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jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
Here is my quibble of the episode, because I think on this forum there should always be room for criticism.
I am really curious how someone who is not that into Doctor Who would interpret what happened to Clara in the context of how other stories are presented in TV or movies. When I try and step back and just watch Face the Raven without prior…[Read more]
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jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
@ichabod: The Doctor does believe in at least one concept of a soul as shown in a Moffat-written episode The Bells of Saint John, an episode featuring the character of Clara Oswald:
DOCTOR: This whole world is swimming in wifi. We’re living in a wifi soup. Suppose something got inside it. Suppose there was something living in the wifi, harvesting…
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
Let us just watch the episode with fresh eyes. What are we seeing with how the quantum shade / chronolock are being presented?
When the Chronolock Guy was taken by the Raven, the Doctor said:
The Doctor: It’s called a Quantum Shade. It’s kind of a spirit. Once it’s bound to a victim, you could flee across all of time and all of the universe, it…
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
@pedant: I think Face the Raven bluntly states the character Clara Oswald is worse than dead; instead, she’s in a form of hell.
Just looking at the episode, the special effects show the quantum shade going into the victim, then leaving the mouth as black smoke that goes back to being the raven in the cage. It is explicitly said the quantum shade…[Read more]
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
@ichabod: Here’s an analogy that Clara as a teacher might have been aware of. And this relates to the Arthurian legends of the Fisher King that we didn’t quite get this season.
In Chretien de Troyes sadly unfinished Perceval, the Story of the Grail, there are multiple depictions of how young Perceval causes disaster by robotically following the…[Read more]
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
The more I think about the death of Clara, the better I like it. Clara has tremendous emotional understanding of the Doctor. But her intellectual understanding of what he is trying to communicate is near zero, as shown by her anger at him in Kill the Moon.
The Doctor was never telling her to lie all the time for tactical advantage. That in…[Read more]
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
Rigsy: The Doctor would never let you do this.
Clara: Doctor 102 – never tell anyone your actual plan. He’ll have a tantrum when he finds out. And then, when we confront Ashildr, she’ll want to take the chronolock off just to shut him up.
Clara died for her ignorance and stupidity. After all this time, she cannot honestly communicate with the…[Read more]
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jphamlore replied to the topic Spoilers (2)
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
@ichabod: That’s why as i have said a tarot card that applies to the Doctor is The Devil:
http://www.tarotlore.com/tarot-cards/the-devil/
The Doctor is going to give everyone what they ask for, like he always does when he truly wants to punish someone.
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
My bonkers speculation seems to be reinforced by what I have seen in Face the Raven. I was asked a few days ago why my theory some Gallifreyans, the children, would be reborn as ordinary humans. I now have my answer.
The Gallifreyan children are the innocents and the Doctor knows their exact number from The Day of the Doctor. The Moment made him…[Read more]
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
@ichabod: The Doctor does have someone to take his revenge on, the only ones who know how to make a lock that fits his Tardis key and the only ones who know about a confession dial. He’s going to take it out on the Time Lords, but unlike the Time War, he’s going to take account of the exact number of children on Gallifrey to save.
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10 years, 8 months ago - View
jphamlore replied to the topic Face The Raven
For those who are asking for more of Clara’s story, what if it is in plain sight within Face the Raven and earlier Moffat (co)-written episodes?
Note that the quantum shade demands souls. From the visual effects associated with the exit of a black smoke to turn back into a raven, I conjecture the quantum shade extracts souls, captures souls. T…[Read more]
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