@gothamcelt @delta

I am sorry to hear that you guys didn’t enjoy the episode.  This episode is a bit metaphorical.  I believe the very key part is the Doctor enters room 12 and remembers all of his previous encounters.  The Doctor wants to give up and asks Clara why he has to continue like this.  Yet, in the end, he still stands to his prin…[Read more]

Great episode. Agree with @django that there’s a definite Prisoner riff here, most notably the Once Upon A Time episode.

@delta — I think @pedant and others are correct in that we’re not talking about a Doctor ‘clone’ just because he’s teleported. How many times has the Doctor used a teleporter throughout the 50 years of the series? If your…[Read more]

@Delta– why over complicate things by assuming that the doctor is wrong/is lying?

@Delta– then the doctor is manufactured during the first teleportation he ever underwent, and his first into the confession dial, and every one after that.

@delta It can be a lazy idea if done lazily. If done well it can be great. I love “Source Code” for example, and also thought “Edge of Tomorrow” was a great take on the genre.

@delta

There is a philosophical debate about teleportation that has been explored in sci-fi for decades from Star Trek onwards. Every time someone undergoes it, the ‘original’ is destroyed and conveyed as digital information to be reconstituted at the destination. The uncertainty over this process led Doctor ‘Bones’ McCoy to distrust…[Read more]

@delta can you give me an example of a none-biological clone?

@Delta

A clone is a living copy of a living thing.

No. A clone has none of the memories or life experience of the original (and has to be growth from embryo, with it’s DNA already thinking it is t0+n years old).

But the Doctor had all of his life experience right up to the moment of teleport. Whatever was storing him was much more sophisticated…[Read more]

@Delta: how was the planet of the timelords existing billions whats of the what now?

@Delta– but the day of the doctor was broadcast years after the re-boot. Up until that point, he believed he had done it. Had clara not been there, he might have done it. Not just the war doctor, but ten and eleven as well.

@Delta

Listen,

Yes, boss.

the premise is solid, but the cloning and the million,million
Corpses sort of mess the story up.

It wasn’t cloning, it was restoration from a backup (and idea very familiar to fans of Ian M Banks and quite low-tech to both Gallifrey and Karn, I’d suggest).

Also, this isn’t the Doctor anymore, it’s just a clon…

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@delta– that the doctor was willing to commit genocide- that was the premise right at the beginning of the reboot.

@Delta

He seems to be willing to commit genocide, if you take the final scene into consideration.

There is absolutely no basis for that assertion.

Anyhoo anyone who stayed on the the teaser TREAD VERY CAREFULLY.

@purofilion    Personally, I don’t think that Clara is a Time Lady. But someone mentioned at some point the idea that she might eventually become one, or at least end up on Gallifrey. That thought occurred to me today as I watched, that we are possibly being set up, not for Clara to die, but for Clara not to die.

@Delta    I like your avatar!

@delta

Calm down. Being told your theory is bonkers is high praise indeed around here!

(although Susan was his granddaughter)

@delta  — hello!  That is a very bonkers theory!