• BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    He has blood on his hands, he has made decisions that are in the scheme of gray morality, but does that not make him a good man? When I mentioned romance it was in regard to his relationship to he and Clara. I felt she was originally swept up with 11, but put off by 12’s apperance. Over the course of their relationship they have had sweet moments…[Read more]

  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    5 sacrificed himself to save Perri and 9 saved Rose. To me he isn’t perfect for sure. She isn’t perfect but everything he did to help save the world a thousand times would make you a good person.

  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    I view the Doctor as a good man for all the times he has saved the universe. He has sacrificed his own life multiple times to save his companions. I agree that Clara has the most realistic relationship with 12 that probably has ever been portrayed in a Doctor companion relationship but that doesn’t mean I have to like or support that character.

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    To paraphrase from Dark Water he says what did I do to make you think so little of me that your betrayal would mean I would ever give up on you? So she has done all this but doesn’t trust him to help her. I think you all have a way more romantic view of their relationship.

  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    I like the resolution of Deep Breath but then in Kill the Moon and Into the Dalek she has zero confidence in the Doctor or acts like she doesn’t know him Yes, she does finally admit what he means to her in the season finale, but the whole season is a back and forth. And really if 11 asked about his worth and reputation she would say yes he is a…[Read more]

  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    I love the complex relationship and arguments but I never feel like she believes in him the way we all do as a character. I felt like Clara has scorned him and made him feel alien. He has this need to please her in some way is maybe why Missy put them together. “Do as you are told!”

  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    He was a good man. He is still a good man, if asked for a minute about Matt Smith’s Doctor being a good man she would say yes.  I feel like she is cruel to him. Not understanding of what he has been through even though she knows what has happened.

  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    Kill the Moon it was asked if he was coming back and she said she dint know or later just said he wasn’t.  There were other times when the question was brought up about the Doctor, I think it was also in the Daleks episode integrity or concern for others well being. She would always sat she doesn’t know or flat out dismissal.

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    I dislike every time Clara is asked about the integrity of the Doctor and she always shrugs and says she doesn’t know. I have never seen a companion have such a low opinion of the Doctor. And the only change was really the appearance.  I thought they were over the hump and then it just goes back to her bad mouthing him.

  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    My favorites this season was Deep Breath, Listen and Orient Express.  I think Capaldi is excellent. I think the Pink and Clara relationship didn’t have to be so toxic to the Doctor companion relationship. I never felt the relationship with Matt Smith’s Doctor was convincing, now with Peter Capaldi she comes across as shallow. I think the show…[Read more]

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  • BFINCH replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    I don’t know if this has been discussed, but think Santa may undo some of the wrongs that happened. Surely it can’t end on such a downer this season.

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