• janetteB replied to the topic The Winchester

    @dentarthurdent I think the less knowledge one has of being in ICU the better. I unfortunately spent almost three weeks in one and that episodes did bring back memories for me, of the sense of being incapacitated, of being utterly trapped and isolated from the the world and the loneliness. It was fairly nightmarish especially given the various…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic The Winchester

    @dentarthurdent Yes, I’d agree that patient consent is key.

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic The Winchester

    @janetteb   I think the difference with ICU is that, in the latter, the patients are receiving the best care and they have rights.  And also, either fighting for their lives or in a state of relaxed consciousness.  So I think it might be less horrific for them.   (I’ve never been in ICU, other than maybe for 24 hours after my heart operation, but…[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Winchester

    @dentarthurdent

    And THEN Moff turns the horror UP!

    Another ‘patient’ is apparently saying ‘Kill Me’. He’s lurching up behind Bill when Razor brains him.

    Then, just in case we did’n’t get it, another candidate for full conversion announces, ‘Me Die, Me Die…’!

    There are so many ideas there. I’m still not sure if the Saxon/Missy pay off w…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic The Winchester

    That scene in the hospital so perfectly captured the horror of being an ICU patient, the sense of being trapped in a nightmare world, of not knowing if you ever going to walk out again, and being entirely isolated from the real world and one’s old life. Even the best are frightening alienating places. Moffat captures that and adds another level of…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic The Winchester

    @whohar   That story is so good it just has to be true.

    (And if it isn’t true then it ought to be…)

    @ps1l0v3y0u   That moment of turning down the ‘patient’s’ speaker was probably the most horrific of the entire episode.

  • WhoHar replied to the topic The Winchester

    Just dipping my toe back in.

    On the Capaldi recommendation for the Mondaisan Cybermen: IIRC Capaldi and Moffat had a conversation about Classic monsters that had not appeared in the new version of Who.

    Capaldi challenged Moffat to write a story with a classic monster of his choosing, which Moffat accepted. Capaldi came up with the Mondassian…[Read more]

  • winston replied to the topic The Winchester

    @dentarthurdent    He “filled in the blanks ” in a most excellent way. He must have had fun with that. @nerys  The Thick of It is good for a laugh if you can find it. I got it at my library.

    @ps1l0v3y0u   The Mondasion Cybermen are really horrifying because they show so clearly what or who they used to be. So human and yet they are monsters like…[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Winchester

    @dentarthurdent

    yes, rec = recommendation.

    I’m fairly sure Peter told Steven Moffat that the Mondasian Cybermen were the scariest thing he remembered. Moff thought they were rubbish but went away and thought about it. What a feat of imagination to imagine the Cyber factory as a terrifying Bakelite hospital and set it on a time dilated s…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic The Winchester

    @dentarthurdent @ps1l0v3y0u @winston I confess that I’d completely missed out on Peter Capaldi’s earlier work, with the exception of seeing him in Pinochet’s Last Stand (2006 TV film), which I believe we watched on HBO. And, of course, his earlier guest turn on Doctor Who. I’ll have to see if there’s a way for us to watch The Thick of It. Sounds…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic The Winchester

    @nerys   I just listened to that.   Peter’s part of the broadcast runs from 8 minutes to 43 minutes, if anyone is pressed for time.   (And, somewhat to my surprise, yt-dlp (which is a fork of youtube-dl) successfully downloaded it as an mp3 file – handy if you’re on a data limit and don’t want the other internetty things to nibble away at you d…[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Winchester

    @winston

    The detailed instructions he gave Ollie Reeder on where he should insert his I-pod and how Malcolm would then change the playlist…

    Roger Allam was as (genuinely) classy as ever as Peter Mannion.

     

  • winston replied to the topic The Winchester

    @ps1l0v3y0u     I loved The Thick of It  and particularly Malcolm. The contempt he had for idiots and incompetents and the way he expressed that contempt was delicious. I learned some totally new swears ,things I’d never heard before and I worked in a bar for 6 years. Peter was perfect as usual.

    stay safe

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Winchester

    @nerys

    Malcolm Tucker and The Thick of It was revolutionary here. And Peter owned that hostility and vulnerability… which it seemed Moffat deliberately airlifted into Who. Not so much swearing.

    Just had/having an online argument with a Big Finish fan for whom Moff is antichrist. Truly Who is broad church. But not for Chib maybe.

  • nerys replied to the topic The Winchester

    @ps1l0v3y0u It seemed to be very much about Peter being a fan, his devotion to the classic show… and adjusting to overwhelming public recognition.

    Yes, I would think going from relative obscurity to international stardom would be a challenge for anyone. But Peter handled it with aplomb during his run with Doctor Who.

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Winchester

    @nerys

    It seemed to be very much about Peter being a fan, his devotion to the classic show… and adjusting to overwhelming public recognition.

    What he had to say about The Thick of It and Armando Iannucci using improv was interesting, because it seems to me a lot of that spilled over into 12. But then, to judge from what we saw of the r…[Read more]

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  • nerys replied to the topic The Winchester

    I was listening to CBC Radio’s Q program this morning and enjoyed this interview with Peter Capaldi, who talked about his time with Doctor Who:

    https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-50-q/clip/16211467-peter-capaldi-ora-cogan

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