• @Barnable – Oh I like your ideas for the Twelfth Doctor; I too want him to be quite different from the more recent Doctors (that being said though, the Ninth was pretty different to the Tenth and Eleventh). But yes, a more serious Doctor I am hoping for too, and I hope the main focus is finding Gallifrey… very interested in knowing what the Time…[Read more]

  • ScaryB replied to the topic The Faces of the Doctor

    I actually love the multiverse theory, it’s just that my brain has problems conceptualising it for more than 5 seconds without exploding! I can just about keep hold of the idea that we (the viewers) follow the Doctor’s trail as he jumps timestreams/miniverses, so we may be aware of occasional anomalies but there is a consistency in that we follow…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Faces of the Doctor

    There, @Bluesqueakpip, you see? I knew I could rely on you.  (salutes)  And I find it interesting, now that we look at TGWW  in light of this discussion, that not only are there two time streams running parallel, but that they remain collided (or perhaps re-collide?) after the initial POD (like the acronym, @Barnable!). Because we don’t no…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Faces of the Doctor

    @Barnable   After the end zone dance, I believe that the appropriate action is for your teammate to start pounding you on the helmet. Consider this done.

    I should clarify that I have never spoken to an actual physicist! The Family Members are hobbyists only, but they are constantly talking about physics, math, chemistry, and computer t…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Faces of the Doctor

    @Barnable   @Bluesqueakpip

    I have read a bit about multiverse theory, because my Family Members are both interested in physics and talk about it all the time at the dinner table. I usually just smile and nod, and look things up later. 🙂 But my understanding of multiverse theory, which is apparently the latest and greatest thing that for some p…[Read more]

  • ScaryB replied to the topic The Faces of the Doctor

    @DrSmith

    Could River Song have had a few off screen adventures with Tennant’s Doctor(s) or do you think they were planned but Tennant left before the episodes could have been made?

    My personal theory is that River has had offscreen adventures with all the Doctors from Tennant onwards – well maybe not Ten, or Eleven would remember – but definitely…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Faces of the Doctor

    @Barnable

    I think a second time line was created as a solution to the paradox.

    Um…. the universe was rebooted? There’s no paradox because it’s an entirely new universe (which happens to look very like the old one). Technically, I suppose that would be two time lines. In one, the universe ended on the eve of Amy’s wedding. In the other, the…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Next Doctor (2)

    @Barnable  @purofilion  @Doctorhow    Interesting. I’m not sure if it has been suggested before that the doctor actually changed his past in tWoRS. I think it’s usually assumed that he was always in the Tesselecta, faking regeneration. But I guess if we are assuming the two-timestream scenario in some cases, it’s open season on all the others.  🙂

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Day of the Doctor

    @Barnable     I think the most important thing is just to find an explanation for ourselves that will allow us to still enjoy the episodes and not feel ripped off.

    Agreed. This is why I also subscribe to the “create your own canon” school of fandom. Although if something in my personal canon is flatly contradicted by the show, I will usually, if…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Day of the Doctor

    @Barnable – yes, Amy and Rory not getting stuck in the past would have meant that Clara was never a Companion. It’s a major change.

    Basically, the reason the Doctor is in Victorian England in the first place is that he’s in mourning for Amy, Rory and possibly River.

    If they hadn’t died, he wouldn’t have had an extended stay there; would never…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Day of the Doctor

    @Barnable

    But the first time line is not completely pointless because it still happened and created the second time line.

    It’s not pointless at all! The Smith Doctor said: “Gentlemen, I’ve had 400 years to think about this…”

    If Gallifrey had never been destroyed, there wouldn’t have been anything to think about. He wouldn’t have gone through…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Day of the Doctor

    @Barnable

    But the doctors themselves agree that they will not be able to remember, both the War Doctor and Ten say it specifically. So I really don’t think there’s any question of them remembering it on the second time line, unless they were wrong when they said it. But I would expect the Doctor to know how these things work.

    Also, on an…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Next Doctor (2)

    @Barnable      I like the idea of a little Doctor/companion conflict, and it wouldn’t even have to be a case of the Doctor being unlikeable. It could just be a personality clash, a case of pushing each other’s buttons. I could see this working really well with Clara, as she is a perky, bossy sort who had a great dynamic with the Eleventh Doct…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Time of The Doctor

    @Barnable
    I don’t have any objections to the Mystery Lady being the Doctor’s mum, either. As you say – he has to have one.

    We also know that the Time Lords were bringing people back from the dead (like the Master) to fight in the Time War. So, no reason it couldn’t be his Mum.

    As to her opposing Rassilon: I’ve always thought that the Doctor’s…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Day of the Doctor

    @Brewski, @Barnable and @Arbutus – with regard to The Woman In The Shop, my personal theory is that it was Sarah Jane Smith. Who ‘recognised’ Clara because she’d also seen the photos of Clara and the Smith Doctor in various situations in the past. So she gave this younger Clara the TARDIS phone number, making sure that she did meet up with the…[Read more]

  • Brewski replied to the topic The Day of the Doctor

    @Barnable Trying to answer, how Bad Wolf gave the number to Clara?, as “The woman in the shop”,  might unravel the whole two time lines.   We should have got the answer before the old time line ended, if Bad Wolf did it.  So now I’m going to have to change my mind on that (apologies @Brewski ) and search for another possible “woman in the sh…

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  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Day of the Doctor

    @Brewski  @purofilion  @Barnable

    Interesting speculation, all of this. In my opinion, this is the biggest strand still hanging from the Impossible Girl arc; at least, it’s the one that bugs me the most!

    My first thought was that The Moment as The Woman in the Shop made a lot of sense. But @Barnable‘s point is well taken. From a “story-arc” p…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Next Doctor (2)

    @Barnable  Here as promised, my thoughts about your theory regarding the doctor’s memories. I’m interested in the idea that the doctor’s memory loss might somehow connect to the shifting of timelines (although that is somewhat negated when one remembers that for the doctor, several hundred years passes between the events of DotD and the…[Read more]

  • Arjay replied to the topic The Next Doctor (2)

    @Barnable   Yeah, and I worked that episode into my personal theory. Arbutus and I turned out to have similar thoughts that surrounding events can factor into what kind of personality The Doctor will next regen into. After all, he has always turned out to be just the right kind of Doctor to face all he had to. And to that end, I theorized that…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Next Doctor (2)

    Oh dear, a re-invigorated @barnable! That might just blow my head right off.  😯  This sentence: “As you know, I support the theory of two coexisting time lines leading up to TotD” made me wonder, do we ever listen to ourselves on this forum? I have written sentences that I would never have dreamed I would use in rational conversation.

    So, do y…[Read more]

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