Tom Baker Doctor defeats Sutekh with the 2 minute gap for radio waves to travel from Earth to Mars. Could it be pointing to something similar? And yet, at this point in the episode,…[Read more]

@thane16

Will a recorder do? You mean, play an A?

Intrigued. But slightly worried that you’re actually the Trickster and that if I do this I’ll somehow end up stuck in a time window being followed (at a 73 yard distance) by rats with several pairs of red eyes…