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				<title>Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Death in Heaven in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 16:27:52 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/jimthefish/' rel="nofollow">@JimTheFish</a> &#8211; I&#8217;ve been participating. It&#8217;s depressing. 🙁</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@Beancounter</a> &#8211; a sense of duty overriding Cyber Conversion is as much a part of the mythology of the show as &#8216;Cybermen have a severe allergy to gold&#8217;. 😉 </p>
<p>Most recently, the Cyberised Yvonne Hartmann in Doomsday &#8216;did her duty for Queen and Country&#8217; by holding off other Cybermen while&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-39933"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/death-in-heaven/page/3/#post-35149" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>macphisto96 replied to the topic Death in Heaven in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:28:41 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a> Danny was sustained by his promise as a soldier.  A true soldier was not going to just be subjugated by the Cyber collective.  The obey orders, but orders that pertain to the vows they&#8217;ve made as a soldier.  That&#8217;s why Danny was horrified by killing the child.  It was not purposeful, but it betrayed his promise.  That&#8217;s where the Doct&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-39925"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/death-in-heaven/page/3/#post-35145" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Miapatrick replied to the topic Death in Heaven in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:16:59 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/the9thdoctor/' rel="nofollow">@The9thDoctor</a>&#8211; Susan&#8217;s grandmother, I dearly hope!</p>
<p>but yes, there was a lot of stuff straightened out. And Susan is now, officially stated to be his granddaughter.</p>
<p>I like your point three as well.  I&#8217;ve loved the last few seasons, but it would be nice to have a little less earth. Hopefully, if he finds Gallifrey, we&#8217;ll see a little more than&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-39923"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/death-in-heaven/page/3/#post-35143" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Death in Heaven in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:58:56 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/the9thdoctor/' rel="nofollow">@The9thDoctor</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Four wives:<br />
&#8211; Queen Elizabeth (Dead)<br />
&#8211; River Song (Dead?)<br />
&#8211; Susan’s mother. (?)<br />
&#8211; Unknown. (?)</p></blockquote>
<p>Marilyn Monroe.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Both love or a sense of duty require emotion…which Danny supposedly no long had…</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes. It is almost as if the strength of human will saw him through, just as it did with Dalekised Oswin. And it is not a new W&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-39921"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/death-in-heaven/page/3/#post-35142" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Death in Heaven in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 12:48:44 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The “love conquers all” theme has been overdone.</p></blockquote>
<p>Love didn&#8217;t conquer all, Danny&#8217;s sense of duty did (emphasised with the Brigadier coda).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as if the story was show on Remembrance Weekend.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Master’s bracelet can call someone back from the afterlife?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing you missed the fact that the afterlife was a great big con.</p>
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				<title>Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Dark Water in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 22:09:51 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a></p>
<blockquote><p>He’s a Time Lord, why not just go back in time and kill Doctor Who’s parents</p></blockquote>
<p>Doctor Who? </p>
<p>Anyway, the answer is that The Time Lady Formerly Known As The Master doesn&#8217;t want to kill the Doctor. He always would have been rather disappointed if he&#8217;d actually succeeded in killing the Doctor (he said as much in Survival). She wants to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-39370"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/dark-water/page/4/#post-34682" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Dark Water in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 00:39:11 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I beleive physiologist would regard this statement as evidence of a co-dependent relationship. <img src="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" /></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure a physiologist would say &#8220;Oh God! Mad girl! Where&#8217;s a psychologist?&#8221;</p>
<p>And the psychologist would say &#8220;Duuuude. Unconditional love! Didn&#8217;t think anyone did that any more. He must be an alien.&#8221;</p>
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				<title>Spider replied to the topic On The Sofa (5) in the forum General</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a>, yes you are right in that the people Missy meets are random and not all the people who die on DW show up there &#8211; however, this is only what we have been allowed to see, it may be there is far more going on and we just haven&#8217;t seen it on screen. In the Caretaker episode Seb does reference that they have &#8216;had a few in&#8217; from the stovax&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-38953"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/on-the-sofa-5/page/16/#post-34375" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Spider replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Doctor is at <strong>least</strong> 2000 years old. Because he was ~1000 years old (ish &#8211; possibly younger, I think 904 was said in Voyage Of The Damned) when 10 regenerated into 11. And 11 spent at least 1000? years on trenzalore, plus there was at least 200 years of him time travelling about when Amy and Rory weren&#8217;t traveling with him. Plus probably lots m&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-38906"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/in-the-forest-of-the-night/page/4/#post-34358" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>BadWulf replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:03:23 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a> Well, I don’t have time to respond to everyone, but I think you all understand that primates are generally considered “lower life forms”, relative to humans, and that’s where the bashing comes in. But you can view things from a certain perspective to fit your own internal narrative…so we are not going to agree.</p>
<p>Also, that was not t&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:56:55 +0000</pubDate>

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<blockquote><p>You don’t need to be a theologian to understand what’s being implied</p></blockquote>
<p>It implies a) that the Doctor is as old as God and b) that he&#8217;s been Born Again. </p>
<p>Try again. We&#8217;ve had Hot Button 1: &#8216;I don&#8217;t like any of the characters&#8217; with Hot Button 2: &#8216;the show is sexist&#8217;, now we&#8217;re onto Hot Button 3: &#8216;religion&#8217;. </p>
<p>I think &#8216;gay agenda&#8217; sho&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-38896"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/in-the-forest-of-the-night/page/4/#post-34350" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:48:20 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a> who can&#8217;t.</p>
<blockquote><p>primates are generally considered “lower life forms”</p></blockquote>
<p>You do realise that all humans &#8211; ALL humans &#8211; are primates, right? Including you (assuming your are human and not a NotVeryCleverbot).</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>PS</p>
<p>Apropos of nothing, Cleverbot once accused me of being the antichrist.</p>
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				<title>Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:09:43 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@Beancounter</a></p>
<blockquote><p>she really seems to have no regard for the Doctor beyond getting a free ride through time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, all that getting herself split into hundreds of Claricles and telling him to save himself while she stays with the kids is so selfish. </p>
<blockquote><p>saying anything negative about the show is considered an act of war,</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed it is. We have the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-38882"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/in-the-forest-of-the-night/page/4/#post-34338" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>BadWulf replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:17:35 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a> To me that statement is rather direct and obvious man bashing. Apes are generally considered less intelligent than humans and brutish. Therefore comparing men to apes is an intentional insult pretending to be a good natured jab. Clearly you disagree, so please explain why.</p></blockquote>
<p>All men *are* apes, it is an indisputable fact.</p>
<p>Given that&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-38875"><a href="http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/in-the-forest-of-the-night/page/4/#post-34334" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>BadWulf replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:10:19 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a> It was just an unintentional typo, hardly a crime.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed &#8211; I was simply drawing your attention to it, because it was making it tricky to actually respond to you, as the autolinks were not working.</p>
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				<title>Miapatrick replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:55:40 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a>, in fact, it seems you don&#8217;t. The line is: people are apes. Men are monkeys, spoken by a woman who&#8217;s own wife refers to as a lizard. People being apes, as <a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/badwulf/' rel="nofollow">@Badwulf</a> points out, is accurate. Men being monkeys is affectionate.</p>
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				<title>BadWulf replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night in the forum The Twelfth Doctor</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/members/beancounter/' rel="nofollow">@beancounter</a> And then there is the subtle man-bashing. Remember the first episode of the season? “All men are apes”</p></blockquote>
<p>How is the statement in quotes incorrect? I see no man-bashing, subtle or otherwise.</p>
<p>Also, your username is spelt incorrectly and doesn&#8217;t match your profile name.</p>
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