I braved a second watch, and I feel this is a magnificent end to a series which I look forward to binge watching at the earliest opportunity. Just for things I’ve missed, which will probably be a lot, as I’ll explain.

I think it’s a sign of confidence and bravery to do something different with a show. You may lose a few people on the way but,…[Read more]

@Apopheniac

On a philosophical note … why was it so important that the person themself press the Delete button?  Why wasn’t that something Seb (or Missy) could just do themselves?  Since 2005, Cyberman creation hasn’t required that the person delete their own emotions – quite the opposite in fact.

Is this another one of the holes in The Master’s…

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No spoilers intended. His one season sign on has been mentioned here and there. I think the last place I read it was TV Guide Magazine. One season and one Christmas episode it said. My theory isn’t definite though. That’s all it is is a theory. As for the content of this post it all pertains to this episode. But if you want me to move…[Read more]

@Barnable liked the Danny analysis @Apopheniac yours too – [I haven’t spent much time thinking about Danny]

@Geoffers thanks for fixing me ! 🙂 🙂 I will particularly watch out for that !

always have a soft spot for certain tragic characters too]

@Apopheniac

I’d forgotten these. And I have a pretty good memory!

Hypnotic, isn’t she? 😀

Seriously, it’s quite possible that there was a line – and either time constraints meant it got left out, or they felt in editing that it made it too apparent that UNIT, throughout the episode, reacts very strangely towards Missy.

They fall into her t…[Read more]

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For the many millions of DW fans who’ve joined in since 2005, The Master being good at hypnotism isn’t known.

Which is a bit weird, really, because it was sort of a major plot point in Sound of Drums.

@BadWulf    Wow. Well done! I think it’s very cool that you know the different models of phone boxes.

@Apopheniac    Yes. Well, I suppose I am old school enough that it didn’t occur to me to worry about the companion needing to sustain a story arc. And in fact, even in AG Who, it hasn’t always been that way. Actually, I think it’s quite possibl…[Read more]

@Apopheniac – yes, but that’s because I shave my head.

Otherwise – sparks!

zzzzztttc-htst!zzzzzttttttt!tttzzztzttch!!chchttzttzsttattzttttz!!

😉

@macphisto96   I’ve seen several people here and elsewhere speak of the missing joy.  I understand that, but that is purposeful.   This is interesting, because I myself have actually felt huge joy in this series. I have laughed out loud, I have smiled, I have sat wide-eyed, and after so many episodes have gone “YES.” Yes, the show has been thoug…[Read more]

@Apopheniac     I thought it was Seb at the door!  In any case, I’m not sure that scene can really count as a spoiler. Unless we’re believing in Santa now!

@pedant      It is a fundamental of good storytelling that victory has a cost.    I could accept Danny as the cost, but not Osgood!  🙁  I will have to watch again, but I didn’t think the…[Read more]

Great episode, thoroughly enjoyed it.

I also noticed the fantasy theme continuing with Missy as Mary Poppins and Santa will be here for Xmas. I thought it was interesting that Santa tells the Doctor that he (the Doctor) can’t let it end like that (or words to that effect). I wonder what the Doctor will want for Xmas.

CyberDan the Good – touching…[Read more]

@Apopheniac I agree that if the guards behind Missy weren’t there it might have made no difference?
@Bluesqueakpip and @ Hudsey I agree that the resurrection of the Afghan Boy had a lot of oddness and
how will Clara handle him? Plus Cyber Danny must still exist in some form to send him back
Also the Nethersphere in the Black Archives is a great…[Read more]

Oh, and @Apopheniac, if you want the expert on Delgado episodes, ask @Phaseshift. But we did do a Terror of the Autons rewatch a year ago – that’s the story that introduces the…[Read more]

@Apopheniac – yeah, sorry about the obvious frustration. I’m afraid you got the brunt – hence the p.s. I really didn’t mean it to sound like I was cross at you.

I don’t mind people not knowing when they haven’t watched the BG series or Delgado; it’s when they claim in one post that we should have a Master like Delgado then, in another post,…[Read more]

@Apopheniac – as I said on the Graun, the Master historically has hypnotic powers.

I said it just once on the Graun. I flatly refuse to repeat it several hundred times for idiots who claim that Moffat is ruining the memory of Delgado but who don’t know one of the Delgado Master’s most basic abilities. 🙄

P.S. Addendum: I don’t mean you. I’m…[Read more]

@Apopheniac– well by fair I meant out and out lies, withholding vital information, or re-writing ‘bad wolf’… I see what you mean about spoilers, but they often do it for the Christmas episode, it’s sort of seen as s different thing- last year I don’t think they did, but that one was inside the arch…

Yes, I wondered when the music kicked in at…[Read more]

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But I will never forgive him pissing on the spoilerphobe fans by inserting the Christmas preview in the middle of the closing credits.

Oh for crying out load. Moffat has repeatedly made it clear that nothing released through official channels is a spoiler. Indeed, as this ep showed, it is more often misdirection.

Been catching up with the oh so many posts. So much good chat, haven’t quite got my head round all the current bonkers.

I had barely recovered from almost snorting beer out my nose at @Phaseshift ‘letter to the BBC’ about trolls when I then came across the post from @Whisht and well, lets just say I wishI had some sort of respiratory bypass…[Read more]

@Barnable

You argue that the Heaven/afterlife in which HFM, Gretchen, the PC and Danny find themselves might be real because

We have seen Missy, Seb and PCSO all in the same place at the same time

But that argument is easily countered. Missy is an avatar projected into the virtual world, Seb is either another such avatar or a virtual const…[Read more]

@Apopheniac – I think that’s a good spot. Yes, Missy sacrificed herself for the Doctor – and the people who get special little chats from her are the people who sacrificed themselves for the Doctor.

That would certainly explain why Danny got Seb. He may be closely connected to the Doctor, but he didn’t sacrifice himself, so doesn’t rate that…[Read more]