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Totally agree. I don’t subscribe to the “Clara Who” thing. There’s no more focus put on her, I find, than there was on any other Nu Who companions, but I just can’t warm to her character.
In this episode, I had the distinct feeling, every time she was being very intense (“not the pat on the back sign-off. I love you” or the whole “tell me it’s you and I’ll come and find you”), that I had seen that scence too many times before.
No Clara hater here, but I think it’s time for her to go

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Hi !

Logging on again after a long time offline. Guess I’m a bit of a lurker on online forums,and enjoy reading everybody’s theories and feel I don’t have much to add.
On this occasion, however, I haven’t read any thoerising here about something I’m 99% sure I saw happen in Dark Water, after reading one comment about it somewhere else :
When Clara realises Danny has had an accident and just before the shot changed to her standing in the middle of the road, it really looks like the phone doesn’t get dropped, but actually gets absorbed into her hand. There even seems to be a sound effect associated with a sort of sucking effect…

Did anybody else see this ?

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I didn’t notice any real change in acting in the middle of Cold War… I would say the biggest change in Clara’s character happened between Hide and NiS : she goes from being very scared to totally in control of the situation. Of course, this could be attributed to her being in a haunted house at the time, not knowing what she’s facing, but one might think that cybermen and a planet-exploding bomb would be enough to scare anyone.

Is it not more likely that it’s just that maybe her character wasn’t totally thought out ? From what we know, every Clara fragment has her own life before meeting the Doctor, so how could he meet a different fragment each time he lands in the same place in the same time-frame ? And remember, the soufflé is the recipe : she doesn’t, or shouldn’t, change much in each fragment…

Nonetheless, I do like the idea, I just can’t see how it can be really explained…

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I think, but would like not to, that if Clara’s story isn’t perfectly explained yet, it won’t be in the 50th anniversary. The whole point of that story, I think, will be to explore what the doctor means.

We found out here that his name isn’t important, and that the name he chose is a promise he made. But we still don’t really know what that promise is. Sure, we can speculate it’s “the man who makes people better”, as the Master said, or the healer, as they say in A good man goes to war, but we still aren’t sure, or at any rate haven’t heard it from the mouth of the Doctor himself.

I think the whole point of the 50th anniversary will be looking back in a way at what makes the doctor the doctor. We still need to find out what that promise was, and the Hurt Doctor, by breaking it, will give us an insight into that. Moffat’s genius was finding a way, in universe, to explore what being the Doctor really means, across all incarnations and all fifty years. As such, the episode should be about the Doctor, and not a companion, who, even if she has been made important for the whole history in this episode, has really only been around for one season.

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A french site about classic doctor who, with almost all episodes subtitles in french (doesn’t matter to me, but pretty much the only place I can find them all together), has a very nice list of three or four episodes each from the classic doctors to get a feel of their incarnation :

 

http://doctorwhoclassicfr.hautetfort.com/archive/2012/11/03/bien-se-lancer-dans-la-serie-classic.html

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Hi !

I’m new here. Just this week watched tNotD, and realized that in France, there’s not many people to endlessly theorize about Doctor Who with, so I thought to join the doctor who forum.

So hello to eveeryone !

 

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