Hi @purofilion.

Honestly I’m not sure what I’m suggesting.  🙂 Just found the pattern of words intriguing.

Your take on them is even better than I was thinking, which is that Osgood, who said “I’m a fan” first,  might be hinting that SHE is really the enemy to watch out for.

That would certainly be a twist!

I was also taking it back to the m…[Read more]

“I’m a big fan”.

Or “fander”, old Norse “fjandi”.

Meaning “enemy” or “devil”. English word “fiend”.

The fiend inside the friend.

Devil/Enemy

As opposed to God/Friend = “Oswin”

The prettier sister.

Hello All! Very late to the party and lots of catching up to do.  Here’s a few quick first thoughts:

Amazing Grace: maybe he was just thinking about his TV movie companion. Ok, we’ll forget that one!

Doctor as Zygon – anti: “Doctor Disco” is his arranged code with Clara so she’ll know it’s really him.  Likewise when she doesn’t recognize it he k…[Read more]

@arbutus maybe… when he still had a beard.

@lisa  Could it be Simon – ale – cocktail – ‘BREW’-ski ??

ROTFL!  Love it.  You gave me my best laugh of the day.  Also it’s kinda fun to be the target of the bonkers theory for a change. 🙂

@ichabod I’m pretty sure you’re right — I think that if he knew the details of Clara’s fate, he’d be spending some time trying to work out ways to avoid i…

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@whisht

ah @brewski I think the idea that death releases energy (in all episodes so far) and opens up dimensions etc is definitely a way to bring back Gallifrey.

Its almost not bonkers!

Lol… well you may be right!  We’ll have to do a lot better than that if we want to be more insane that what’s really happening.

I was going more for the…[Read more]

Regarding the use of the word “cocktail” I agree that it could have easily be in limited use long before it made it into print.

In fact, I would love to see a classic old historical episode of Who wherein the Doctor sets out to solve the mystery of the origin of the word.

He discovers that it happened like this:

There was a tavern in a sma…[Read more]

Mentioning Capt. Jack makes me wonder how he’ll react when he sees the Doctor’s new face.

Maybe we’ll find out! And learn more about the Frobisher connection.

@ichabod hopefully I didn’t imply that Clara’s sacrificing herself to save Galifrey could happen if the Doctor had the slightest inking that she was going to do it.  He would certainly stop her.

I agree that he is apprehensive about her fate, but I don’t think he knows what it is yet.   It’s another “remembering in the wrong order” kind of f…[Read more]

@all

Have a lot of catching up to do before I weigh in on this episode,  but wanted to toss out one scary bonkers idea first:

The amulet opens a bridge to other dimensions, but someone has to die for it to work.

What if another dimension it opens to is where Galifrey is?

And what if Clara sacrifices herself to get to it?!

@arbutus “there is only so much we can accept” when we don’t WANT to. (or DO want to)

Which was where I started out, but we went for quite a scenic walk after that.  🙂

The fact is, sophisticated baby poetry SHOULD be hard to accept.  But dammit, it was done so beautifully I’m totally buying into it.  My own tolerance for believable is quite variable.

@pedant

Hmmm…

(That is the sound of Brewski eating his words. )

@bluesqueakpip

I like that! It’s kinda like when a good piece of abstract art “feels” more real than a high res photograph.

The photo captures the bare reality. The art captures the feeling it evokes.

@pedant I agree entirely.  Particularly in that an excellent ensemble makes such a difference. One can get away with depicting a dry and bland scientist.  Not so much a dry and bland poet.  🙂

@winston For sure not knowing is half the fun! It’s what gives birth to such bonkers theories.  “Always leave them wanting more. ”  And more to the poin…[Read more]

Ok, so I found the episode entertaining, but it got me to thinking about something.  Allow me to play Devil’s Advocate a moment.   (Note: the following is NOT actually my opinion):

“My biggest problem with the episode is where the Doctor is ‘translating’ the baby.  I mean, come on!  How plausible is that?  Are we accept that there is sufficient mo…

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@jimmythetulip

If Clara regenerates into Missy — well I think the only thing I will be able to say is “wow”.

(And possibly “omg don’t soil yourself”)

@purofilion

I think Lunn is not killed because he has not yet seen the coordinates and so can’t chant them endlessly after he’s ghostified.

He’s of no use to them, therefore.

@denvaldron

From a literary criticism point of view I tend to agree with your analysis. Of course we all know that this (or any) show isn’t going to be perfect, especially given how much material they have to crank out in such a short time. Mind you, I’m not meaning that to make excuses.

Looking backwards, I’m not sure if the Master/Missy eve…

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@ichabod

Oyg!  You are so smart!  Sure, why not?  He knows, as we all do, that even if Skaro melts down completely into sewer sludge, Davros won’t die, so — makes him an involuntary bird-dog?

Thanks! :p  I have been very successful at outsmarting myself.   But it WOULD be a pretty awesome slap in the prosthetics for Davros!

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I certainly thought the whole episode gave off a Curse of Fatal Death vibe!

I wonder how much was intentional.  Either way I love it.

Cool theory! I personally don’t think that Asylum!Clara is Original!Clara, but I’m interested in the…

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