• tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @ozitenor

    4. How does Clara know to chameleon the ClaraTardis into that particular diner? She wasn’t there with Amy and Rory and River was she? Even if we assume a Claricle was there to save the Doctor once upon a time, that is not this Clara, with this Clara’s memories. How did she know to choose that tardis disguise? … perhaps more impor…

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    @puroandson

    The Doctor stole his Tardis on a whimsy (or because he was plain scared ) and couldn’t drive the jolly thing.

    Clara/Me are in a stolen tardis and the last we saw Me, she had the manual out trying to work out how to operate it, so I can’t give you that one 🙂

    Though yes- she’s done considerable good- she has been emulating the D…[Read more]

  • tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    I was just thinking about Clara/Me’s tardis being stuck as a diner. I’m suspicious that’s because the tardis’ consciousness likes it that way, rather than some dodgy chameleon circuit malarkey. Me is trying to troubleshoot the problem by reading the service manual. Given her memory issues, I would have thought it unlikely she’d have learnt to read…[Read more]

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    @arbutus

    Actually, I think in some ways that it is Clara who is now more “adult” than the Doctor. It wasn’t Clara that threatened all of time and space etc. etc. to save her own life. That was the Doctor. Clara has grown up, she is ready for Time Lordish responsibilities now.

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    @puroandson

    When Donna was ‘wiped’ it was painless but for the Doctor, not at all and that could be, as Son was suggesting, because it’s not entirely now compatible with TLs?

    I don’t think we saw Donna wiped and it was using a different process anyway (telepathic). I’m imagining that if you did create a device that could erase memories and i…[Read more]

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  • tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @nerys

    I have a more mundane question. On second viewing tonight, I see that Clara hands the sonic sunglasses back to the Doctor, who then slides them into his jacket pocket. As far as I can tell, that’s the last we see of them. Then, after he boards the TARDIS, he creates a sonic screwdriver. I guess I assumed the glasses would have to be d…

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  • tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    OK, time for a little wild speculation…

    I mentioned previously that the lifetime of the universe appears to have shrunk from 100 trillion years (S3 Utopia) to more like 20 billion. Is it possible that the hybrid prophecy has actually been fulfilled? The actions of the Doctor / Clara may actually have “fractured” time and the best the universe…[Read more]

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    @morpho

    The General’s regeneration seemed pretty toned down. We may have come in at the tail end, but there were no signs of damage. New regeneration style, or perhaps on Gallifrey these things can be tempered somewhat?

    Regenerations might go more smoothly on Gallifrey- the environment does appear to have some impact? It does seem though that t…[Read more]

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    @bluesqueakpip

    Interesting that you could view this as a comedy…

    The problem I have is the lack of growth in this ending- the Doctor is left with memory loss and it’s unclear whether he’s really learnt much- he’s done something grossly irresponsible and instead of learning from it has erased much of it from his memory and abdicated respons…[Read more]

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    @miapatrick

    oh right, I was confused as to why you’d think that. That’s dreadful! BBC subtitles translated it as tenth, but then, they have the script I suppose.

    One thing though- what if he had said ‘twelth’? I don’t think the doctor would have shot him. Was he that keen to get back into a female body?

    I would have thought that when the BBC s…[Read more]

  • tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @starla

    Hmm… maybe the Doctor was the president’s father? Or father-in-law?

    Haha- as the president was Rassilon in the time of the 1st Doctor (which seems to be the time period referenced) that would be a big call if he were Rassilon’s father (since he’s as old as the time lord civilisation). Father-in-law would make for some interesting pos…[Read more]

  • tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @misterhoo

    By dying, is Clara “practically immortal”? In theory, as long as she returns to her moment of death, there will be no cataclysmic paradox that will tear apart time and space. However, she plans to take some adventures in her TARDIS before that happens. Isn’t she taking a big risk by delaying her return? If she “dies” before re…

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    @countscarlioni

    But according to a new paper, there’s one theory for the origins of the universe that predicts time itself will end in just five billion years—coincidentally, right around the time our sun is slated to die.” If so, things would sort of work.

    Interesting… I think that’s pretty speculative and most theories suggest it would get m…[Read more]

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    @puroandson

    I thought also that the TLs were seen as the ineffectual people they had become. They would send an army of people to kill the Doctor: they were now frightened of him. They would put some distance between him and themselves – always send the soldiers: that’s a metaphor for the whole of the Time War isn’t it? The soldiers and the chi…

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  • tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @supernumerary

    Afraid I’m not quite as blown away as everyone here- it was good, certainly, but I found it pretty unsatisfying.

    I’m much in the same camp- while there were some good elements, overall I was left unsatisfied, and annoyed with a number of elements. I wanted to like the episode, but just couldn’t.

    It, like many a finale before, h…

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