• thane16 replied to the topic General Music thread 3

    @pedant

    On Heaven 17 Lookee! It’s Justin Beiber time travelling with eyeliner.

    Well, no, not really, as that’s offensive to musicians.

    @whisht

    Great doco!  @Cathannabel I think I posted a comment on the Sofa or Pub about Human League/Wikipedia/Bowie etc. But I could have imagined posting it (that happens a bit).

    The thing with this Forum,…[Read more]

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @Lisa Thanks so much for that. For a woman whose days are devoted to a toddler and massive looney-tunes dog, I’ve done a LOT of reading. So it’s nice to know I am finally approaching a sincere understanding.

    There’s more to say, but right now I’m playing Trains 🙂

    X

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    This issue has caused serious tensions and rifts in my own family, and maybe for that reason, I feel the need to put my soapbox away and at least try to understand and respect the Leave argument, and to find points of agreement. That’s hard within my family at the moment, because – well, families. So I’m very appreciative of the explanations given…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa

    Again, a blase piece that dwells on the text of the GFA but has zero understanding of how that actually affects people on the ground on both sides of a hard border. It’s more useful, I think, to heed the warnings of former NI secretaries on both sides of the political equation, contemporary PMs who actually had to deal with the (boak)…[Read more]

  • @lisa

    We can’t. The WTO has already ruled it out.

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    OK, I’ve been deliberately staying the hell away from Brexit (one of the advantages of no longer being a hack is that I don’t have to engage with this stuff every day).

    @craig

    That’s a pretty fair assessment and I pretty much stand with you on this. (Although I am one of those annoying gits who also has Irish citizenship so will avoid most of…[Read more]

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    Thanks @lisa for your comments. No big response from me just now. I’m mulljng it all over though.

    @craig Basically everything you said I agree with. (Except Scottish Independence. If that happens I’ll never see anything but a Tory majority again in my lifetime. Please think it through!) But it’s really refreshing and kind of nice to get an…[Read more]

  • Craig replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa

    The Conservatives don’t want the European Court of Human Rights to have any rule over the UK – because they want to “take back control”. So basically, they don’t want us to have any human rights. 🙂

    The EU is not insisting on a hard border – it is pointing out that you can’t have Northern Ireland and Ireland without a hard border, if one…[Read more]

  • Craig replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    Hi @Lisa

    The Scottish Government funds free University out of its own budget. So it will probably continue.

    There is a mixed reaction to Brexit within the Scottish fishing industry. At first they hated the fact that, for example, the Spanish could come and fish in Scottish waters. So they voted for Brexit. Now that it looks like, even after…[Read more]

  • Craig replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa @idiotsavon @bluesqueakpip @pedant @thane16 and others

    I might get myself in trouble now. As I’m having a quiet day I thought I would join in with my thoughts on Brexit – I will try to keep it brief (so possibly I might seem facile, but hopefully not).

    I am in an interesting position as I think the people of Scotland would be better off…[Read more]

  • thane16 replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @idiotsavon @lisa @pedant

    I have learned so much about Brexit and Leave (and Remain) since coming to this Forum for myself. I never was much into politics but I am glad I am becoming more interested by the day. As @bluesqueakpip suggested Politics and Brexit is very difficult -as an argument -to take and there is angst because of it (thank you…[Read more]

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa I think we’ve misunderstood each other. I invented Fictional California precisely in order to point out that it is, to borrow your term, a false equivalency. I did this because I thought you were the one equating California with the UK. So my apologies for that.

    Anyway, no matter. We can both agree that it’s truly great what you’re doing in…[Read more]

  • thane16 replied to the topic Arachnids In The UK

    @tardigrade

    you can see why the Doctor might come across as lesbian- relatively short hair, androgynous clothing

    Big tick there.   Mum now has short hair;  wears dad’s T-shirts and his 3/4 long trackie-dacks.  In America or the UK you might not know those. In Australia it’s tracksuits in stretch fabric.

    I apologise for such a long post. I was tr…[Read more]

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa I really admire the fact that you’re actively campaigning for what you believe in, and Trump genuinely scares me, so hats off to you.

    I agree with @janetteb that there are corrupt individuals at all levels of government, as well as some truly noble people who reach the upper echelons. However, I also agree with you in principle that the…[Read more]

  • geoffers replied to the topic Arachnids In The UK

    @craig – indeed they have, and aren’t we glad? 😀  i confess, i’ve only been able to watch a few eps before tom baker’s run, precisely because the production values and special effects were so, so terribly low. i think story synopses are the way to go for me, for the first three incarnations. [and is that clip from an 80’s “update,” like some of…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa the corruption in our local government was happening over a ten year period during which members of the government were aware of it but unable to act due to a lack of proof. In the end the individuals responsible were fired at great cost to the council because there were unable to get sufficient proof of corruption despite it being widely…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa I disagree with you that larger government = greater corruption. Yes it does but corruption happens at all levels of government. We had years of very corrupt local government. We have had good federal governments. True they made compramises and did not achieve all that they aspired to and there are a fair share of “bad eggs”, even within the…[Read more]

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa

    OK. Back for Part Two!

    You make the point that UK influence will be diminished due to Brexit. I agree, and I believe that’s a very good reason not to leave.

    I agree with you that the world is “under the influence of capitol markets, trade and corporations.” I’m not sure I agree that this influence “was the only thing that kept the world…[Read more]

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa Apologies, I’m a linear, point-by-point kind of person. The point I was addressing was the one about the Commission. I don’t know whether you have any response to anything I said on that particular point?

    – How much influence did the UK have with its vote in the EU?
    I’m not sure how I can answer that question. There has never been one…[Read more]

  • idiotsavon replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @lisa @pedant @miapatrick and everyone else

    I hope you don’t mind me chucking in my tuppence. I don’t pretend to be massively well-informed compared with others on this forum, and am happy to be schooled (preferably kindly.)

    Regarding the question of the Commission vs Parliament and democratic accountability.

    This article is from a few years…[Read more]

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