• Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @jphamlore

    the Matrix …  It needs an agent to go out there and explore. It needs a Doctor

    Interesting idea. The Doctor did tell Clara that the Sliders talked to him when he went into it as Matrix in his youth, though he was referring to himself in the third person when he did so, and spoke as if it was a matter of hearsay.

    @Bluesqueakpip

    the Ti…

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  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @soundworld

    I presume (uh-oh!) they’ve been exiled without access t0 time-machines (since they’re safely stored on Gallifrey, right?

    There is always the possibility that Rassilon has an ally or two still on Gallifrey – people who managed to keep their heads down and avoid notice, so that they escaped being evicted.  Such an ally might be able t…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @pedant

    As it happens I had to go into the city to get some more paper for my printer, so I took the opportunity to pop into one of the local bookshops and do a bit of browsing.

    The legends include aliens and some travellers in time and space (not Time Lords) who have rather peculiar ideas about what constitutes an entertaining reality show,…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Morpho

    where are we on who the hybrid is?

    Moffat is on record as saying that what he writes is a lot simpler and more straightforward than some people choose to see it (people like us, for instance), and what he wrote here certainly pointed to it being the Doctor+Clara, even though he trailed other possibilities and he has been known to lie or…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @puroandson

    a control freak race

    What a wonderfully apt description of the Time Lords!  It is no wonder that the thought of a maverick like the Doctor roaming loose around the universe so worries and exasperates them, even without their suspicion that he is withholding vital information.

    And yes, the experience may have pushed him into a kind of…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @tardigrade

    The truth about the hybrid was, I think, far less important than the fact that the prophecy had seriously worried the Time Lords. Their fear would have been compounded by the knowledge that whatever the Doctor had learned when he ventured into the Cloister as a young man had scared him so badly that he ran. We were told that the…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @ichabod    I’m not sure where that query before your tag came from, but things were shifting about rather oddly when I was doing the formatting.

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    ?@ichabod

    there is one real thing in there with him: when the Veil steps outside after him, it collapses into empty cloth and cog-wheels.

    I’ll have to watch that again to be sure, but I think that it then faded and disappeared, just as the shimmering outline of the wall persisted for a few moments and then shrank to nothing.  I took this to be…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic The Fox Inn

    @blenkinsopthebrave  @puroandson   Bex as a brand name was, as far as I am aware, unknown in the UK. but we did have the equivalent generic APC tablets in our medicine cabinet when I was young.  Nobody took it on a regular basis, but I remember one occasion in particular when I had recourse to it.  Some time previously I had broken a molar so badl…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @puroandson  @morpho

    Simulation theory of the universe, yup.  We could be figments in a universe which is just a vast and complex computer simulation being run by … what?  😮   Fun idea, no?

    Which is what I have been suggesting the castle in the confession dial was on a small scale – except that the Doctor in the dial wasn’t a figme…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    Further to my post above and earlier post #49230, I think that the events of Face the Raven/Heaven Sent/Hell Bent could be seen as the culmination of the very long game which Missy has been playing, starting with her ‘matchmaking’ between the Doctor and Clara; her dual object being to induce the Doctor to abandon the code by which he has always…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Morpho

    As regards the relationship between Mayor Me and the Time Lords, I think that Missy, with her access to a means of time travel and her knowledge of the whereabouts of Gallifrey, was probably acting as go between in the events leading up to Trap Street.  As I said in comments on Heaven Sent, there are indications that Me may have had…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @puroandson  @morpho

    Re the trajectory of the confession dial.

    Let us assume, as a reasonable hypothesis, that Missy was indeed involved in the plot to entrap the Doctor. Rather than escaping from Gallifrey, she was allowed to do so by Rassilon and the High Council after Gallifrey had returned to the normal universe, the condition of her r…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)

    @puroandson

    Do I have any Christmas-viewing shows which I routinely pull out?

    The short answer to that is, no.  In the run-up to Christmas I usually have to much to do to have time for more than an hour or so TV watching in the evening, if that; and if there isn’t anything on that evening which appeals, then I catch up on programmes which I …[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Arbutus

    So Raiders of the Lost Ark supplies cred for archaeologists 😯

    Well, if I had taken Indiana Jones or River for role models*, my career would certainly have taken a very different course 🙂

    * I would have needed a Tardis or a vortex manipulator to do so, or else uncanny foresight, but that is a minor detail.

     

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @puroandson  (Son)

    When you realise he’s known clara for years -all those hundreds of years of trenzalore she really has been in his life for longer than anyone

    And more important to him and more thoroughly embedded in the Doctor’s mind and hearts than any previous companion. So I agree that the story of their parting needed to be equally extraor…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @puroandson

    eerm excuse me I say: I mentioned the perception filter first didn’t we boy?

    😳  grovelling apologies. I must have missed the post in which you did so.

    *sigh*  So many posts, so little time to read them all – and I’m not a fast reader.

    So it’s a case of two minds, and all that.  The idea came to me independently of you or @Whisht[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Arbutus @ichabod    .

    Did anyone notice that the Doctor, on being ordered to “lay down your weapons”, dropped his spoon to the table?

    Me too 🙂  that was a detail which leapt out at me on first viewing, and I grinned. Even Robot of Sherwood has its resonances.

    Before that, I also enjoyed the double meaning of his response to Clara in the din…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Bluesqueakpip

    I’m not sure that our interpretations are all that far apart, and maybe I didn’t express my ideas very well.  I do think, though, that it is unlikely that all trace of Clara, who was threaded through his whole timeline since he first left Gallifrey, and had been a hugely important part of two of his lives, could be completely r…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @CountScarlioni

    Once the Doctor, assuming he truly did not remember Clara in the diner scene, got back into his own Tardis, would he not immediately search the Tardis’s data banks for “Clara” and recover at least some of the lost memories? For him, it’s surely only a temporary loss of some memories. Have I missed something? Is there somethi…

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