• Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Rosa

    @DogBoyTheCat

    Did I offend someone with that question?

    I can only refer you to the following dialogue from Time of Angels

    THE DOCTOR: Er, no offence, Bishop.
    OCTAVIAN: Quite a lot taken, if that’s all right, Doctor.

    Ratings were discussed in the On The Sofa thread. Short version – each episode to date has higher ratings than any series…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Rosa

    @dogboythecat

    Not sure how you can call the characters here remotely one-dimensional. As @bluesqueakpip pointed out, both Rosa and Blake are given depth and nuance, aided by really great performances by the respective actors. In fact, I’d say it’s so far a trait of Chibnall’s era that all the supporting characters have been written really well…[Read more]

  • Cath Annabel replied to the topic Rosa

    The villain here was perhaps one-dimensional, but as @bluesqueakpip says, that’s because he revealed so little of his motivation, apart from that one remark directed at Ryan about his reasons for selecting this point in history.  I strongly suspect he will reappear at some point and we’ll find out more about whether he’s a ‘lone wolf’ or part of…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Rosa

    @dogboythecat

    What do you mean by ‘one-dimensional’?

    The villain was ‘one dimensional’ because he essentially refused to reveal anything about himself. Rosa Parks certainly wasn’t one-dimensional – we found out quite a bit about why this woman would decide she’d had enough. Even James Blake was revealed as a fairly ordinary guy who liked…[Read more]

  • thane16 replied to the topic Rosa

    @misterf55 @dogboythecat

    I’m circling you. Thinking better of it. Then not. I am well educated like a lot of people. I spent many months investigating speeches by people stronger, smarter, braver than me (some like 14 year old Emmett Till): MLK; Medgar Evers; Rosa Parks; Laura Nelson; Ida B. Wells-Barnett; Fannie Lou Hamer (“actresses,” some). As…[Read more]

  • Hiker replied to the topic Rosa

    @DogBoytheCat

    I’m interpreting/hoping that you think this episode is a difficult, if worthy, topic and it makes people uncomfortable to realize that the USA was so blatantly, no-doubt-about-it racist.  Hard viewing, but also inspirational and emotional.

    If you come to Doctor Who for more science- fantasy escapism, (yes, I do too) you are hoping…[Read more]

  • Juniperfish replied to the topic Rosa

    @dogboythecat  I don’t really know what you mean by “cost effective”. The viewing figures for “Rosa” are in and all three of the episodes in this Series 11 of Nu Who so far have smashed it:

    Rosa Viewing Figures: Series 11 Historical Solidifies Doctor Who Ratings

    Chibnall, the new showrunner, is definiely consciously pitching to younger viewers. They are the future of…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Rosa

    @dogboythecat

    I’d certainly agree that the last little speechifying coda was dramatically unnecessary, although thematically I’d say it worked, And as others have pointed out, Who has always been a social justice programme and it’s never been above a bit of preaching — the moments that are often brought up by fans of the classic show as…[Read more]

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Rosa

    @dogboythecat

    And a Whovian since the Traughton (sic) days….

    uh-hu

  • Juniperfish replied to the topic Rosa

    @dogboythecat  This is a Whovian space which thrives because of the swift dispatch of those who have simply come to troll, it’s true, and we had a rather odious visitor just recently, so…

    But, assuming you’re not trolling, the reason this kind of comment about “social justice” “turning people off” is so frustrating to encounter, and often gets…[Read more]

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Rosa

    @dogboythecat

    It might be more convincing if you spelt Troughton correctly.

    ”social justice” narrative

    Or “decency” as it is known outside fuckwit circles.

    Which has always been at the core of Doctor Who’s storytelling.

    As I said upthread, some of the dialogue was a bit spelly-outy for my tastes, but I have been around the track at least as…[Read more]