I love the idea that Clara is a paradox/Claricle, but it’s too Rose/Bad Wolf.
I’m going back to the drawing board.
Nine had to save Rose from what she had become to save everyone from the Daleks, he learns love can save the world, not just violence.
Ten tried to save Martha from what she became to save everyone from the Master. He…[Read more]
My last sounds too much like River. I’ll take some time to think this through.
I didn’t think Missy was connected to Clara till reading theories here.
@Serahni After speaking with my cousin tonight, it’s almost a foregone conclusion that I will be attending with a 9-year-old K9 and a 5-year-old Dalek.
Sounds awesome 🙂
@purofilion Are you saying as Clara Prime she was already an Old God?
Maybe she forgot (I don’t know where I am), or rather, the Old Gods sent her to destroy the Doctor and she is undercover, Missy is when she remembers and accepts her mission. I’m pretty much making this up as we go lol.
Clara’s Mom was 45 when she died Arbutus
Now I’ve gone completely gone mad lol. I’m putting this together from everyone.
Missy is connected to the Claricles.
The Great Old Ones can
- time travel or following someone in time (Claricles follows the Doctor, she knows what the Tardis looks like inside out, it’s smaller on the outside)
(freak shows) + (generations) =
Maybe as a God of Ragnorak, Missy has been collecting the Clara’s. She makes sure they die when they meet the Doctor, sending messages for Claricles. Reanimate them as she did with Humpty.
This is prolly getting way crazy lol. But it would be a place for the Claricles to go. But why?…[Read more]
@midnyt meh. never apply logic to who. at least not with Moffat at the helm.
“That he’s mad, ’tis true,
’tis true tis pity,
And pity ’tis, ‘its true.”
I wonder why Eleven is so sure that Twelve will need Clara. Eleven went out and found himself new friends even though Ten was so heartbroken you think he may never have traveled…[Read more]
You know, one of the reasons it could be vunerable, that is the same car, the one that killed Pete, that almost killed Clara’s dad.
@Pedant Well done remembering the P.O.V. shots from the previous series. That definitely implies that someone was watching Clara & the Doctor and steering them together.
Hmmm…that is…[Read more]
Big Bang, Father’s Day, Curse of Fenric, Blink, City of Death
The Doctor Who and Philosphy book tries to explain some of these with modern science, closed causal chain, reverse causation.
I think there’s a trend where Moffat m…
They all had to be in exactly that place exactly at that time…Just like Clara was. She blew into this world on a life. She makes it sound as if her life is just as planned as one of the echoes. The woman in the shop told her where she needed to be. Maybe all the echoes have their own “woman in a shop.”
the Doctor said it was dangerous to be in his own timeline. Then, at other times, and definitely with Tennant it’s all about ‘I can’t go back on my own timeline’.
The one that bothered me was Journey to the Center of the Tardis. He went back on his own time stream to save himself. If he could do that, there would never be any tensi…[Read more]
@Rob Like crossing the river Styx? The Sonic bypasses the need for the ferryman. Norse mythology is like that too, if you are a great warrior you get to go to Valhalla (Sonic), everyone else just goes to Hel. At the end of time, the warriors of Valhalla fight to save the world. Hmmm. I like this. So Missy has her own Sonic device…[Read more]
Still there I’d imagine.
I’m loving this Clara echoes idea. They may be echoes but I’m sure they think of themselves are real people; born, live, and die. It’s idenity, just like the Doctor has to deal with when he meets his past sevels. Same face different memories vs Different face same memories.
Moffat likes to revist po…[Read more]
He may have been saying the truth if Handles was yet another incarnation of the splintered Clara that shows up throughout his whole timeline. Anyone else have that thought?
That would be awesome. I hope we see more Clara echos. If Clara got to meet one of her echos, so many possibilites.
I completely agree with you that the show needs to follow its own rules. Smith going back on his own timeline really bugged me.
I’m with you, Lockness monster, Big Foot. I think it was just a red herring for the first episode. Writing for this world, not a plot point in Doctor Who.
I was wondering about the R…[Read more]
First section is about idenity, is the Doctor the same man each regeneration, how do you define idenity. I love the example, if you are whipped as a boy, become a soldier than retire a general. Now the soldier remembers being whipped and the general r…[Read more]
@wolfweed And I see your point about Vastra & Jenny. Oh… They’re married, so they’re ‘allowed’ to share oxygen…
They could’ve spent that beat watching Clara fiddle with the sonic, not know what to do and put it in her pocket. I don’t remember there being a chance for her to have given it back.
@Pufferfish you can see his side-eye, whereas the dormant droids are facing forward, unseeing. So he never *quite* abandons her in the ‘larder’.
You’re right. And he is also the “droid” who dragged her away. I bet that was the Doctor who put the dream in her mind of the kids screaming, so she would start the ball rolling. He believed in her, t…[Read more]
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