• tardigrade replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @supernumerary

    That makes sense. Still good of the ABC to get it up as soon as they can. I think at one point they were getting them up before the UK showing and were probably getting clobbered by sneaky international downloads. Better for everyone it’s out right after the UK showing from a spoiler perspective too.

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    Oops- replied on the wrong thread, so will repeat here for those not reading the spoilers thread:

    @puroandson

    We don’t see Doctor who until the next night in Brisbane its not shown on Saturday night and also on Sunday its shown at early time of 7.30 because its family viewing.

    I noticed last week that the episode was available on iview (ABC c…[Read more]

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  • tardigrade replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @starla

    Ooh, Missy’s daughter… hmm, I like where you went with that. I also like your theory that if Ashildr was exposed to the time vortex and untempered schism she could potentially be part TL.

    If she were already part-TL somehow, then it might actually take exposure to the Untempered Schism for her TL side to be expressed (her expanded mem…[Read more]

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    @starla

    Little girl… okay, Ashildr isn’t exactly little, but she’s a young girl. No idea at all how she could be part time lord (she’s certainly not!)

    “Little girl” is a stretch, although it is Missy speaking, with her low opinion of humans, so rating her above “puppy” might be a compliment. If Ashildr’s been on Gallifrey for some time, exposed…[Read more]

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  • tardigrade replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    Just noticed this little exchange in The Magician’s Apprentice back at the start of the series, with Missy holding the Doctor’s confession dial:

    Clara: Since when do you care about the Doctor?
    Missy: Since always. Since the Cloister Wars. Since the night he stole the moon and the President’s wife. Since he was a little girl. One of those was a l…[Read more]

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    @arbutus

    You make a strong case here for the Doctor remembering more than I’d given credence to. I realise now I’d rather discounted his talking about remembering in those quotes, thinking it referred to remembering the Grimm story about the bird, but reading it in black and white it does definitely seem he is remembering prior iterations…[Read more]

  • tardigrade replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    Regardless of whether the Doctor ultimately remembers the details, it’s powerful to watch as an external observer. That he was prepared to spend a “second of eternity” suffering over and over, rather than give into his fears, speaks to the Doctor’s strength of character. It’s the first iteration, where the enormity of what he’s committing himself…[Read more]

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    @puroandson

    If the Doctor had been forced to play out the same events again and again, I can certainly seeing him getting ground down and broken over time to the point of nothing of his original self being present, but I just can’t reconcile that with the total reset premise.

    In each iteration the Doctor believes that his timezone hasn’t shi…[Read more]

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    @starla

    This episode is just so well constructed: visually, musically, the script… it is simply spot on!

    Agreed completely. Much as we’ve been picking apart story points and theorising, the episode is not just interesting from where the story is going, but it’s also beautifully constructed from an aesthetic standpoint and well acted in what is vi…[Read more]

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    @ichabod

    He breaks through the diamond wall and emerges unaged, unmarked and unbloodied, except of course mentally scourged to death and beyond

    Whether the objective passage of time was billions of years or much shorter doesn’t change that, since he was “reset” to his original state and experienced less than a day before getting through the wall.…[Read more]

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    @mersey

    Theu knew him well but not intimately. They should know that Doctor never gives up.

    Oh- I think they were counting on that. A major point of the dial was to keep him occupied for geological ages, and by giving him something to rail against, they could guarantee that. I don’t think he “beat” the confession dial- he simply did exactly what…[Read more]

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    @carrieanne

    The doctor put the sonics on when he got to the wall and he scanned it.  It was the only time we saw him use them, which I thought was weird since he could maybe have used them for something else?

    Whoever set up the Doctor’s “personal torture chamber” knew him intimately. So presumably knew enough to ensure that key elements,…[Read more]

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