• Arbutus replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @purofilion wrote:   Our new Dr isn’t that interested in acceptance -but that’s surface only, I believe
    @stormintheheartofthesun wrote: 12 also changed the parameters of his relationship with Clara.

    I think that what changed him was the events of Day of the Doctor. I think that he very much wants to be accepted by Clara, and is less conce…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @stormintheheartofthesun

      I thought Missy said that was going to kill the living humans and turn them into cybermen

    You are right, and my memory was at fault.  I have just watched that bit again and, although it wasn’t spelled out explicitly, the implications of her words were pretty clear – the rain would fall again and everyone on earth would d…[Read more]

  • geoffers replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @stormintheheartofthesun Have I gone too far?

    no, indeed! i would love for river to be able to return for the odd guest spot, here and there. i don’t know about clara being her child with the doctor, but anything’s possible! since this series was originally intended to be smith’s last, there is evidence (in ‘the name of the doctor’) that such a…[Read more]

  • DrBen replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @Bluesqueakpip @stormintheheartofthesun @Mudlark and whomever else:

    The boy’s return certainly requires the re-formation of a living human body, since the boy’s own body (a) was killed several years ago and (b) presumably became a Cyberman and exploded in the clouds.  So presumably that’s a capability that can be used again?

    On that point, it…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @stormintheheartofthesun

    I don’t really think that we can compare the boy’s return to a teleport. CAL stored the original body and brought it back later.

    Unless your SF teleport is the type that sends all our little molecules down a beam, a teleport is just a way of recording and reconstructing information.

    The people inside CAL had no phy…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @Belshazzar       Wonderful first post, welcome! I agree with lots of what you say, and the more time I have for things to percolate (I only saw the episode a few hours ago), the more I suspect that some aspects at least of the ending will be revisited in a few weeks’ time. If done well, it could result in a very uplifting Christmas episode…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Dark Water

    I don’t think Danny is permanently dead. The uploaded souls in the Bells of St. John were able to go back to their bodies if there were bodies left to go back to. @Mudlark quoted Missy: “Imagine you could upload dying minds to that…” So I’m betting that as long as Danny is still on ice (so to speak), he can return there.

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  • Apopheniac replied to the topic Dark Water

    Hello @stormintheheartofthesun

    Another thought, the Nethersphere even looks like a Toclafane. Small floaty sphere thing. Hmmmm

    In response to that comment and your previous one, tying the similarities between what we see physically of The Nethersphere and the plot of Utopia (v good btw!), I had a search because I thought I had said something…[Read more]

  • PaperMoon replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night

    Evening all,

    @PhaseShift – I also noticed the wolves and tiger in the museum and then, later, the predators in the forest happen to be wolves and a tiger. It seems a strange coincidence, but then it could be just a coincidence. But the closer I look at this episode the more I get a sense of someone making this up (or parts of it, at least) as…[Read more]

  • geoffers replied to the topic In the Forest of the Night

    @stormintheheartofthesun – good spot. i had noticed the red police box, but it hadn’t triggered my bonkers radar. haven’t the real ones all been converted to book exchanges, now? if so, one that still looks like a phone box might be very conspicuous, indeed?