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16 November 2014 at 02:32 #35654
He has blood on his hands, he has made decisions that are in the scheme of gray morality, but does that not make him a good man? When I mentioned romance it was in regard to his relationship to he and Clara. I felt she was originally swept up with 11, but put off by 12’s apperance. Over the course of their relationship they have had sweet moments and moments of strife, just like any friends or couple. My complaint is that whenever she was asked if the Doctor was to return to help or was a good man, she was indecisive. That character’s opinion specifically stood up for and championed 11. Can anyone argue that she has shown favorites between how she has dealt with 11 and 12? Why does she take issue with 12 lying and not 11? I think it’s because she has a courtship relationship with 11 and a more serious more developed relationship with 12. Yes, in the end she did say how highly she viewed the Doctor, but one episode would vary from the next. I took it personally as a fan how 12 would look wounded or confused that he said something to offend her and how hard she was on him, compared to her realtionship with 11. I think Clara loves the travel, loves the excitement, but would prefer to do so with 11. I think she is a 20 something that is shallow because when 11 looks the way he does and is smitten with her she embraces it, faults and all. With 12 it’s a different relationship. It’s based on more of a solid realtionship. Faults and all. Honestly, what was so interesting about Danny Pink in the begining to her, other then he was a handsome school teacher? Now, I know conflict makes for great character drama, I just again wanted to state I took offense to her negative view at times of theDoctor. I viewed him as a madman with a blue box, but still a good man. A flawed man,but still a good man. Good being the abscence of evil. Is he a good man? Yes. Even if he doesn’t think so. And I think any companion would say yes. Even Turlough and he often tried to kill him.
16 November 2014 at 00:07 #356415 sacrificed himself to save Perri and 9 saved Rose. To me he isn’t perfect for sure. She isn’t perfect but everything he did to help save the world a thousand times would make you a good person.
16 November 2014 at 00:00 #35640I view the Doctor as a good man for all the times he has saved the universe. He has sacrificed his own life multiple times to save his companions. I agree that Clara has the most realistic relationship with 12 that probably has ever been portrayed in a Doctor companion relationship but that doesn’t mean I have to like or support that character.
15 November 2014 at 23:11 #35633To paraphrase from Dark Water he says what did I do to make you think so little of me that your betrayal would mean I would ever give up on you? So she has done all this but doesn’t trust him to help her. I think you all have a way more romantic view of their relationship.
15 November 2014 at 17:46 #35615I like the resolution of Deep Breath but then in Kill the Moon and Into the Dalek she has zero confidence in the Doctor or acts like she doesn’t know him Yes, she does finally admit what he means to her in the season finale, but the whole season is a back and forth. And really if 11 asked about his worth and reputation she would say yes he is a good man. She pretty much does that when she asks the crack in the wall to Galifrey to help 11. She wasn’t conflicted then and it’s the same person. To me that is human but flawed which is why I take offense. I feel like she is bad mouthing a good friend while getting to travel with him and constantly put him down. Which of course makes for good drama.
15 November 2014 at 03:33 #35574I love the complex relationship and arguments but I never feel like she believes in him the way we all do as a character. I felt like Clara has scorned him and made him feel alien. He has this need to please her in some way is maybe why Missy put them together. “Do as you are told!”
15 November 2014 at 02:57 #35571He was a good man. He is still a good man, if asked for a minute about Matt Smith’s Doctor being a good man she would say yes. I feel like she is cruel to him. Not understanding of what he has been through even though she knows what has happened.
15 November 2014 at 02:20 #35570Kill the Moon it was asked if he was coming back and she said she dint know or later just said he wasn’t. There were other times when the question was brought up about the Doctor, I think it was also in the Daleks episode integrity or concern for others well being. She would always sat she doesn’t know or flat out dismissal.
15 November 2014 at 01:12 #35568I dislike every time Clara is asked about the integrity of the Doctor and she always shrugs and says she doesn’t know. I have never seen a companion have such a low opinion of the Doctor. And the only change was really the appearance. I thought they were over the hump and then it just goes back to her bad mouthing him.
14 November 2014 at 16:03 #35533My favorites this season was Deep Breath, Listen and Orient Express. I think Capaldi is excellent. I think the Pink and Clara relationship didn’t have to be so toxic to the Doctor companion relationship. I never felt the relationship with Matt Smith’s Doctor was convincing, now with Peter Capaldi she comes across as shallow. I think the show will be much better without her. I have watched since Tom Baker. I used to live overseas in London and Aberdeen so the mass fandom is really cool to witness after being a fan for so long.
14 November 2014 at 06:06 #35522I don’t know if this has been discussed, but think Santa may undo some of the wrongs that happened. Surely it can’t end on such a downer this season.
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