@wolfweed

Yes he said they had erased themselves from everyone’s memory (although since the original implantation wasn’t 100 % – nence the need for memory police – its reasonable to assume that the opposite wouldn’t be 100 % either). In many ways, that might be worse. For 7 billion people to wake up and find the remains of tens of thousands of…[Read more]

@nerys the final scene between bill and the doctor. You’re correct the very last scene was with Missy. No transcript available yet (so far as I can see yet). The Doctor asked a passing student what the (remains) of the statue were., whilst the two of them were musing on recent events.

@wolfweed @nerys @pedant

We are debating the last minute, the final scene of the episode. Nothing more or less. In the final scene the conversation with the passing student sets a scene where as soon as the mind link was gone, everyone forgot what had happened for the last 6 months, the physical evidence (which was not insubstantial) ignored and…[Read more]

@nerys @pedant

I’m not going to get into any argument with either of you about the nature of science fiction verses science fantasy verses speculative fiction here, nor am i going to argue about my version of science fictions better than yours, or your version of science fiction is the best or whether I have a hideously narrow straight jacketed…[Read more]

@wolfweed

Missy claims that the door to the vault couldn’t stop her leaving (but the Doctor could ?). Is this true or just hubris ? Only the Doctor and Missy know or suspect.

She begged the Doctor for life and he made that possible. His oath (to himself essentially) was 1,000 years confinement and it appears he is determined to help Missy…[Read more]

@pedant

Whatever the deeper, metaphorical, allegorical meaning your story is really meant to be about, as the writer/producer/show runner you are actively making a choice to write within a genre (even if you’re subverting it in some way) and you have deliberately chosen to make it an end of the world setting.

Having made that creative choice,…[Read more]

@thane15 (Puro)

I guess it depends (IMO) on whether you are into Sci-fi in a major way or not. The closest AG Who has been to sci-fi (as opposed to sci-fantasy) was Turn Left. That story showed the large scale consequences of the various RTD era end of the world scale stories had on the UK in particular. The economic and social damage was very…[Read more]

@thane15

As to why come? They wanted somewhere in the galaxy to live? Missy had defeated them once. They needed a HQ?

Unless this gets explained in a future episode, I’d suggest an alternative reason. We saw in Pyramid part, that the Monks requires true/pure consent to take charge. As such it isnt an invasion, even if they act like they have wh…[Read more]

@missrori

For that matter, they sure aren’t concerned about all the people imprisoned and executed during the six months of Monks!  Keep in mind, tons of families will be wondering where loved ones are…with no memories of what happened.  That’s horrifying to contemplate, and I’m surprised Moffat and co. didn’t catch that.  (“In the Forest of the…[Read more]

@janetteB

All of ISIS/Al Qaeda (and before them PLO and there more extreme brothers) attacks are political in intent (as well as being at best indirectly related to their view of Islam). The observation (at least 10 years ago) that each cycle of violence gets more extreme in nature remains true. The fact that many (too many ?) politicians focus…[Read more]

@wolfweed

Also for your delectation: A revelation about the actress who plays Bill’s Ma:  Where have we seen Bill’s mum before? (No spoilery comments @ the time of linking)

Well done. I also wonder whether that might end up being a spoiler of sorts. I had previously wondered whether there might be a deeper link between Bill and the Doctor along…[Read more]

@tardigrade

Did the Doctor really waste regeneration energy on what was essentially a practical joke by that point? Bill seemingly doesn’t know about TL regeneration, so wouldn’t know what that was about anyway. So really not for her, but instead a fake-out for fans. The Doctor was so far out of character though, that this was still pretty muc…[Read more]

@Thane15

1 thing, did anyone think the Doctor’s “mwahhahah” laugh flying over London was a bit….off?

The super close-up of teeth? Almost valeyard-ish? But then not?

Just seemed ‘wrong’ somehow.

PC was riffing on the old fashioned pantomime super-villain (and what a good one he made). If you add the way he “tested” Bill earlier (the psuedo-rege…[Read more]

@wolfweed

Whilst I can understand people calling for “action” from feelings of anger and rear,  there is a lot of crap being written. Katie Hopkins in particular stands out again for the utter bollocks she writes.

I’ve just watched all three parts of this story back to back. Whilst I’m not sure that was a good thing to do, – I’m sure I misssed a few things – but I have to sat the Moff, Whitehouse and Harkness have between them managed to write one of the finer pieces of Who.

The only downer was watching the final episode and then putting on the news.

@wolfweed @craig

I doubt either of you have heard this since virtually no French pop crosses the channel (although you never know):

La fin de la fin du monde

@bleknsopthebrave

I agree, it is capable of being understood in different ways and is troubling, but I read some hesitance and distaste as well. I would write more, but this isnt a place for politics.

@blenkinsopthebrave

I find that rather disappointing, even though I don’t really care what he thinks. I worry more about the editorial line from the Daily Mail and Express, supported by the Sun to be honest. That said, I would wonder whether that it was just JCC taking the piss, being controversial for the sake of it, but you never can tell.…[Read more]

@Thane15

I’m afraid poetry mostly passed me by. John Cooper Clarke is the poet I heard most frequently when I was a young adult (he’s still going, but you don’t see him very much these days). Rap – I’m partial to the odd song.

@whisht @thane15 @craig @pedant

I preferred this sentiment personally. IMO the poem by Tony Walsh was the most moving part of the first vigil/memorial (watched it live) at (Prince) Albert Square, even I wasnt convinced that it was entirely appropriate in that…[Read more]