• lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Morpho

    So my take is that Missy was sent to Earth on a mission.  She had that big Matrix ball

    thing which implies to me she had backing of TL’s with conditions.  The confession dial

    fell in to her lap so to speak? Then she  probably modified it  or Rasillon did and set up the

    trap street.  She is after all unhinged so this makes sense.…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Bluesqueakpip

    Yes I can see that too about the energy bolts.  Didn’t  Simm/Master prematurely age the Doctor in

    Sound of the Drums.

    and

    @Tardigrade

    It seems to me Missy gets something out of this more than just a tortured  Doctor.  She wouldn’t

    just hand the Dial over without compensation.  Her new regeneration was part of some other ‘…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @tardigrade

    Don’t forget that the coordinates Missy gave the Doctor were correct in space. Just not in time.

    She didn’t lie to the Doctor about where Galifrey was except for timeframe. So how did she know?

    To me this implies collusion with the TL’s and Rassilon too.

     

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    I’ve been wondering if Rassilon will come to Earth and start meddling around like

    Missy does?   I think it was a real mistake for the Doctor to let him leave.

    Even surprising.

     

    BTW   I don’t see why hinting that the Doctor is part human by SM is so troubling.

    I personally feel having that connection of a  hybrid  between 2 planets is a terri…[Read more]

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  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Mirime

    The Zygon Osgoods were a little bit different for me.  I saw them as a total blending

    if you will of the Human Osgood.   The Doctor is the Doctor and can’t assimilate Clara.

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Whisht

     

    I like your idea about the Tardis settings  very much!!  I  thought maybe

    Clara chose that place for the Doctor since he had spent time previously

    with his ‘Earth’ family in it  so therefore it might give to him some subliminal

    comfort?   Your take of morphing into a relatable concept is terrific!

     

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Morpho

    Exactly.   This was collusion between Missy and Rassilon!  I’m optimistic

    that  story arc  continues.   All the more reason to delete  his feelings

    about Clara since that seemed to be rolling up into a liability I imagine in his view?

    I understand that now.    1 reason why we keep seeing a chess game at least

    once each season. To s…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Morpho

    Oh yes!  Those are great remarks  M.

     

    He had to deal at some point  with the extreme emotions, The aches and

    pains from the moods and thoughts of Clara ‘always in his head’. So in the

    end he deleted  all that.   Chose his TL nature.    He has had to make that

    choice before.  With Rose and with the nurse in ‘Family of Blood’.

    it’s…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    1 more thought.  I think the Doctor also knew he had to bring Clara back to heal/fix himself.

    What if he  thought Galifrey was on the other side of the crystal wall? Not the Tardis? He

    seemed to suggest that when he spoke to Rassilon?  Maybe? Not totally sure. But that implies

    to me that he knew even when inside the Dial trap that if he got o…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Morpho                 @avaris             @Ichabod                     @ozitenor

     

    Ok so this is my bonkers thinking..    I think this reinforces the notion that the Doctor

    might have a bit of Human in his DNA?    Because just like in the episode when Amy

    uses the shock box to revive the 11th ( in Power of 3?)  I think that was working on…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    Conspiracy theory after watching HB tonight

    The Doctor left the sonic glasses on the console on purpose knowing Clara

    would watch on the screen,  He also left the mind wiper there. He set it up?

    He figured out that he had to part from Clara.   So was he making it easier for

    her?  Seems to me that he really didn’t loose a lot of his memor…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    So now the Doctor is again Lord President.  Also President of Earth.   Lots of commuting !

     

    Anyway,  already curious about the next season and what other unfinished

    business from this season may be continued.  Maybe Missy’s very clever idea?

    I cant  see  many clues to any of that  but I am wondering  where SM  wants to

    go now with his  Do…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    I do hope there will be a new Rassilon story sooner or later.   More Missy too please.

    As for Clara,  she  will be back at the very least when its time for 12’s regeneration.

     

    In the meantime there is a book coming out soon about Ashidr/Me’s travels and

    I bet Clara is in many of the chapters. Also, Clara was an English teacher and  l…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @avaris

    Like your lists

    @pedant

    well done Clara theory

    So this was mostly to tie up the Clara story arc .   I was actually hoping for more ties to some

    of the other mythologies.  So I was a bit underwhelmed  because I had been hopeful for that.

    But I did enjoy this. It was a better departure for Clara than immediate death by raven.  I was…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    Anxious to see the finale!!!   Particularly the scenes with the Doctor and Me.  Well,

    and all the rest too.   I wonder if just maybe there is a small chance that Me was

    going by the pseudonym Penelope Gates during her life in the Victorian era?

    (A hint from the novelizations)

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