Dr Who News (5)

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@devilishrobby @blenkinsopthebrave @janetteb @nerys @translatorcircuit

So, your reading of “with or without Disney’s involvement” is that The Mouse is still interested, whereas we all thought he’s skipped away? But why go if he’s interested? They want a better deal. Yeah, that could be out of Trump’s playbook.

But do we know they are still negotiating? Anybody heard anything? This could be just a form of words, saying we’ll work with Disney or another streamer, but only WITH them… ie the show remains free to air for license payers. Or we do it on our own. And it’s free to air. For now.

Obviously, lots of noises being made on that score but no immediate solution forthcoming.

[WhoHar @whohar]

“Disney Decision on Doctor Who’s Future Delayed Until 2026, Says Bad Wolf”

https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/disney-doctor-whos-future-2026-106117.htm

Not really much of a surprise, given that we are in September and they haven’t aired the Spin-off episode yet.

I did see that the BBC and RTD / Bad Wolf are having some creative disagreements about the way the show should go in the future. RTD wants a more campy, fun tone, while the BBC want to aim more at the teen market.

Also interestingly, there are rumours that the BBC / BW are talking to another (non-Disney party) about coming on board. Said party also favours a more adult tone, and they have put up several well-known writers (no names) as part of the negotiations. This implies they want more control over content after Disney’s mainly hands-off “off you go Russ” approach. My guess is that it is either Amazon or HBO.

I think some fresh ideas are needed at this point. My only concern (echoed here I would imagine), is preserving the essence of the show while moving it forward, and keeping that British sensibility running through it.

[janetteB @janetteb]

@whohar thank you for the update. Potentially positive though you last point absolutely nails the issue. It is essential to preserve the essence of the series.  i felt that the bigger budget did not help with that. It make the more recent series feel more “Hollywood”. It was glossier. Dr Who should never be “glossy”. it needs to preserve that more honest, real life feel that seems more common in British productions. I do feel that RTD did a great job, again, in reviving the series but it is time for a fresh vision. His over the top campy fun is not really to my taste though I enjoy his more serious and grounded writing. I just hope if they do get a new show runner that RTD will stay around pen the odd story as well as Moffat. More adult could also be a concern. Dr Who has always been able to bridge the young/mature viewing divide. I hope it will always do so.

cheers

Janette

 

 

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@janetteb @whohar

It’s a bind.

On the one hand, why does The Corp insist on trying to ‘set the tone’ for the program? Why CAN’T Who be unashamedly kidult? Because it’s a scratching post for antiwoke, pro-bechdel, anti-exploitative, ‘loadarubbish/don’t understand’, don’t frighten the horses & is this where our license fee goes brigades. Most of the criticism sounds pretty unintelligent to the fan. But the program is made for a larger audience than the fans. What we need to do fight the ‘scratchers.’

There again, setting the tone is definitely part of The Corps job. And the job of whoever partners the funding of the show. Glitzy effects: the realisation of Wild Blue Yonder/The Giggle/Finetime/Lux/Story & Engine/Intergalactic Song Contest… was money well spent; Empire of Death and the Omega Zombie, less so. As long as we don’t get 12 on the back of a mechanical horse again.

The Camp Thing, I think, was a combination of Russ’ natural position, a way of ditching Chib pseudopuritanism, and his pitch to The Corp/Disney… this the way it will look. Shiny. Glitter.
I don’t mind it. The problem was the arcs, in terms of length and the VR thing, but in particular, RTD’s bette noir, the season ends.

Like to hear more about these writers.

[camdudetenger2018 @camdudetenger2018]

i wonder if disney will renew doctor who

[WhoHar @whohar]

@camdudetenger2018

Decision delayed until 2026. See my earlier post for more details.

[TranslatorCircuit @translatorcircuit]

I think we can safely assume now that this “decision” on some unknown date in 2026 will include details that there will be no new series of Doctor Who in 2026, because there won’t be “enough time” to produce a series with all the special effects they claim are required!

All Doctor Who fans living in the UK should contact the BBC immediately telling them they’re boycotting the BBC completely because of their treatment of Doctor Who, including the big insult of a planned animated CBeebies Doctor Who series, and will claim a TV licence exemption.

Fans living outside the UK should complain especially if they subscribe to any BBC channels as part of a package, then cancel their subscriptions to those channels, or even the whole package, as well as demanding that the BBC and any production company they may hire stops spending so much time creating special effects for Doctor Who.  Look how many commercial channels the BBC runs around the World! Who can guess how much money they make from this?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_BBC_television_channels

Wherever fans live, they could stage protests against any or all Disney shops, studios, etc, calling them “Doctor Who killers” or even “Doctor Who murderers”, although of course it’s the BBC who are mainly responsible.

Meanwhile fans can listen to lots of Big Finish audio dramas on Spotify and/or Apple Music, as well as watching the fan made series DW2012. Unfortunately, at the moment DW2012 is marred by series 2 of 5 being removed from YouTube to be remastered! Luckily, I’ve just found copies of some of the series two episodes on archive.org

[camdudetenger2018 @camdudetenger2018]

the only time there will be new doctor who stuff is on radio podcasts and fan fiction

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

Hope I’ve done this right:

Shearman wants to write more books/audio/big finish?? Cos he didn’t get another gig on the actual show.

Does someone actually know something?? Has Billie said anything?

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-isnt-dead-fatal-error-comment/?fbclid=IwY2xjawNd5QJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHly7DUWtn0ehP3c_zl65THmEE_QXAjPLemVPNM1t-da67hInF9PRE4C75uCg_aem_MjBrzB0-mj_YVeqY9k6gmg

It’s Billie vs David again. Everyone kind of knows what that means.

Or the show dies! I say again is this what one hit wonder Shearman is chewing? Moff says it was a total shock. So how did Ecclestone know? He knew. Moff knows.

Just a question of when. I say again. Is Russ banking footage? Just in case.

[WhoHar @whohar]

@ps1l0v3y0u

That’s an interesting link and it echoes some of one of my earlier posts on this subject.

It looks like Sherman is saying that there can be no new media with Piper as the Doc because we don’t know for sure that is what she is. And, in that respect, the broader narrative around the Doctor has come to the “full stop” because there is no current Doctor. This affects spin-off media but is probably also hampering RTD2 in that he can’t fully progress his next season, until there is casting certainty. I ‘d love to be party to RTDs thought processes right now – he was in mid-arc, and now his current Doc has gone. What does he do? Rework the existing scripts / outlines, or start afresh? Will he have the motivation and energy to carry on? Will the BBC / Disney / AN Other streamer want him out?

I don’t know what Shearman’s motivations are for saying this right now – he has written for Big Finish in the past, and those stories were well-received I understand, so I’m not sure he needs to necessarily fish for work. Maybe he was just asked by someone. This looks like a story that was picked up by the aggregators (great name for a Who villain btw), and the RT have run with it. They will have a fan-led / BBC-approved viewpoint, so you’d expect a more positive outlook.

I don’t think Shearman means the show as a whole is dead. It’s clearly not and he knows that (although it is possibly on life-support).

As for “Tennant is back, so Piper can now return” type comments, that may now be how things eventuate. But it’s not part of some masterplan – remember that Tennant only agreed to step in because Gatwa wasn’t available for the filming of the 60th. And Piper stepped in because Gatwa wanted to leave early.  So, we are maybe now going to go down that Bille vs David path but driven by external circumstances rather than RTDs original plan or any kind of in-show narrative. It’s happened before.

My biggest concern with all this is that the show will end up eating itself due to constant self-referencing. The RT said, “I think Doctor Who nostalgia is something to be celebrated.” Agreed, up to a point. But that’s not the way to attract a new audience, a new generation of fans, and that could ultimately lead to the show’s demise. Maybe I’m being pessimistic, but there are parallels with the late Classic era. It would be an interesting aside if RTD is the one to re-start the show and also be the one to cause its demise, with Billie Piper as its bookends. Hope not.

[WhoHar @whohar]

And some potentially positive news about one (some) missing episodes, in this podcast:

https://missingepisodes.podbean.com/

Light on details but seems to suggest there is at least one Classic Who ep out there, ready for restoration.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@whohar

continuity… may well alienate more new fans than it attracts. But it is a 60+ year show; 50 years active. It’s more of a question of what you do with it: Cartmel wanted it to be less ‘roll out a classic monster’ and more about The Doctor himself: man of mystery revealed, not mad man in a box, that phrase itself being Moff’s deflection of the question.

I don’t buy the ‘14 + 16 are accidents caused by Gatwa being noncommittal superstar’ theory. If they have said something like that it’s because ‘they’ don’t want to reveal… whatever it is.

So, a bunch of hacks have been chucked off the gravy train for a few months. More interested in when and what The Corp is actually doing… cos continuity is a big problem for them too: ‘but we don’t want you to DO that! When did it ever make sense anyway?’

The holy grail of lost shows must be Fury from the Deep or Evil of The Daleks. Fingers crossed.

[WhoHar @whohar]

@ps1l0v3y0u

The holy grail of lost shows must be Fury from the Deep or Evil of The Daleks. Fingers crossed.

Either would be great. Anything that either completes, or is a complete Troughton story would be welcome. But…if I have to pick a single episode, then I’d go for part 4 of The Tenth Planet.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

 

@whohar

So now Peter Purves is at it!

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-peter-purves-modern-series-newsupdate/

Is this the narrative? Is someone seeding the narrative? First a guy who wrote one (rather good) canon story and moonlighted on some other bits and pieces, now a companion from the distant past who ‘no longer watches the show.’ How long has that been, Peter?
Is it that there’s no such thing as bad publicity? Is someone dressing ‘the gammon’ to keep controversy going? Or is this briefing against the show?

[WhoHar @whohar]

@ps1l0v3y0u

Is someone seeding the narrative?

It certainly is odd timing to have two similar-toned stories so close together.

I notice from the link you sent that Purvis had said something similar in an RT article a few months ago but it wasn’t reported with the same slant. Headline writers (normally sub-editors) produce a headline that doesn’t always reflect what the article actually says. This is often deliberate, in order to put the reader in the “correct” frame of mind prior to them reading the article. It is therefore often instructive to read the article without the headline if you can. All that said, Purvis does seem critical, noting that in the other article I mentioned, he says he’s not watched it since Pertwee (!) as he wasn’t a fan of the England (Earth) -based stories.

There appears to have been more Who “news” in the last couple of weeks compared to the previous couple of months. Unlikely to be coincidence.

Something is definitely afoot as they say. Someone briefing against Russ is my guess. If I am right, I’d also guess whomever it is wants him out.

[janetteB @janetteb]

@ps1l0v3y0u Yes it does seem like clickbait rather than news. I suspect it is just that, something to fill a page, get Who fans to read in the hope they notice the adds on the side.

cheers

Janette

[janetteB @janetteb]

@whohar that seems quite likely. I would say that the BBC feel that RTD has not delivered the series saving coup that they were hoping for and they are fumbling in the dark right now for any way to keep their cash cow afloat. I don’t have much faith in whatever decision they make right now but will keep fingers crossed because I am a stubborn optimist.

cheers

Janette

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@janetteb @whohar

On the face of it, it’s SO ridiculous, you might think it’s noise or a wind up.

Then you remember: Greenland, ‘Dictator’ Zelensky, Gaza Vegas On Med… Piers Morgan on BBC Breakfast explaining why everyone who disagrees with him is s fascist. Cheers Piers, the scales have well and truly fallen from my eyes.

[Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent]

@janetteb  @whohar  @ps1l0v3y0u    Just what is the relevance of Peter Purves?   (Aside from being a ‘Doctor Who legend’ according to the article).   The world is full of guys who worked on [something]   x decades ago, who would love to cash in on their past association.       Here’s the link Radio Times gave, by the way:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/doctor-who-legend-doesnt-like-36085688

The world is also full of journalists who want to make a sensation out of anything.   As janetteb said, clickbait.

“When Doctor Who started it was a children’s programme, we had a weekly cliffhanger and it was simple.”   Well yes, and if it had stayed that way I doubt if any of us would be here.   The world is also full of people – including fans – who want the next series to be ‘just like the last one, but new’.

(I wonder if I could ring up some journalist on some dull news day and get a headline  “Dentarthurdent doesn’t like Star Trek”?)

According to the Daily Star  (is that a real paper?   I’ve never heard of it)  “Peter is teaming up with fellow Doctor Who legends Colin Baker and Tom Baker for his next project. The trio are starring together in a production of A Christmas Carol.  It’s a radio play that sees Peter play Charles Dickens while Colin is Ebenezer Scrooge and Tom is Jacob Marley. They’re touring the country from November 7 with shows in Shrewsbury, Dorking, Crawley and Winchester.”

The article ends with ‘And he is even up for returning to Doctor Who for a cameo if he’s asked. He said: “I would love a cameo. But it won’t happen.”’     I think he might be right about that, now.

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[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent @janetteb @janetteb

I think we’re in agreement! But this WAS in The Radio Times… which may be nominally independent of The BBC but I haven’t really absorbed that erm fact (ie I don’t believe it).

The Daily Star is an actual… comic! Um… Red Top. I thought of looking up ridiculous headlines created by them (celebrities eating hamsters, Dorniers on the Moon, that kind of thing) but it turned out that was another bunch of lying hacks. The only thing you might know is the lettuce vs Liz Truss feature.

Unfortunately, we don’t know where The Corp will be in five years time, let alone ten. I’m afraid DW has been sceduled for offloading if not demolition since 2014 and The Corp are finding it a torturous process.

People who can only name Baker T or Tennant, or haven’t watched the show since Leela followed on from the football results, are annoying. I wonder how many of them there really are.

[WhoHar @whohar]

@dentarthurdent @janetteb

@ps1l0v3y0u

This is the problem when there is no real news from the BBC, or anyone y’know actually connected to the show, something always steps in to fill the void.

Nature Journalism abhors a vacuum.

“Peter is teaming up with fellow Doctor Who legends Colin Baker and Tom Baker for his next project. The trio are starring together in a production of A Christmas Carol.  It’s a radio play that sees Peter play Charles Dickens while Colin is Ebenezer Scrooge and Tom is Jacob Marley. They’re touring the country from November 7 with shows in Shrewsbury, Dorking, Crawley and Winchester.”

I have lots of questions about this and, given it’s the Star, a shovel full of salt is needed. 1. Why are they touring a radio play? 2. Tom Baker is 91 – good on him if he can still tour but it seems somewhat unlikely. 3. A fairly niche selection of venues to tour – and I say that as someone who has intimate knowledge of one of those places – so why there? 4. Bit of a stretch to call Purvis a Dr Who legend, isn’t it? He’s better known for Blue Peter.

I guess we should probably ignore all these minor press outbursts, but where’s the fun in that? That said, it doesn’t really sate my hunger for some actual Who news.

[Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent]

@ps1l0v3y0u    @janetteb   @whohar

Yes I did wonder about the Daily Star.   Would it be unkind to compare it to those well-known organs the Weekly World News and the Onion?

I did wonder a bit about performing a ‘radio play’ on stage, maybe it was some sort of misquote and the play is about three actors voicing a radio play?   And I also wondered about the slightly bizarre selection of venues.  Dorking?  Seriously?

Anyway, I quoted it because it mentions two Doctors.   I note that Radio Times’ version of the same article doesn’t mention them.   I’m guessing that some freelance journalist (or maybe Peter Purves) conducted a longer interview and then sold it to as many outlets as he could, or is that not how journalism works?   (I really don’t know).

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent @whohar @janetteb

The Star (UK) has been trashing credulity whilst exhibiting female anatomy since 1978.

Paul McGann had a go at Tennant as well recently.

I suppose we need the War Between Land And Sea before we can really judge what’s happening. Is there a delay there… any news?

 

[blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave]

It appears I have been MIA. Guilty as charged. Good to see the site is still thriving. Came across this (and hope it has not already been posted).

Ford Talks Cut “Doctor Who” Finale Scene

 

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@blenkinsopthebrave @whohar @dentarthurdent @janetteb

Welcome back!

This is one of several links to the story

https://cultbox.co.uk/general/carole-ann-ford-describes-unused-doctor-who-finale-scene

all these seem to come with their own interpretations.

I just note there seems to be a lot of activity. Presaging an announcement perhaps?

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent

re Dorking… the place name is ancient and distinctive, indicating the Anglo Saxon settlement of Dork’s people which, as I have explained to my daughter on Wimbledon Station, should not be confused with the place of Woke’s people, or you will find yourself on the wrong train.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent @blenkinsopthebrave @whohar @janetteb

The Christmas Carol tour of southern Britain is real! Both Bakers & Peter ‘kid show’ Purves. But I’m sure none of them object to plugging their show…

But both the Shearman and Ford stories… and Millie Gibson too? Is this all actually the ultimate tease?

Bear with me… some bonkers theorising: two more two season RTD batches coming. One ends on the 65th anniversary of the show: 23rd is a Thursday, been done before. The next will end on December 6th 2031… a Saturday… the anniversary of The Ultimate Foe.

Timelords on Trial?

[Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent]

@ps1l0v3y0u     Still a bizarre selection of venues.   Shrewsbury, Dorking, Crawley and Winchester.   (I had to look up where Crawley was, I had an idea it was somewhere near Woking  🙂    Maybe it’s where theatres can be hired at a reasonable price.

Umm, Crawley.   Name rings a bell.   He was the demon in Neil Gaiman’s ‘Good Omens’, played on TV by none other than – David Tennant.   Coincidences keep happening…

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent

I forgot about Shrewsbury… that’s off the beaten track. The rest are in ‘far-back brokerland’: all well attended provincial theatres. I only mentioned Woking to further possible Dorks vs Wokes humour. Though Woking also has a nice theatre.

But they are real shows. So yes, lots of coincidences happening. Now it’s the National Association of Anti Been Fulminators being played.

My guess is an announcement on Oct 30th, Nov 6th, 13th or 20th (50th anniversary of Deadly Assassin… I just watched it, matrix based), Nov 23rd (the big anniversary), the 29th or Dec 6th (40th anniversary of Ultimate Foe… also matrix based)

Chew on that!

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent

Sorry, the 40th anniversary of UF, and 50th anniversary of DA, is NEXT year of course. Maybe we’re gonna be inundated with rumour and bitchin for the whole of the coming year.

Though 29th Nov and 6th Dec are Sundays. If they did feel up to springing a pre xmas short season.

Ruby Sunday anyone?

[camdudetenger2018 @camdudetenger2018]

i thought there would be new news about doctor who 2023 season 3

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@camdudetenger2018

Does the apparent negativity from Shearman, Purves, Gibson & Ford indicate something’s about to be announced…? I suspect so.
If Carol Ann Ford is harking back to unseen clips from Reality War, and Gibson grousing about spoilers, while Shearman and Purves make… uncharacteristically unclassy comment, is this actually the trolls being baited?

So yes… I’ll be a bit disappointed if we don’t hear something shortly.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

Also… last thoughts… wishful thinking… Carol Ann Ford’s description of these unused scenes… do you think there’s any chance at all another episode was recorded back to back with ‘Reality War’?

[TranslatorCircuit @translatorcircuit]

BAD NEWS! Another gap for Doctor Who. I know some people will think it’s good, though. https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-future-confirmed-bbc-disney-newsupdate/

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@translatorcircuit

OK. A similar gap to that between Hell Bent and Mysterio. Without Husbands. Better than an inbox full of trolls. Maybe we’ll get a proper 12 ep season to follow!

Homer: ‘Maybe there’ll be ice-cream!’

[TranslatorCircuit @translatorcircuit]

BBC Executive1: “How can we make the fans accept yet another gap in Doctor Who?”

BBC Executive2: “Let’s spread a rumour that it’s dead and buried. We’ll let them believe this for about five months, then they’ll be grateful for ANYTHING!”

BBC Executive1: “BRILLIANT!”

https://share.pix.video/video/367710523808898

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@translatorcircuit

Yeah. Obvs I (faintly) hoped they’d banked some extra stuff for something sooner… or that there might be some anniversary for 2026. Just my 27-28 and 30-31 season theory left. 26 would be better for DA & UF anniversaries. But the actual dates might work for 31.

Yes, McGann, Gibson, Ford, Shearman and Purves had been roped in to big it up.

[WhoHar @whohar]

@ps1l0v3y0u

@translatorcircuit

At last some real news! And it’s about as positive as it’s going to get right now.

I see also that TWBtLatS will be shown later this year; looking like Disney want out quickly. But hopefully this will be shown around Christmas this year.

Still, lots of unresolved questions:

So RTD2 is going to write the Christmas special. Is this a case of “you need to fix this Billie Piper stuff before you go Russ” or will he / BadWolf be given the gig full time? Hopefully it is the former – the show needs fresh blood.

What happens to the episodes currently on Disney+ ?

And the big one: what is Billie Piper’s role going to be? I read a theory that her character is kind of a cipher for the Doc, and she has appeared due to some side-effect of the bi-generation. The thought being that her character and 14 will ultimately merge to produce 16. I can see this working as a one-off special.

Presumably, if it is something like the above, we should start to see a lot of speculation over the casting from, well, about now. Fire up the tabloids!!

And the big, big question – can this site produce enough bonkers theorising and speculation to fill the gap to December 2026. <looks away coquettishly>

[camdudetenger2018 @camdudetenger2018]

i heard that doctor who parted way from disney

[Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent]

@camdudetenger2018    Yeah, see the link in Translatorcircuit’s post.

@translatorcircuit  @ps1l0v3y0u  @whohar

“However, Kate Phillips, chief content officer at the BBC, previously said the show will continue on the BBC “with or without” Disney.   She said at this year’s Edinburgh TV Festival: “Any Whovians out there, rest assured – Doctor Who is going nowhere.”

‘Going nowhere’ – what a curiously ambiguous turn of phrase  🙂

[WhoHar @whohar]

@dentarthurdent @camdudetenger2018 @translatorcircuit  @ps1l0v3y0u

 

‘Going nowhere’ – what a curiously ambiguous turn of phrase

Yes agreed. I think a previous post actually said “Rest assured, the TARDIS is going nowhere” which is even better / worse.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent @camdudetenger2018 @translatorcircuit @whohar

major points

1. BP… short term fix? Then why the bi generation? And how did Ecclestone know? It was coming.

2. Did the BBC NEED a streaming partner in the first place? I’ve theorised it was a long term ambition… starting 2015. Maybe they now realise they c*cked up. Or they hope the show will literally just go away. But they’ve just had a big review of their goals which seemed to say ‘keep on keeping on.’

Maybe there’s still someone else out there saying ‘show us your special moves!’ Apple can make Severance…

3. RTD shot his bolt? He must be able to say ‘I need a longer season to make it work.’ I would hope he’s won the creative decisions battle: no more griping about continuity or Cartmel 2.0. BUT the Disney era does by definition look like a fail; they were either going to renew or not. Built in redundancy.

4. Who else? Chib got the gig on the back of… frankly dull as ditch water Broadchurch. No surprise how that turned out. The old guard: Gatiss and Whithouse/Matthieson must still be dabbing their fingers with Savlon.

Who out there could really shake it up? Don’t have to be a fan. You wanted bonkers…

David Tennant/Michael Sheen?? Jed Mercurio?? Phoebe Waller Bridge?? Ben Stiller???

 

[camdudetenger2018 @camdudetenger2018]

there are so many theorys now about doctor who 2005 season 16 post disney era like what will happen to the show now who is now the new doctor and does rose really return

[WhoHar @whohar]

@dentarthurdent @camdudetenger2018 @translatorcircuit

@ps1l0v3y0u

Who out there could really shake it up? Don’t have to be a fan

I think not being a fan should be in the job description for the next showrunner or, at least, someone who’s not been involved in the show before. Someone who is sympathetic but not overly in thrall of continuity. I don’t know who I’d pick. And, while this might seem contradictory, there are a lot of good stories coming out of Big Finish, so the BBC could do worse than going to that well.

And, all that said, I don’t think the BBC are now able to pick up the phone and pick-and-choose who the next writer/showrunner will be. Who as a show is damaged goods right now, and then there’s questions about budget (presumably a lot lower than it has been on Disney and maybe even lower than the Whittaker era, due to overall budget constraints within the Corporation), and also control. Who controls Who? Is it still the BBC, or is it Bad Wolf?

All these things will matter to any incoming showrunner, especially if they are a name.

Actually, if I could pick, I’d go with Tony Gilroy, the Andor showrunner.

[TranslatorCircuit @translatorcircuit]

I hate this latest plan of a FOURTEEN MONTH GAP until the next Doctor Who episode! I wonder if the World might end or I might die before then. I hope other people on here understand how I feel.

Also, I don’t think Russell T Davies should be allowed to write the Christmas Special for 2026, because he’s made enough mess already! His writing was great in the early days of NuWho, but nothing like as good in the Disney+ era. Specific things that shouldn’t have been featured were goblins, babies, fairies, and Imperial or US measurements such as the title “73 Yards”, as well as other occurrences of these measurements I’ve tried to forget.

My plans for the near future include getting KDAN PDF Reader to read various Doctor Who novels aloud to me, as well as to listen to as many Big Finish recordings, and watch as many fan films as possible!

[Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent]

@translatorcircuit    I tend to agree with you that goblins and babies are better left to fantasy.

But ’73 yards’?   Lighten up.  I assume you’re in the UK (correct me if I’m wrong) but don’t they still use Miles?   I’m in New Zealand, we went metric 40 years ago but I’m still bilingual (or should that be binumeral?).   The US and Canada still use feet and miles, aviation still universally uses altitude in thousands of feet, and knots ffs, what is the point in being deliberately obscurantist about units a substantial part of the world uses?

(The one unit I will not use is that one beloved of TV reporters, ‘football fields’, and its volumetric equivalent ‘Olympic swimming pools’.   So far as I know those have never been properly defined and since I never watch either football (of any sort) or swimming races, they leave me completely clueless as to the unit being referred to.   A ‘cricket pitch’, on the other hand, I know is 22 yards or 66 feet or a chain, so I’m OK with that, but I still feel that’s a bad unit as many people don’t follow cricket.   Just as well they never use cricket grounds).

 

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@translatorcircuit @dentarthurdent

Happy that we have a show. Quite happy that misinformation stirred up all the trolls and bots. Not that it had that much effect on the ‘where’s the bloke luv?’ brigade.

It IS a long gap. Just realised that 2026 is not just the anniversary of Deadly Assassin and Ultimate Foe but of the first regeneration… I hope that’s NOT significant for Billie. Maybe the DA/UF link was a bit obvious. But I obviously hoped there might be a bit more coming next year (and, if you hadn’t guessed, I got quite excited for a moment).

Goblins, babies, singing and dancing, taking the Stupid Sutekh dog for a walk… see I don’t mind all that (that much) so long as there’s a reason: an arc, if you like. The Mavity Thing. Also, eps 3-6 (2024) & 2-7 (2025) were good. I really can’t fathom some of the criticism.

But obviously the elements that people didn’t like were there because of Disney. And they were there because of Whovian Kidultism; ‘Where are the Daleks?’ is and always will be irrelevant. So, with Disney gone, will the Mavity Arc continue? If the Xmas special is not going to be RTD’s swansong, you’d think he would have to resolve it.

BUT the Corp will continue to struggle to fund the program. They must realise their earlier creative interference AND The Disney experiment were shocking errors, but they are still under pressure so the can has just been kicked down the road; the gammon trolls and culture war bots have dug in now. Like any bunch of populist chancers, they only have to win once and we, the fans, lose the show, whether it nominally continues in some form or not.

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Meanwhile, in The Grauniad:

Doctor Who lives on! But who will be the new Time Lord – and is it goodbye to Russell T Davies? | Doctor Who | The Guardian

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@iskrat

Oo r yer oo r yer oor yer oo r yer?

c’along iskrat! You turn up unannounced and disturb my good friend’s generally colonial rest! 4 would call that rude.

Merely a Culture War Bot I suspect. There IS no one out there…

If anyone’s fault it’s The Corp but they’ve only been played like us all. Though they inflicted Chib on us…

How to name and shame bots?

Sorry, I react to meta and there’s more gammon there than the entire world’s nonkosher agrarian economy could muster. iskrat may be as fragrant and charming as Miss Piggy, but I doubt it.

What do we do?

Transmission from 4 out.

[iskrat @iskrat]

Nah… I’m a breather… Well, for now, at least.

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