• PhaseShift replied to the topic The Girl Who Died

    @juniperfish

    I’m looking at the new series Big Finish stuff and wondering how much damage my bank balance can take. River Song AND the War Doctor. Bugger!

    I must admit though that the testosterone line made me laugh. I couldn’t help but think of the typical warrior race, like the Klingons and think, well, yeah.

    Funny that Who made a warrior…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)

    @Juniperfish and @Ichabod

    I think the Doctor’s occasional sexual attraction to humans was almost certainly a side effect of being ‘last of his kind’. There are, after all, other examples of Gallifreyan/Human relationships, and other cross-species relationships in the TV stories. But to be truthful, I always took the ‘really tight skirt’ as purely…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)

    @juniperfish  hated Eleven’s comment about Clara being an enigma wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a skirt that’s a little bit too tight – ewww 

    Me too.  That’s the kind of crap that turned me off 11, and also is fodder for the STFUmoffat haters who think our show runner is an irredeemable misogynist.  Just gets in the way in every direction…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @Supernumerary     While it might be considered a cliché, I think that if something is presented for a purpose within the narrative, that shouldn’t negate using it anyway. In this case, of course, to draw our attention to Clara’s situation.

    @janetteB  @juniperfish   I would have to agree that, if Gallifrey is to be brought back, it would only…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic Before The Flood

    I have been slowly catching up and as usual the posts come in faster than I can read.

    I made a few notes as I read. So many excellent posts, really enjoyed reading the discussion as much as watching the actual episode. I would like to comment on more of the posts but would mostly be to say, “well said” or “hear hear” so to move on;

    Nice to hear…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @pedant      Putting our guesses out there before we know if we are right, that’s gutsy. Bragging rights when we nail it, that’s the prize.   🙂

    @Craig    Perhaps those who always threatened to never watch again have actually decided to never watch again.     This made me laugh. Would that it were true.

    @PhaseShift     Yes, I forgot to incl…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @Juniperfish   Yes, sorry! I was nit-picking and should have made it clear that, apart from that quibble, I agreed with your point.  I am still puzzled by the decision to call the alien the Fisher King though, given that the name has such resonance.  I kept looking for something definite that might tie it in to the grail legend, but failed.  If y…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Before The Flood

    Yet another excellent episode and a beautifully intricate bootstrap loop.  My immediate feeling after the first viewing was that the ending seemed a bit rushed, with too much left to the Doctor’s explanation in the final minutes, but I realise after a second watch this morning that this was because I hadn’t been concentrating sufficiently to spot…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @craig  Perhaps those who always threatened to never watch again have actually decided to never watch again.

    Nope.  Positives led, but by page 4 it declines back into interminable “look how clever I am!” whining.  Yuck.

    @bluesqueskpip  Where did Clara come from? She is a bootstrap paradox. 

    Exactly.  And given that she’s a bootstrap parad…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Before The Flood

    Found the first 2 parter more satisfying. My feeling is that we are getting set up
    towards a very big paradox to come later. It could be about Clara and
    how they might end her story? They brought up ‘love’ is this episode. @Juniperfish
    River is going to be involved. The leaf the raven and rebirth.

  • @Juniperfish

    I am not sure what happened to Smith Doctor’s

    I suspect its net effect was to make the Doctor neither the cosmic hobo nor the mighty warrior, but noted by those in-the-know and maybe with a popular following (a la Unit fangirl). Think Che Guevara c/w Chairman Mao.

  • PhaseShift replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @juniperfish

    Yes, the dialogue about the Time Lords was intruiging, especially as the last time Whithouse wrote an exchange like this in School Reunion it went:

    Finch: And what of the Time Lords? I always thought of you as such a pompous race. Ancient, dusty senators so frightened of change and… chaos. And of course, they’re all but extinct. Onl…[Read more]

  • PhaseShift replied to the topic Under The Lake

    @bluesqueakpip @juniperfish @craig

    Anyone else fancy some art criticism?

    I don’t know much about art criticism, but I know I’m a bit geeky. So here goes:

    The figures in the boat are yellow, red and blue. In Trek, Blue is the science/medicine colour across the board. In the original series yellow was command, red was disposable (hence ‘red shirt’…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic Under The Lake

    O.K., to try to take up the art criticism challenge set by @bluesqueakpip and following up @juniperfish…

    In the Bible story of Jonah and the whale, Jonah is thrown overboard from his ship by his crew-mates in order to put an end to a terrible storm (though they are reluctant to take this action), he is swallowed by a giant whale or huge fish (…[Read more]

  • JimmytheTulip replied to the topic Under The Lake

    @juniperfish

    You said way up above… “Is Clara somehow “the enemy inside a friend”?”

    Well, there’s a few people here skeptical of my theory but I think, yes, she is. I could turn out to be horrendously wrong but, at this point, I think Clara is an incarnation of the Master, the one after John Simm, who has used a Chameleon Arch to hide her ide…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic BBC Approved Spoilers

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  • ichabod replied to the topic Under The Lake

    @mudlark  That they are threatening and potentially homicidal, despite one of them being an alien from Tivoli – the ultimate pacifist culture – is enough on its own to suggest that they are not manifestations of the souls of the dead they resemble. I don’t think that the Doctor was thinking very clearly here.

    Oh, good — I didn’t spot that,…[Read more]

  • Kharis replied to the topic Under The Lake

    @Juniperfish  Moffat would. (;

    The Dæmons:

    Okay, the Master is wearing similar glasses in the Daemons as that the Doctor is now wearing, a scientist at UNIT by the name of Osgood is trying to end the argument between science and magic….I could go on.  Maybe this episode is really part two of the The Dæmons.

    In an episode that takes place in…[Read more]

  • Kharis replied to the topic Under The Lake

    Okay, any of you who have read my private message about my theories may have guessed I’m sort of freaking out right now, because people on this forum who asked to hear them in PM know I completely called this before I saw it, and also I may have been the first to see the tarot theme in this season and post on it on any Who site. A nod to my…[Read more]

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