• WhoHar replied to the topic Rose

    @dentarthurdent

    Im a big fan of Capaldi and, yes, we would certainly be poorer for not having him in Who. But Moff + Whittaker would have served up some treats I think.

    There are a lot of reactionary folk on The G (more now than ever it seems), and the “Moff can’t write…” comments were rarely backed up by anything logical, so my assumption was…[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic Rose

    Yes bring in Billie as the Doctor. If Maxil can become 6, Caecilius becomes 12, & 10 becomes 2 other versions of himself, why not? I can no more understand the voices saying ‘no. Not happened yet. Can’t be real. La la lala la!’

    As to… WHY? I assume Rose represents something to the Doctor… and you might as well call it love. And 6 represente…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic Rose

    @whohar Well, if the 12th Doctor had been Whittaker, it would have been interesting to see how well she did with, errm, better direction. 🙂 Though by the nature of it, we wouldn’t then have seen her actual Chibz-directed performance so we would never be able to make comparisons. (But that’s a hypothetical, to my mind Capaldi + Moff = the Best Doc…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic Rose

    @winston I also like the fan club in Love and Monsters so agreed not all bad.it began well but the ending was questionable. Kill the Moon however I can find nothing positive about at all.

    It would be nice to be able to do a Kryten (Red Dwarf) type memory wipe. (He had his memory of all of Agatha christie’s works deleted so he could read them…[Read more]

  • winston replied to the topic Rose

    @janetteb  Yes, all the episodes. I actually don’t mind Kill the Moon or Love  and Monsters. In fact I like the Who fans who meet to discuss the Doctor but soon become friends and even more. They all had a cruel ending. I don’t enjoy the episodes where the Doctor “dies” and regenerates ,  too sad for me. The cruelty of the cybermen also creeps me…[Read more]

  • WhoHar replied to the topic Rose

    @ps1l0v3y0u

    Very interesting, although I must say that the press criticism passed me by at the time. I do remember seeing “Moff can’t write women” and “Mary Sue” in the comment sections of t’other place, and, yes, he could verge on cartoonish characterisations sometimes. I think he did, clearly, pave the way for the first female Doctor as he…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic Eve of the Daleks

    Well I finally got my re-watch started, at Eve of the Daleks.

    The idea of an ever-shortening time loop is quite a good plot device. In one way it faintly resembles CapaldiDoc’s repeated death in Heaven Sent, though the details are of course very different and this only lasts 50 minutes, not billions of years.

    I’m not too sure *why* it resets on…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic Rose

    @janetteb   I wouldn’t worry about ‘not keeping up.’    I used to comment on episodes as I got them then and then found that the previous comments I was ‘replying’ to were made two years before…   One of the hazards of ‘catching up’ with DVD’s.

    But I don’t recall anyone ever being put out about it.

    Having watched the movie recently, I can se…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic Rose

    also I am not keeping up with this thread. I have a lot more to read so apologies for my post being a little behind the flow of the discussion which I am enjoying and will comment on if time permits.

    cheers

    Janette

  • janetteB replied to the topic Rose

    @winston that is a noble goal. All of the episodes, even Love and Monsters and Kill the Moon!!! I always skip a few when we re watch. I do like the plan though, from Rose to Dr Rose?.

    I have such happy memories of watching Rose that first time, now over twenty years ago. (making it now into our cuT TV Club criteria but I still have some series of…[Read more]

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  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic Rose

    @whohar

    ‘Moff the marked man’… yes I have alluded, heavily. Will try to keep this short.

    In respect to romance in Who, Moff couldn’t do anything RTD didn’t really want, so Russ must have been happy with the tone. And he had previously worked with the idea of ‘Rose the perfect companion’ himself. So, forget ‘The Doctor is Gay Man who women like’…[Read more]

  • WhoHar replied to the topic Rose

    @ps1l0v3y0u

    But Moff became a marked man.

     

    I’ve seen you allude to this before; any more context / details?

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic Rose

    @dentarthurdent @winston

    Rose is a good shout. Billie’s reappearance still seems to mystify the internet ‘World of Gammon.’ So, what’s it all about, eh?

    I think Micky the bin is a good place to start. RTD has a sense of humour, something that continues with Cassandra desiccating, Slitheen flatus issues, and Adam need a hole in the head, like a……[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    Series 18 concluded

    The Great Entropy Expedition ends with ‘Keeper of Traken’, a story about an ideal society which seems to exist through the force of sheer niceness, and ‘Logopolis’ wherein it is revealed that The Universe is actually kaput and only held together with chewing gum, gaffer tape and Maths. Only then does The Master, no longer…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic Rose

    @winston     Rose was an excellent way to (re)start a series.   I think by then, production values (and special FX) had got ‘good enough’ (without the rather charitable allowances we have to make even for the last of OldWho).  Even Mickey’s sticky encounter with the bin was – okay.

    I would say the Companion has been as prominent and as import…[Read more]

  • winston replied to the topic Rose

    I have decided to watch every episode of new Who starting with Rose and ending with 15s regeneration into Rose. Feels like a good circle to follow. I am going to watch them all, even the ones I don’t like so much and the ones that scare me. I will watch the silly ones and the impossible ones and in order. This is my quest for the coming…[Read more]

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  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    Further on with Series 18: State of Decay

    Entropy

    A fairly large pocket universe discovered by impossible coordinates.

    A smaller one, collapsing.

    Hard science at beginning and end.

    A supered companion lost and a decidedly un super one gained

    Bracketed by hardish (for Who) stories by Fisher and Bidmead; forming a sandwich for some extremely…[Read more]

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