• CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @Arbutus    Very elegantly  put. When watching The Witch’s Familiar, I didn’t feel that Clara’s fate was really up for grabs as the Doctor was not going to listen to Missy’s urgings. But the context has by this point shifted mightily and that scene now looks like a clear warning and has taken on a new force.

    My 15 year is not interested in the nu…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @Arbutus    My 15 year old daughter was devastated when Danny Pink died. So, on a personal level, I very much hope Clara is upright and walking at the end of Face the Raven or there will be serious (domestic) consequences. However, it seems that the logic (using the word loosely given it’s Doctor Who) of the series is suggesting it might very w…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @purofilion

    We could argue about ‘true love’ but as Missy says “can you humans understand the meaning of real friendship?” This is true love – as true as any sexual love, and as some Greeks would have it, truer and longer lasting than most other forms which flit and fly by on the ether.

     

     

    Fully agree. Or perhaps along the lines of a…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @mersey

    “Doctor already lost Amy and governess-Clara. And he was really devastated by their deaths. I don’t know if Moffat want to stake on the same card. But maybe 12th can cope with her loss much more better than 11th. He is a very ambiguous charater in case of feelings. He couldn’t understand the feelings of the crew who lost their friends (ca…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @nerys  @django  @brewski @lisa  @FatManInaBox

     

    If I’ve missed any other cocktail theorists in working through the comments, my apologies.
    My original puzzlement over “cocktail” was not just with the word, but with what seemed to me the modern manner in which it was offered to Ashildr/Lady Me, as if could almost have been a moment from a cockta…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @Mirime  @Arbutus  @purofilion

    The cocktail. Minor errors with hats and Viking helmets I can understand. But calling for a cocktail in 1651?? Even for a village theatre group to make that sort of mistake would be very embarrassing. On the face of it this is such a ludicrous anachronism that I wondered if we were being told something, that A…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @pedant  “Or simply filling in for Clara’s mother. Or offered her….”

    If I’ve understood the point correctly, I think I’m with you.

    Maybe this is hope beating out reason, but has SM only thrown a bone to devoted and eagle-eyed fans with Clara’s `mother’? Ashildr/Lady Me dressed like, and wearing her hair like, Clara’s mother must be a very signi…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @ichabod  “I got the impression though that Me is committing not to looking out for discarded companions, but for the normal folks that the Doctor leaves behind when an adventure ends (for him!) and he takes off.  So far, Me has no means of traveling in time and space, so how could she “look after” Clara?  Stuck on Earth, I think her only option i…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @kharis  Wonderful catch!!

    With Ashildr/Lady Me now looking out for those the Doctor abandons, and now at Clara’s back, I couldn’t help but think of an exchange from Deep Breath.

    Half-Face Man: Where is the other one?
    Clara: I don’t know. But I know where he will be. Where he will always be. If the Doctor is still the Doctor, he will have my ba…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    The powerfully played and thought provoking exchanges between Me/Ashildr  and the Doctor made that episode for me, and even the feeble Leandro didn’t really detract from the strong overall flow.

    A few first impressions…

    “Purple is the colour of death”. Which fits perfectly with Missy’s outfit, but why then have there been publicity shots of P…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    Just back at the computer after taking another look at the last couple of minutes of the episode… The use of “she deserved it” didn’t seem untowards. I took the exchange in the sense of, say, someone winning a prize for her efforts and an onlooker agreeing that the prizewinner indeed deserved it.

    Seeing that last scene in…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

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    @ichabod First, happy birthday. Second,

    He says Ashildr is a hybrid — because of the Mire-tech chip?  Of from before that?  His being so struck by the familiarity of her fact back at the beginning suggests that he could know things about her from another encounter that nobo…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

    @ichabod

    Ashildr also seems problematical: she has brought her village bad luck

    But has she?  Her father says, she thinks that every bad thing that happens to this village is because of her; and the villagers don’t react to her the way small communities tend to react to people singled out as bad luck — just the opposite.  That bit doesn’…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

    @Ichabod  “how can he know by the end of “Girl” that Ashildr will in fact become a problem because of the chip he’s given her?  He know that he himself has, on occasion, been problematic to the universe (all right, remind me — does he remember now that he’s both destroyed Gallifrey and saved/hidden Gallifrey without destroying it?), but she’s j…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

    Perhaps out of the mist it’s possible to glimpse an arc.

    If in The Woman Woman Who Lived the Doctor realises he indeed made a “terrible mistake” (his words) in letting Ashildr become “functionally immortal” so that she could become a tidal wave of mayhem rather than a mere benign ripple in time, then later the Doctor will be in what will be for h…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

    <div class=”bbp-reply-author”>Very much agree with @blenkinsopthebrave and @janetteb ‘s point that The Girl Who Died had the feel of a BG story.</div>
    To follow-up the point on the Doctor’s trousers (which I believe are supposed to be Troughton era trousers-see below the bit from the Radio Times in August), Peter Capaldi has directed us to “spec…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

    That struck me as a deadly serious and deep episode disguised as a romp. Lots of very thought provoking stuff about the nature of stories, the endings of stories and a story within a story to help defeat the Mire. The Doctor also likes to remind us he himself is a story.

    The face of the lion in the stagecoach with (we now know it’s) Ashildr t…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic Before The Flood

    Amazing, mind boggling stuff again….What I took from Before the Flood is the lengths to which the Doctor will go to prevent harm coming to Clara. The rules of time go out the window if Clara is under threat and so he creates the bootstrap paradox before he, as he believes he is shortly to do, dies.    

    But that’s based just on one viewing so may…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic Under The Lake

    O.K., to try to take up the art criticism challenge set by @bluesqueakpip and following up @juniperfish

    In the Bible story of Jonah and the whale, Jonah is thrown overboard from his ship by his crew-mates in order to put an end to a terrible storm (though they are reluctant to take this action), he is swallowed by a giant whale or huge fish (…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic Under The Lake

    Lots of really insightful comments that made a made a quick second viewing essential! Many thanks!

    I found the discussion jumping off from the mural in the eating area in the base especially intriguing. Isn’t the serpent in the mural pretty much a match for the serpent/dragon we saw in the pre-season trailer (but in the trailer it was alive and r…[Read more]

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