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Just to clear things up a bit. Pre-End of Time War Gallifrey was time-locked, Post-Time War Gallifrey was in a pocket universe. However, the effect should still be the same in either of the scenario, that Gallifrey should be physically inaccessible.

I’ve rewatched the episode and this statement was repeated a couple of times: that the TARDIS is slaved to Clara’s timeline. I think that right there is the solution to the Gallifrey problem: Clara’s timeline. Thanks to most of the posters here because I almost forgot that Clara, or at least one of her selves, was able to travel to a time-locked Gallifrey when she enters The Doctor’s time scar. I don’t know why I didn’t complain when that happened, probably because there wasn’t too much emphasis at Gallifrey being inaccessible during that time. So the answer is once again, God (aka Moffat)-given Clara’s specialness to the Doctor’s life.

Though, a question still remains by that solution alone: if it’s that easy to gain access to a lost Gallifrey, why won’t the Daleks kidnap a Time Lord, kill him and go inside that Time Lord’s time scar? There many possible solutions to that question, answers in which I am satisfied, and they are the following:

1. The Daleks don’t know that they can travel through a Time Lord’s time scar; but if they do…
2. A Time Lord’s tomb can be rarely found. The G.I. was able to find The Doctor’s because he is too popular to most of the Time Lord’s enemies. And if the G.I. do share the information about The Doctor’s tomb to the Daleks, the Daleks don’t have the capability to time travel to an alternate timeline.
3. But if the Daleks do find a Time Lord’s tomb besides the Doctor’s, it probably don’t have a time scar the same as the Doctor’s because a regular, non-renegade Time Lord unlike the Doctor probably don’t travel as much like him and they probably even don’t time travel at all.

Plus with the fact that the Daleks don’t even knew Clara has that ability to travel inside the Doctor’s timeline and the TARDIS safety was turned off during this trip. I’m pretty satisfied with this solution unless Moffat and other future showrunners five years, ten years into the future introduced a plot point into the show’s mythology that would contradict these.

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@geoffers

– it was established in this episode, that if someone is foolish enough to turn off the safeguards for navigation, the tardis can take them places they really shouldn’t go, such as the very end of the universe. or, apparently, even to a past gallifrey. (whether outside/inside the timelock, or in a pocket universe? who can say?) that the daleks appear not to have this ability (or the precision of the tardis coordination system) is a good thing for the continued existence of our protagonist!

in short, clara could go there, because the tardis knows the way, and the safeguards for navigation were turned off by her idiot…

If it’s that easy to find Gallifrey, what are stopping the Daleks to just turn off their navigation safeguards or find someone with a telepathic connection to some random Time Lord or even a regular Gallifreyan so they can hop to a pre-Time War Gallifrey? Unless, it will be explained later (or this has been already a part of the mythology, as I haven’t watched that many Classic Who episodes) that it is dangerous or it is not easy to travel to these forbidden parts of the fourth dimension… though I doubt Moffat will address this plot hole he introduced in the current storyline.

@handles

– Hello and Welcome to you too. Sorry for not saying that earlier.

You have a legitamate arguement. I can’t argue with the logic of it. But you are using logic to find ways that the story does not work. If you succeed in your efforts all you will acheive in the end is, you will no longer want to watch the show.

With the same logic you could be looking for arguements that make the story work. If you succeed in doing that then you get to enjoy a brilliant TV show, for as long as it lasts.

Before this specific plot point, I actually enjoyed this episode. I find all of Moffat’s episode that deals with time travel in a mind-f**cking way like Blink and Day to be exciting. It’s just it’s him who introduced the plot point that Gallifrey cannot be easily accessed and found, and then almost a year and five episodes later it’s the same man who introduced this plot point who ignores it.

I don’t blame Moffat that much though. He’s a fan of the show since he was a kid and maybe he has already made this story in hopes that someday he will be part of the show… but by the time that happens, RTD got there first and all the stuff about Time War and time lock was already part of the show’s canon.

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I always thought that Gallifrey being gone from our universe, whether it was time-locked or in a pocket universe, means that it cannot be physically accessed like what we’ve seen in this episode. Let’s say one Dalek time travelled to that point in time where the Doctor is still a child and fired at him, what would happen? Would a magical time shield surround the child Doctor? If that is the right answer then how different is that kind of event from what Clara has done (that is influencing the child Doctor through words)? You see this type of story should be thought out more before being made because Gallifrey being physically gone is a story rule I can easily digest than having this kind of mind-hurting paradoxes introduced by this type of plot.

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If  Gallifrey’s past can be time travelled to easily, what’s to stop the Daleks from travelling in the past to destroy the Gallifreyan civilization?

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