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31 January 2013 at 00:10 #2211
@jimthefish Can you imagine The Telegraph readers’ reaction to Doctors who’ve changed gender?
30 January 2013 at 23:39 #2205This is a repost from the 50th Anniversary thread, but it’s a good’un. A really great interpretation of all the Doctor’s as female. The ‘Time Ladies’:
http://rocketssurgery.tumblr.com/post/27237329389/time-ladies-aaw-yeaah-3
30 January 2013 at 23:33 #2203@juniperfish @phaseshift (welcome back by the way) Will do. For some reason I really like eight. It’s the forlorn look. She really looks like she feels she deserves more than one poor movie… much like McGann.
30 January 2013 at 22:51 #2177Speaking of which, I really, really love this “Time Ladies” pic. I should probably moderate myself now and put it in Fan Creativity, but it kinda fits with some of my last post.
http://rocketssurgery.tumblr.com/post/27237329389/time-ladies-aaw-yeaah-3In fact, what if he met with all-female versions of himself? That would get round every issue Gaiman has in the vid above.
Then again, I may have had too much wine tonight 😀
30 January 2013 at 22:37 #2175I was also thinking about multiple Universes today, as you do. How everything that happens, every decision you make creates new Universes. Stephen Hawking thinks it’s true so who am I to argue?
I’m no physicist, but if Schrodinger’s cat can be both alive and dead, and there are many universes or dimensions, then there can also be many incarnations of the same Doctor. Maybe…
Would it be a cheat for him to meet up with himself from “many-worlds”? Just imagine a youthful Hartnell, a female Tom Baker (love a girl in a long scarf and dark, curly hair), an old Davison, a fat Colin Baker :-D, and (as he’s always wanted) a leather-jacket wearing Paul McGann.
30 January 2013 at 22:06 #2167@blenkinsopthebrave I thought it might be fun if they combined the two in some sort of way, and had the Doctor going back to 1963 and visiting the set of a new TV show that seemed to be based on his own life, starring someone that looks a lot like he used to. What devious creature has implanted his character in the creators’ minds, in the most exact detail, and why was he now been brought back to witness to it?
But I know what you mean. It would seem like they had just tried to save on the budget and shoot two shows with the same actors, sets and costumes. Which wouldn’t be good.
There’s definitely an idea there though. Star Trek gets a lot of references in NuWho. So why not Who itself?
30 January 2013 at 19:11 #2155Thought this was pretty cool. Sacha Dhawan got to meet the man he will be playing in the new docu-drama, director Warris Hussein.
It also says Hussein was at the read-through yesterday and he got a round of applause when he was introduced. Intriguingly it also says:
He laughs and goes on to mention several other Doctor Who luminaries who also got applause – but we cannot reveal their names at this stage!
Who might also have been there? Lambert and Newman are sadly dead, as is Jacqueline Hill. So I’m guessing Carole Ann Ford and William Russell were also there, helping with the details.
30 January 2013 at 07:45 #2109And then I wake up to this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21251726David Bradley is to play Hartnell, another great choice. And filming starts in Feb.
30 January 2013 at 07:26 #2107I posted here that the first read-through of the docu-drama was announced by Gatiss as happening yesterday, so I would imagine filming will begin in a couple of weeks.
http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/doctor-who-news/#post-207529 January 2013 at 21:00 #2093@jimthefish Ha ha, I never checked out IMDB. Yes, that character name is incredibly ambiguous. They really do continue to play with us.
Wouldn’t it be interesting if every episode featured an old, Doctor-like character, from the first to the eighth (I think there are eight episodes – coincidence!!!!)?
I think David Warner would have been a brilliant Doctor (he’s never got the recognition he really deserves), and we’re still here despite the Colin Baker years when they seemed to want us to hate the Doctor. The idea of the character is bigger than any actor and that is the beauty of it.
29 January 2013 at 20:39 #2087@jimthefish He would be great. Have always loved David Warner. However he’s mentioned here as being in the third episode:
http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/06/dwn270612211512-david-warner-to-star-in.html
http://guide.doctorwhonews.net/story.php?story=PhantomsoftheHexORTheHiderintheHouseHowever, that episode is written by Gatiss, who has had his head in the first Doctor all year, so doesn’t mean he couldn’t turn up again later as the first. He could well be the first and not know he is! It IS Who after all.
29 January 2013 at 19:57 #2081Going back to my earlier post about the “Coming soon” trailer I was just having a muse.
One episode seems to be set at sea – on a boat or submarine. Sea Devils anyone?
Another seems to take place entirely in a monastary. Could we see the return of The Monk?
I know bringing back loads of old baddies is a bit cliched, but if you can’t have fun for your 50th birthday, when can you?
29 January 2013 at 19:13 #2079And finally, for now, 😀 BBC Worldwide has produced a quite lengthy playlist on YouTUbe dedicated the first Doctor. Well worth checking out.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKEzuOOEQvYNH8ByzLYWR27VQFMjcn2bw
29 January 2013 at 18:55 #2077Oh, and just saw this sad news. I never knew he’d played so many parts in Who.
29 January 2013 at 18:48 #2075Just saw this tweet by Mark Gatiss
The day has dawned! Read-through today of ‘An Adventure in Space & Time’. Bill always said that one day he’d come back…
— Mark Gatiss (@Markgatiss) January 29, 2013
It also made me think. This story will feature an actor playing William Hartnell playing the first Doctor. Hmmm, an actor ready made for a first Doctor appearance in the 50th in a meta, winking and possibly breaking the fourth wall kinda way.
28 January 2013 at 19:49 #2047I had always thought the the middle part in the design was either Eleven (are he and Eleven connected), or Two in roman numerals. Omega 2?
Also, his breast plate does remind me of the Lodger/Silent TARDIS control panels:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Omega_%28The_Three_Doctors%29.jpg28 January 2013 at 18:59 #2043@jimthefish Your post reminded me of this old story:
http://www.geeknative.com/18063/will-benedict-cumberbatch-play-omega-in-doctor-who/The Omega symbol popped up in Time of Angels. Are the Clerics actually in the Church of Omega?
27 January 2013 at 16:51 #2003@scaryb Yes, I went on an cybermat extermination session yesterday after a bot posted 5 spammy updates. Bot sign-ups should be less over time, as the changes I’ve put in place filter through to Google etc. Am trying to keep this board completely human. And yes, we may not have too many members yet, but it’s good that nearly all are active.
27 January 2013 at 16:38 #1999Neil Gaiman’s ‘dream story’ for the 50th anniversary is an 11 Doctors story. Which I’m surprised about as he’s an imaginative bloke.
Have loved his stuff ever since he took over Miracle Man from Alan Moore and have every issue of Sandman in the original comic format. From then on through American Gods etc his imagination has shone through, so an 11 Doctors story just seems so… unoriginal, for him.
But maybe the fanboy takes over from the rational or creative when thinking about the 50th, or… he’s just playing with us.
27 January 2013 at 08:58 #1961This is airing tonight in the US. I want!
Is supposedly followed by The Aztecs.
25 January 2013 at 13:08 #1911BBC Worldwide has just launched a new Doctor Who website. http://www.doctorwho.tv/
There’s already some cool stuff on it. I liked these brief bits from the Reign of Terror reconstruction:
http://www.doctorwho.tv/whats-new/article/exclusive-reign-of-terror-animation-video-clipsAnd lots of info for beginners on the first Doctor here:
http://www.doctorwho.tv/50-years/doctors/first-doctor25 January 2013 at 07:38 #1909@blenkinsopthebrave and @scaryb Ha ha, yes I do know the difference, having travelled most of the east coast of Oz by car, from Fraser Island all the way down to Tasmania, with my Australian ex, and having a friend from New Zealand (who dismisses Oz as the West Island) and another ex who now lives there – I don’t take it personally that she moved as far away as she possibly could! 😀
That’s the problem with lurking I guess, you miss the occasional, important detail!
25 January 2013 at 00:55 #1899@haveyoufedthefish LMAO.
Can you imagine? “If I touch these two wires together I could end all trite, bland surrealism with a single stroke. Should I wield that power”. Meanwhile the audience yell “Do it, he’s nothing but a charlatan, and with that moustache he looks a bit like the Master too. What more reason do you need?”. Meanwhile Sarah Jane turns into a lemon.
25 January 2013 at 00:22 #1891@scaryb Ah, for some reason I thought he was in New Zealand. Must pay more attention! I do have a Scottish ex-girlfriend living there though, in Wellington, and I have a friend in London with family in Christchurch. So I may be able to take orders. Or they may do international delivery themselves (they’d be bonkers not to, really).
Stupid (related story), first time my New Zealander friend came round to mine she said something that I heard as “I like your Dali”. I said “No, that’s a Matisse (print)”, and she replied “No, your Dalek!” (yes, I have a Dalek on one of my shelves). Probably doesn’t translate as very funny unless you do the accent though. 😀
25 January 2013 at 00:09 #1887@pedant (IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan)
I was actually just reading XKCD tonight, catching up on What If?, going backwards, as you do. I got as far as “What would the world be like if the land masses were spread out the same way as now – only rotated by an angle of 90 degrees?”. Answer: In London the food is still bland, the Thames is full of piranha, and it’s the only place on Earth where tigers apologise as they attack you.
So here’s my Doctor Who in the 1000 most used words. It’s just the basics. May try another one tomorrow. Was an interesting challenge. Part of my job is writing so is a challenge to try and convey meaning as simply as possible. I think I may send that link to my workmates tomorrow.
The Doctor is from another world and he lives in a blue police box. It is bigger on the inside and it can go to any place in space and time. He has lots of exciting stories to tell. And many yet to tell. He often meets bad things from other worlds but almost always saves the day.
He often takes a friend or two with him as he goes from place to place and from time to time. In the past the friends were there so that he could explain to them what was going on, so that we would also understand. Sometimes they were also there for the Dads watching. But these days they are there as people in their own right and the stories are deeper and more interesting for that.
The Doctor has been on TV for 50 years this year. Big things are planned…
24 January 2013 at 20:22 #1871@blenkinsopthebrave You may get a few requests to get us some of these:
24 January 2013 at 19:51 #1869Not sure if someone has posted this already, but Eoin Colfer was on the Today programme yesterday (it being the 23rd) talking about his short story. He was talking to James Naughtie who quipped “This is one of these items if I get anything wrong I’ll be answering letters for the next 2 years”. From us? 😀
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21158174
Slight spoilers involved.
21 January 2013 at 22:42 #1807@juniperfish. Done. I won’t tell if you won’t tell. 😀
21 January 2013 at 22:38 #1803@phaseshift I have a picture of me with that one in Buchanan Street in Glasgow. I was going out with an Australian girl at the time and she’d never heard of Doctor Who until Nu Who started (weird given the posts by @janetteb and @blenkinsopthebrave), then she instantly became a fan. When I took her to Glasgow, she just had to make an arse of me in the street and take my photo.
Funny, when Eccleston regenerated I just thought, he was okay but let’s see what they’ve got next, but she burst into tears. She was 32, but I guess your first Doctor is always gonna be something special.
20 January 2013 at 14:16 #1781It seems like a long time ago now, but I used to work in the film business in script development. The only film I made any substantial contribution towards was “Sliding Doors” (I tried my best). I did also get to meet Paul McGann with 3 of his brothers when I worked on a TV show called “The Hanging Gale” (I didn’t mention Doctor Who to him though – was probably still a bit raw then).
Thinking about the posibility of a movie, it would only work if it stayed well away from current Who. I like @jimthefish‘s idea of someone like Sean Connery doing the first Doctor. People love an origins story (just look at Spider-Man – 2 in the space of 10 years). If it was that far removed it could work, perhaps covering some of the old, lost episodes. I can also see that a franchise could be developed, much like James Bond, where occasionally the Doctor is replaced by a new actor. I think it would have to remain canon though, but if they can do it with books and with audio, why not with film? The first Doctor has been played by several actors, why not the rest? It has already been suggested, for example, that Sean Pertwee could double for his Dad. I’m even sure there’s someone out there who could do a great/alternative Tom Baker.
What horrified me about what Yates said was that they were going to reimagine the whole thing. That sort-of worked with the Star Trek reboot, but I’m still not that happy about it. Everything in the Star Trek universe no longer happened? Good movie, but I still hate you for destroying Vulcan, J.J. Abrams! The second one better be good.
So I don’t think a movie is a bad idea, I think a bad movie is a bad idea. Moffat has suggested Who is going to be everywhere this year. While I don’t think he means in the cinema, it would be a nice surprise. What I do hope for though, is a cinematic, feature-length 50th Anniversary story. Don’t let me down Steven.
19 January 2013 at 14:31 #1727I had just typed a megapost to submit on the Andrew Sparrow political blog, and posted when they decided to change the format mid-day. I lost my words, and went to town on the complaint blogs.
This is just a quick post to point out that this is not my server, it’s cheap hosting in the US, but cheap hosting that I have found incredibly reliable and incredibly helpful for at least 9 years. I currently have 5 websites hosted by this company. But there is always the possible case that a connection may drop out just as you press “Submit”.
I would urge everyone who is writing anything big to write it offline, and save it offline. Then upload it.
I’m backing up the database everyday, as the hosting company is supposed to do, but after all these years with them I still think I have to take some personal responsibility for anything I’m running. I owe it to you.
18 January 2013 at 21:05 #1683@juniperfish @jimthefish and @phaseshift
I also missed all of early Who, and despite loving it have never really gone back except when it was repeated. I just wish I had the time and the years (oh, to be a Time Lord).
I find this guy quite entertaining though, and he is obviously a huge fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIrYesYBe2A
There are links to brief introductions to the other Doctors in the related links down the side. I really enjoyed them.
18 January 2013 at 14:49 #1663Did someone just mention Flash Gordon? Is Gordon alive? Good. I like to play with things a while before annihilation. 😀
18 January 2013 at 13:52 #1657Yay @phaseshift (and @jimthefish ) that made me laugh out loud for real. I knew there was a reason I could trust you to moderate.
For anyone who can’t be bothered to click through, PhaseShift’s comment on The Guardian’s new nested comments system was this, in all its glory:
This format is not merely ‘pants’ – this is pure, organically grown, ‘M&S tramp pants’, dipped lovingly in rancid urine, and smeared with faeces spattered forth from the rectum of someone suffering from dysentery.
Pure poetry 😀
18 January 2013 at 01:07 #1641@whisht thanks for the props.
I’m really interested in the desire lines concept. I do websites as part of my job (not full time – hence the piecemealness) so I read the usuals, Jakob Nielson, Steve Krug etc. for UX or Usabilty (are they the same thing?) info, but I don’t think I’ve ever come across desire lines, and yet I really like the idea as I briefly understand it.
I’m all for users creating their own site and I’d love that to happen here (within reason – there’s a certain fish we keep having to reel in!). If you have any articles or papers you could link to that you think are useful on this point I’d love to read them.
18 January 2013 at 00:57 #1639Now that I think about it, my favourite fantasy TV serial has to be “A Very British Coup”. It’s a wonderful, three-part political drama from the Eighties. It’s fantasy because it’s about a far-left Labour government winning an election during what were the Thatcher years. The powerful forces of The Establishment then try to take them down but, in reality, The Establishment would never have let them get that far in the first place.
Written by playwright Alan Plater, based on a much more depressing book by Labour MP Chris Mullin, it features a barnstorming performance by the late, great Ray McAnally as the new Prime Minister, Harry Perkins. If you haven’t seen it you can check it out on 4od here: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/a-very-british-coup/4od#3204906.
If nothing else, it’s great to check out the terrible fashions and hairstyles of the Eighties. But I think it is one of the greatest “what if” fantasy dramas ever.
My favourite bit – Harry Perkins is travelling to London on a train after winning the Election:
Journalist: “Is it true you’re going to abolish First Class?”
Perkins: “No, I’m going to abolish Second Class. I think everyone is First Class, don’t you?”17 January 2013 at 18:59 #1617Have added a picture link on the Home page, and merged the two Lodger threads. Also have segmented the Home page after a suggestion by @scaryb and renamed the audio topic to something more appropriate.
Which reminds me, must catch up on more of them while I can. I’m “working” at home tomorrow because of the snow warning. Plenty of time on my hands…
We’ll get this right eventually! 😀
17 January 2013 at 00:27 #1531Just got in and it is bloody cold in London, and I’m from Scotland! Also, had a few ales so apologies if I’m a bit sarcastic e.g @juniperfish why does it not surprise me that you want yet another topic! 🙂 Any more and I will set @blenkinsopthebrave on to you. “Faces of the Doctor” is a good idea though. Please go ahead and set that up @phaseshift
I am such a softie!
The Lodger issue is my bad. Phaseshift got there before me and I didn’t check. I’ll try and merge the two tomorrow. Apologies.
Will also look into the whole memory strand thing. I don’t think I have any more permissions than splitting a thread, but will check. I was actually thinking about it last night (you guys keep me awake at night) and thought maybe @juniperfish you would like to change your mega-post into our first blog post. With a few tweaks it could really work. I’m not sure I can turn follow ups into comments on a blog, but if not they can be copied and pasted. Although I like database hacking, so probably not a problem.
Sorry, still in our infancy here and still learning!
15 January 2013 at 22:14 #1477@juniperfish No worries. And I always liked the joke that it was the Doctor who was hiding behind the sofa.
15 January 2013 at 20:59 #1473Cheers @bluesqueakpip
I’m only just getting used to this myself, but some of those options are definitely available. It is certainly possible to move a post, or posts, to another topic. I can also split a topic from a certain post, so if a topic goes completely “off topic” it is easy to move all posts from a certain point into a new topic.
I’m not sure about being able to make one post show up in several different topics. That’s maybe a good thing though, as the poster thinks they are only posting in one topic. But I may be wrong.
Linking between threads isn’t something built in, but anyone can link to any comment on any topic just by linking to the number/link at the top right of any post (opposite the post’s date).
Re chronology, the topics on the forums pages (once you drill down) are also ordered in terms of which one has been posted to most recently. And we also have the Activity page which shows you all recent activity.
In addition, if we do start to get really busy, anybody can choose to “Friend” users, and get an Activity stream of just their friends contributions (I think).
So there are quite a few useful tools. But please let me know if you think things are getting out of hand. And if you want to be a Mod yourself, let me know, sounds like you know what you’re doing.
15 January 2013 at 20:15 #1453@juniperfish Maybe it’s the Yin Yang fish, but you have the ability to twist me round your little finger: 😀
http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/on-the-sofa/I can see the point though and, as @scaryb wants this topic too, is probably a good experiment.
But no more!
15 January 2013 at 19:15 #1445I am still deeply grateful that we Enthusiasts have a dedicated site to share our thoughts and reflections, but, I also find myself missing the feel of the single, ongoing conversation.
I completely agree with you. That’s why I’m reluctant to set up too many topics, it does fracture the conversation. If I’m honest I’m not used to a forum like this. My experience of forums has mostly been technical ones about building websites where users start a new topic almost every time they post, usually along the lines of “Help, how do I do this?” Then I would go on and answer their question. Those sites have thousands of topics with a few replies, but that is how it should be.
This is different, and if anyone with more experience of this sort of forum wants to provide some sage advice, I’m very happy to hear it (I think @bluesqueakpip said they helped out on a BUffy one). I’ve had a look at a few other Doctor Who forums (at least the ones you don’t have to register for) and many of them have not edited the software or changed permissions and so allow all users to start topics. They are therefore a lot more fractured than this. For example, this one has 652 pages of topics:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=183I think the current issues are probably due to the fact that we are very few users at the beginning of an experiment, as @juniperfish said. As we grow (which I expect will only really happen once the new series starts) more and more people will be making more and more posts. Hopefully it will get to a point where no one can possibly read every post, but you will just find topics and conversations you enjoy, follow them and join in. At that point it should be much more like the old Guardian threads. I do hope so.
13 January 2013 at 19:11 #1395@janetteb @juniperfish @jimthefish
Many thanks. It’s been my pleasure. You guys (and I include women in that too, like actor for all, not actor and actress – hopefully I’m not offending anyone) have entertained me for the last few years on The Guardian while I’ve been lurking. This seems like the least I could do to pay you back.
And I kinda enjoy it. I’ve messed about with these programmes but never really run a proper community site before. This one is developing as it grows, and that’s a lot of fun. It’s like watching my baby grow. And I’m learning new stuff all the time.
Re a thread for LindaLee or a thread for newbies such as Here be Dragons (not), I’m not so sure, at the mo. I’m not a big fan of forums that have thousands of topics but each topic only has a few comments. I’d like to keep the site focused, at least for now, on the essentials. I think it makes it better for everyone. But I am open to change as things develop.
But if you disagree, just let me know. I’m not the boss here, just the facilitator. And that will always be the case.
13 January 2013 at 18:27 #1393@phaseshift and @scaryb
A little off topic, but I always thought Craig Ferguson was an arse (at least in his early days). Turns out there was a reason for that. Then I saw this, when he went on TV the week that Brittany Spears shaved her head, and talked about his battle with alcohol. Having known people with alcohol problems, I have never had more respect for anyone than I did for him then (the audience I’m not so sure about).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGLzpt3caHw
Well worth 12 minutes of your life, and his book about it, if you’re interested, is even better.
12 January 2013 at 10:10 #1291My earliest memories of Doctor Who are of the final days of Pertwee. I had just turned 4 when Planet of the Spiders was broadcast and remember bits and pieces which scared the hell out of me. But it wasn’t really until the first series of Baker that it really started to make an impression.
And no wonder with such a great start to a series. First a giant Robot, which will ever be ingrained on my memory (what little boy wouldn’t love that?), and then The Ark in Space, which really creeped me out. It featured more giant spidery things, and Noah transforming into a Wirrn must be the most disturbing thing I had ever seen at that point. From then on I was definitely hooked.
I haven’t actually ever gone back and watched those episodes as I fear I may be disappointed now. Part of me wants to, but mostly I want to retain the way I felt then, as a child, when I watched them the first time.
12 January 2013 at 09:25 #1283Hi @juniperfish Great idea from @jimthefish. Your wish etc…
http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/doctor-who-memories/
I’ll put something up on the Home page shortly.
And thanks, no spambots have registered since I made the changes so hopefully that means they’ve worked.
12 January 2013 at 08:58 #1273@blenkinsopthebrave and @janetteb
Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t so much bemoaning the fact that part 2 will be crap because it may be lower budget, I totally agree that budget limitations can often lead to much more creativity. My point was more that there may be a reason for that, that it could point to the Anniversary Special being something very, very big indeed, with a lot of blow-your-mind spectacular scenes.
I do hope so.
11 January 2013 at 19:24 #1235I just watched the trailer again and it seems to me there may be an episode entirely on a boat/submarine, another entirely in a monastery, another in modern-day London (possibly with a plane sequence), and there is another episode supposedly entirely set in the TARDIS. Another looks like it is back in Victorian London with Jenny and Vastra, so will probably have been filmed back-to-back with the Christmas Special.
All that makes me think there may be a bit of budget-saving going on and they may be planning to blow the whole lot on the Anniversary Special. Kinda makes me slightly less excited about part 2 of the series (although Blink was supposed to be the cheap non-Doctor episode, so who knows), but am looking forward to that Special even more.
10 January 2013 at 20:27 #1173No probs @juniperfish. I would’ve done it last night but I was battling the spammers. Have installed a reCaptcha on the registration page and made a few other changes so hopefully that will help.
I guess I should link to the pic I used for the front page. I thought these three pieces were pretty cool: http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/12/26/awesome-set-doctor-who-fan-art.html
9 January 2013 at 18:35 #1049@juniperfish Done! I’ve opened it with a general thread for now, but will add more threads as it develops.
http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/general-thread-fan-creativity/
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