• JimTheFish replied to the topic Doctor Who memories

    Hi @thecityofjeff

    Welcome. This is a small-ish forum but everyone is very friendly and enjoy speculating like crazy on the slightest thing…

    Yeah, s18 is a really interesting jumping-on point, I think. TV-wise, I was maybe a season or two earlier. But really Who for me has always been primarily a literary thing and my childhood was spent…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip

    That’s really interesting. I am definitely intrigued now whether this is, as you say, some nostalgic twee Irish fantasy. (In which case, why not just imagine some quaint English bobby scenario?) Or is it going to tap into something more directly political? A pastoral idyll that’s actually riven by civil war — as an analogue for…[Read more]

  • @Jimthefish

    The Easter Rising was in 1916, but Brendan’s Garda mentor (do we ever find out his name?) is wearing a Garda uniform when he’s investigating the finding of Baby Brendan. Which means that has to be 1922 or later (unless we’re doing a Whoniverse thing of fudging the dates/uniforms because it’s not our universe).

    So when Brendan is seen…[Read more]

  • TheCityOfJeff replied to the topic Doctor Who memories

    I started watching Doctor Who in August 1980, with the first episode of The Leisure Hive. As far as I was concerned the show was all about terrifying music, a terrifying robot dog murdering woman and some strange, aloof and mostly burgundy oddbod being ripped apart. Horrifying…. Yet compelling.

    By the time The Keeper of Traken rolled around I…[Read more]

  • TheCityOfJeff replied to the topic On The Sofa (10)

    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Hello, I’m new to the Forum, recommended by a twitter friend so thought I would come and say hello.</p>
    I’ve been watching Doctor Who all my life, since I was three and three quarters back in 1980. I knock up a bit of digital fan art in my spare time, when I have any.

    Yup, that’s about it.

    Hi.

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    As others have pointed out, coppers in Ireland are indeed known as Garda. I’m still wondering if the decision to set this little section in Ireland is going to have more import as a setting than just to make a slight teasing pun. The time period has to be significant too. Did we get a specific time for this action. Is it, for…[Read more]

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  • Miapatrick replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip yes it was odd. Not to mention the profession of nurse as we know it came about during a war, because of a war even, arguably.

    Also people who practice medicine, and people who teach are pretty much the oldest and most consistently found members of a civilisation.

  • @miapatrick

    the supposed unlikelihood of one of the handful of survivors being a nurse, another a teacher.

    I found those comments a bit odd, to be honest. Soldiers wouldn’t be the last people to survive: they’d have died – or the good ones would – protecting the nurse, the teacher or fighting the Cybermen. The people told to refugee out would be…[Read more]

  • I presumed the resemblance to the Racnos was deliberate (spiders v scorpions) and was waiting for the obligatory one liner somewhere that they came from the planet next door or something (like the Ood and the Sensorites).

    As for why they were so clumsy, they had to be otherwise there was absolutely no chance of outrunning them!

  • Miapatrick replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @blenkinsopthebrave yes – I already knew it was Guarda, but this episode really bought it out. I even said to my boyfriend ‘I like that it’s guard in Ireland.

    So I looked on OED and I feel that my response is reasonable. Police comes from public order, administration, possibly regulation. To police something is one kind of thing. To Guard is to…[Read more]

  • Just did a rewatch. If others have already referred to what I am about to say upstream, apologies. Anyway, Brendon. Why was his story set in Ireland? Perhaps because the police force is called the Guarda. He is asked at his job interview why he wants to be a guard. He replies: “I want to make a difference.” Now think of the English meaning of…[Read more]

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  • nerys replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @craig Ah, I think I’ve got it. It’s Professor Yana from the “Utopia” episode (David Tennant era). Derek Jacobi played Yana/the Master before regenerating. I’d forgotten all about this episode, but now I see (as others have been pointing out) parallels between this episode and that one. And yes, “you are not alone/y-a-n-a” was a running theme.

  • lisa replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip       @blenkinsopthebrave

    I’ve been thinking that clock has a Time Lord in it and its waiting for his immortal body.

    It might be KO ?   My hunch is  that he’s another Time Lord using a perception filter like

    the Ruth Doc.    There was a resemblance between KO and old Brendon.

    If you look with a magnifying glass at the screen…[Read more]

  • @blenkinsopthebrave

    Oh, I think the clock has a meaning and I don’t think you’re grasping at straws. The camera focus on the clock wasn’t casual – the actor placed it quite deliberately for its very own close-up and that close-up was long enough to have made a real live actor a very happy bunny.

    But I think its significance is as a symbol of tim…[Read more]

  • @bluesqueakpip

    Thanks for that. I suppose I was thinking of the Master’s Tardis taking the form of a clock in “The Deadly Assassin” (particularly since it was a Gallifrey/TimeLord story). But in reality, I think I am just clutching at straws in trying to find meaning in what we were presented with.

  • @blenkinsopthebrave

    I had a good look at a freeze-frame of the clock and I’d say it’s an ordinary carriage clock with Roman numerals.

    Brendan's clock

    The only odd thing about it is that the Roman numerals look a bit funny – at first I thought they were in the wrong places, but it’s just that the right hand stroke of the X is really thin and difficult to see.

  • Craig replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @blenkinsopthebrave @nerys

    Just popping in. My brain may be fuzzy as it’s been a long day and I’ve had a couple of after dinner G&Ts. But I think he was called Yana – which stood for “You Are Not Alone” (a running theme that series).

    Why that makes any sense whatever, I have no idea. But it was a great reveal.

  • Is there anyone out there who has the capacity to read the writing (if there is any) or the symbols on the retirement carriage clock? It might not be important, of course, but the aging Blenkinsop eyes are not up to the task.

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