@Barnable – I surrender.

🙂

actually, weird as it seems (and believe me, what I’m about to say is as much a shock to me as it will be to you) I now understand what you’re getting at.

I’ll blame the headcold for not getting it up till now, and the lack of alcohol in my bloodstream for finally getting it!

I LIKE IT!

and entities that dont…[Read more]

@Nick @purofilion @barnable

If “Bad Wolf” has become something other than what @Nick has described, then it is because Moffat has retconned it that way, not because it was intended that way initially. This is not out of the question, of course, as we know! However, I’m personally disinclined to assume that something previously established has…[Read more]

@Barnable

Hi there. I think I see the difference between our point of views now:

 Both of these time lines existed at the same time, until we get to TotD.  I believe that the time line we all watched happen (the “BRB” was pressed time line) came to an end in tTotD episode.  That time line merged into a single time line after TotD episode wh…[Read more]

@Barnable Whoa, whoa, easier! I’m not arguing with you, I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate – someone who is criticizes other theories to make their authors find more proof and expand them to make the theories perfect. That’s all) And your theory is very nice (we haven’t got good timeline riddles in “Doctor Who” for a while), but you really lack…[Read more]

@Barnable

Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought the War Doctor got his memory replaced to think that he destroyed the TLs and Daleks and thus do not f*ck the timeline up (since Tenth and Eleventh didn’t know about TLs being alive, he couldn’t keep this knowledge). So, I think, timeline is still in place. I think, we have more interesting thing to…[Read more]

@Barnable

🙂 I think we agree on that, but probably not on how you interpret what happened as a result.

Cheers

Nick

@Barnable

Both myself and @Bluesqueakpip have written blog posts explaining how we think DotD changed the Doctor’s timeline. Bluesqueakpip’s opinion (which is generally accepted on here I think) is that is definitely a change from “Gallifrey destroyed” to “Gallifrey disappears”, which occurs during and as a result of DofD. My own view differs in…[Read more]

@purofilion @barnable

One question/observation for you both. First a proviso – since I haven’t read any fan discussion around what “Bad Wolf” has been interpreted to be, I may be about to shoot myself in the foot with this !

I may be mis-interpreting what you’ve written (it wouldn’t be my first time) but I it looks to me that you’re arguing th…[Read more]

@purofilion @Barnable @Bluesqueakpip @blenkinsopthebrave @arbutus

Hi there. This makes interesting reading, but I’m not sure quite how you could make it work in practice. From what I saw in DotD, the Moment was a small box whose sentient AI system appeared to the potential user [Hurt Doctor] alone. I’m not quite how the best describe the how (but…[Read more]

@Barnable     Nicely complex theorizing. I had to re-read a couple of times as the brain is only just back online after a week’s worth of nasty cold. I’m not sure it entirely works for me, but a great place for people to bounce new ideas from!

I like @FatManInABox‘s suggestion that the sentient part of the Moment might exist separately from the…[Read more]

@Barnable – no problem. I never thought you intended to offend. Given that the Papal Mainframe plays a fairly major role in Time of The Doctor, discussions and theories are quite likely to stray into the area of religion. 😉

@barnable @brewski

enjoying the bonkers theories!

when I’m less distracted I gotta re-re-read and figure out if they spark anything (other than grins) in my dim dim brain.

🙂

OOOH! Great discussion.

Nicely bonkers theory @Barnable @FatManInaBox

However, I think it makes it just too complicated (yeah, I know!) to bring in the Moment like that, tho anything’s possible.

When the cracks first appeared, the Doctor explained them as being like (wrong) folds in the fabric of space and time, which meant that 2 places in…[Read more]

@Barnable

As other others have commented, that is some theory!

While I am attracted to the way it hangs together, I have a lingering hesitiation, based on one thing–the way Moffat writes. I tend to think Moffat references himself first and foremost. While he may draw on the ideas of other writers, he tends, I think to use those ideas to his own…[Read more]

@Barnable – great theory!

Can I just drop in for a moment to correct a misapprehension?

Tasha Lem and the Papal Mainframe could have been wrong. If the PM is a religious order, then we can assume that it is based on faith.

Perfectly reasonable assumption – in fact, you’re making a faith-based assumption right there. 😀

There’s a…[Read more]

Right @barnable i love your theory but could i take an aspect  even further you theorised that the moment is the time vortex , well we do know there are beings supposedly more powerful and older than the  TL`s  namely I’m referring to pre time war DW in the respect to the black and white guardians. Also there are theories out there that propose th…[Read more]

@Barnable – agree with @FatManInABox that the Doctor was very, very firm about no blowing up of planets until everyone left alive and unconverted was in the one room.

Given that he knows the Empire’s policy with regard to blowing-up-of-planets, he may well have known that the Emperor setting off the bomb triggered an automatic rescue.

If he…[Read more]

@Barnable @CedarBranchTardis

Re Daleks – we’ve seen them developing throughout the 50 year run of the show. They are driven by hate and obsessed with being the only force in the universe. The Time Lords are what stands in their way. The Doctor has stopped them on several occasions; particularly in the T Baker story Genesis, when he was sent back…[Read more]

@Nick @purofilion @barnable @blenkinsopthebrave @bluesqueakpip

I’m sure that @Bluesqueakpip is right that the time lords didn’t know until Clara’s return that the Doctor had used up his regenerations. However, they did have some time between that conversation and when they actually got the job done. Viewing it from a storytelling perspective,…[Read more]

@purofilion @barnable @blenkinsopthebrave @bluesqueakpip @arbutus

I’m with Blenkinsopthebrave on the cracks. I think the Doctor said (paraphrasing) that the cracks remained as points of weaknesses which in the rebooted universe after he restored it and that the Timelords (being outside the universe) were using these weakness to get back inside…[Read more]