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hey @dentarthurdent I guess I will be dreading getting ever close to Empress of Mars as I didnt have much interest in the ep before but as we both enjoyed Robot of Sherwood I am more concerned now about Empress of Mars.

It seems good to go over Moffatt stories again cause they can be confusing but sometimes you appreciate them more 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent it sounds very interesting and I often take too many photos as nobody can remember everything but with photos they can help safe memories , environments and our feelings when we took the photo 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey everyone its wonderful to hear from soo many of you it feels like were all a ‘fam’ as the Doctor would say haha 🙂

@winston I am delighted you were having a wonderful time deciding your fav companions for each Doctor , its always hilarious thinking how they will all interact with each other espically with a Doctor like 12th 🙂

@janetteb Hearing you are really enjoying this discussion of mine is wonderful , I am soo honored you are all enjoying these discussions and having soo much fun talking to each other about our wonderful show , take care everyone hugs 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent I love your none spolierific review especially when I got to Bill’s love life hahaha , the character development for Bill seems strong with those 3 eps as in her determination and bravery to help the Doctor as she trys her best to save the Doctor which is interesting since how short of a time we have had her up to that point.

I guess cause she as seen a lot and espically as the Doctor just recently saved her life in Oxygen she trusts him even more and has become stronger as a result as I remember in the wooden house one I think she was still a bit skeptical of him , it will be interesting to see that development in the 3 eps 🙂

I think it will be strange for me going back to Missy from the new Master but thats what I get for jumping around haha

Thinking back on it having Nardol with like Graham would have been hilarious actually 12th , Graham and Nardol would have been brilliant mayby include Ryan too ok while I am at it bring in Captain Jack and Mickey Mouse what a perfect team 🙂 hugs

Declan Sargent

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hey Dentarthurdent you make some good points and mayby I need to re cap some eps and watch some I am missing off my list to get the best picture of Clara and what she does so I think we should move on from her for a bit as I dont wanna start a fight as I said and what I say you have far more knowledge about her to provide a different point with evidence and thats fine I just need to catch up as I said.

I am not going too much in an order though I was going through series 8 in an order so far prior to watching all of series 11 and a few of the first eps of series 12 both with my Dad but sometimes as I wait to watch more of series 12 with him I jump back into older eps by myself (like from series 4 to bring me back to a feeling of comfort ect) and watch them and I feel going through series 8 mostly in order now as I began jumping around hence watching Flat Line again and In the Forest of the Night for the first time I am getting the ungrateful and most powerful version of Clara in my opinion so that why I am getting really sick of her again sorry and I guess I havent seen too much of series 9 or 10 though I was binge watching series 10 when it was new and I will be on ep 6 since I have just passed Oxygen , hope this helps explain where I am and where I am going with regards to Doctor Who eps 🙂 take care everyone hugs 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent I am shocked but grateful that you took the time to search up the science in soo much detail thank you 🙂

I have heard soo many people complain about Kill the Moon and its physics ect , I havnt seen the ep yet but I agree some of what I have heard is kinda ridiculous not like people are over exaggerating I mean how they say its soo scientific in the ep and yet its not is astonishing especially for the 12 Doctor like I would have assumed they wouldn’t let something soo blaringly wrong be in one of his eps although I have seen Into The Forest and I guess it has elements of wow that’s stupid and not scientific but maybe its alright as they say its like alien plant pollen or something lol but in Kill the Moon whats the reasons.

Furthermore Clara again makes the important choice I know the other women helped her and the girl funnily enough but why Clara had to be a part of it mmm I guess like sometimes with Rose its like ah its her planet she wants to help but Clara isnt really educated for that role and why would you let someone who has never trained for that help I get The Doctor can get away with that on most occasions cause he knows soo much , has authority and the physic paper if needed but Clara some normal human let her in charge of your space program from the future haha

I used to like Clara a bit (the Victorian version is the best) , she is kinda alright sometimes with the 12 but not very often she has too much power , is always complaining , lying to Danny like I saw the Ring Of Akitan recently and she was soo much better there , kinder , willing to explore , try new things and not complain that much but she is really grinding my gears with how she changed and all the power she gets to the point the Doctor spends Billions of years in torturer over and over again to save her and she doesn’t appreciate any of that and flys of with Me who is also too powerful and un appreciative , this is all my opinion which (probs got a bit out of hand and away from the point) I dont wanna start a fight over,  just want to have a friendly discussion with you all 🙂 hugs

Thank you again @dentarthurdent for sharing your views and highs and lows of some interesting Doctor Who eps as well as taking the time to research 🙂 , take care everyone hugs 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent mayby I should check Oxygen again and mayby do some research I just thought being in space without a suit was dangerous a lot quicker than 4 mins as your eyes swell I think cause of the pressure and I think your blood starts to boil inside you which builds pressure too which kills you pretty quickly either way I will check how long anyone can last in space without a suit and I dont want to discredit what you said without research 🙂

I think your right about the shock making Bill unconscious though its still not clear how that can happen with an electric shock and then she can be fine after I mean if its a strong enough shock to make you unconscious then I would presume its gonna do a lot of damage to the individual.

I think we both agree though that the ep was really great even if there is slight query’s and nick picks 🙂 hugs

I have got to listen and have seen some other later eps of series 8 out of order but its still a really nice series so far better than I thought it would be.

Listen was really interesting was there anything at the end or not who knows , I dont think it was the Doctor turning the door or anything and either future Pink has somehow tricked himself by accidentally seting up the door to open at that time each day or whatever or their is something , after watching the ep I was pretty freaked out just thinking about that possibility if something could hide perfectly and I was really annoyed that again Clara gets all the power like come on she made the Doctor scared of the dark urg its soo annoying.

I have mentioned my thoughts on this ep above somewhere feel free to check it out 🙂 hugs

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent Oxygen was one of if not the most recent ep I watched a few weeks ago after diving into series 8 which I am finding really enjoyable so far , I remember liking a lot of oxygen as you say when The Doctor basically told Nardole he knows best and is in charge when he took off without the fluid link it was hilarious and I think the way to avoid the zombies was pretty interesting although I am not sure if the Doctor could have survived outside without Oxygen for soo long although it is the Doctor its possible though Bill being revived basically from what I remember was a bit pushing it I was sure she had died even though I watched series 10 with her and the Doctor so the explanation on how she survived made sense from what I remember but I still wasnt too convinced that she could survive like that , I really liked the they are more valuable alive solution and although it was better than I was expecting and a really great ep 🙂

Hope you enjoy your journey through series 8 (if thats what your doing right now) and series 10.

I look forward to discussing more eps of this wonderful show with you and anyone else on this forum take care everyone hugs 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey everyone hope your all safe , happy and enjoying Doctor Who , sorry I havnt been online on this forum for a few weeks.

I am very much looking forward to talking to you all about this wonderful show and all the wonderful ways you have been staying happy and busy during this awful time through Covid 19 , I hope to hear from you all when possible take care everyone hugs 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent those flame wars sound fun and I love your Sonic Shades statement that was very funny 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @missrori I hope your feel better soon about your work and relationships as the improve , this Covid 19 Crisis is awful but I hope it will end soon and we have learnt how to be kinder to each other, I find this forum and the community here to be marvelous and very caring so as I reckon you know all of us here will support everyone here no matter what, anything I can do to help your relationship with your boyfriend ?

I know it may not be my place to offer help with that personal situation as we just met but the offer is there 🙂

take care Missrori hugs 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @patchlamb that was an very interesting survey I am keen to understand some the terms that I was not sure of.

Thank you for reaching out to all of us with this interesting forum , I hope others will complete it 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @winston mayby its more obvious from what you have said but I think that often younger people are more willing to watch something scary mayby as we are used to more violent games and films than many older people however this is not always the case and what someone has gone through or their belief in certain things can contribute to what scares them or doesn’t scare them.

I am very happy your enjoying this discussion too, its great to hear you enjoyed thinking about the topic and its wonderful you happily shared both your views on it and your Granddaughter’s views on the topic overall from your account as you know her well obviously and I found it heartwarming that she try’s to tag you along when watching something scary (even though its not your cup of tea) as its clear she wants to spend time with you and loves you a lot 🙂

Your welcome for the discussion idea feel free to discuss it with others 🙂

Take care buddie 🙂 hugs

Declan Sargent

 

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hey Dentarthurdent I totally understand what you mean and everyone is scared of different things even if we all have various common fears.

I think there is a difference between watching something you know that scares you or will probably scare you (if you havent seen it before) but you watch it anyway for the thrill and overcoming the scare whereas some things are more physiological like the monster in Listen had me thinking about the concept which scared me more than the moment in the orphanage and often we dont want to face physiological scares which I think is why things we cant see or the dark is scarier most of the time than things we can see.

For my I think that the hidden danger in the Journey to the Center of the Tardis (the time loop) and how that can affect us physiologically as we think about (in other sci fi things) what happens if you go back in time and do you create a new time line, do you have the choice of what your future or previous self will do in the time line ect really plans on my mind if I think about it as no one knows what they would do to beat the time loop situation and re playing that or knowing your gonna become the monster in the ep would be terrifying.

I agree with a lot of the examples you listed though as they are very scary for example I watched Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead recently and the biggest fear for me still in that ep was seeing Miss Evangelista’s face soo much so that I was sweating from anticipation to getting to that scene but I carried on as you say we as Doctor Who fans (due to the nature and fun of the show) dont let the scares stop us from watching and we get through the scares more often than not.

Thank you for your opinion and listed examples they are wonderful 🙂 I think this will be a very interesting topic to hear opinions of from everyone given the variety of what can scare us and what we do about it.

Declan Sargent

 

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hey dentarthurdent you have convinced me that this ep is fabulous with funny little parts like the Prologue and Missy’s demand I will check it out later thank you 🙂 hugs

Declan Sargent

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hey everyone, quick question – what is an ep of New Who (2005-2020) that either scared you or freaked you out soo much for whatever reason that you would try to avoid watching it again even if you are going through an entire series?

I would pick Journey to the Center of the Tardis due to the look and mysterious nature of the Zombie like creatures, the fact they were Clara all along sort of creating a time loop or paradox not sure which one cause as its clear I havent watched the ep since, the cramped space, orange and red colors of the walls ect along with the solution as to how to solve the problem being crazy and even the Doctor isnt sure if it would work all make this ep for me very chilling and scary and how would your break a time loop with our current understanding of time and space which I believe would be terrifying and isolating for anyone.

Declan Sargent

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hey everyone here its wonderful you are all talking to each other and sharing soo kindly, this site and all of you have  honestly helped me a lot through this awful Covid-19 crisis as I cant go back to school or see my friends as I am in the at risk category so not seeing any of my friends for more than half a year has been pretty tough at times so being welcomed into this community with you all as my friends talking about a show I love is amazing and I am very thankful to you all for your kindness, encouraging us all to show our love of Doctor Who passionately and everything you have all done for and said to me hugs 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey dentarthurdent all of those are wonderful suggestions, I love Flatline and after watching Listen I was shaken about thinking of the possibility of the episode ‘if something could perfectly hide’ and we would never know although I am kinda annoyed that Clara is made soo important again like she made the Doctor scared of the dark is what I got through that ending even though she tried comforting him also is it a bit strange he is still scared of the dark even though as the Tenth Doctor he took on and won powerfully against the Vashta Nerada I quesse there could be other dangerous aliens that operate when its dark but beating the most dangerous version of that sure would help you overcome that fear of the dark.

I cant really stand Clara that much mayby she got better with 12th as sometimes she was more focused and reasonable with the task as it wasn’t all about her and she was kind to some people also 12th could shut her down more when she was in the wrong but she was still bossy and ungrateful a lot of the time and her being soo important from 11th’s era and then she got resurrected by the Doctor, got her own Tardis and an immortal companion which basically gave her the power of the Doctor was too much to end her journey in addition to making the Doctor scared of the dark.

I just hope she returns one day and the Doctor stops her cause she honesty could cause devastation throughout time and space and we really think Masey knows enough or doesn’t have a big enough ego to prevent any serious disaster from occurring unlike the Doctor and he has many talents such as speaking every language and a legend so he is respected or feared by a lot of alien species I just dont see them coping with anything similar to what the Doctor faces as their limited knowledge and lack of gadgets like a sonic screwdriver makes them more like time traveling tourists not getting involved too much.

Anyway thats just my opinion on a lot of this of course any one can disagree with it I just think its crazy Clara and her buddy have this much importance and power without earning it or challenging themselves to gain it with serious conviction.

Thanks for your sharing your fav eps with us all I really liked you joking about the elves knowing their Christmas ep is silly I might watch that ep now as I haven’t seen it as I thought it was too bad through some reviews and its similarity to alien and half life with its face huggers ect therefore it didn’t really give off that Christmas vibe but I will check it out at some point 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent I am very happy you are enjoying your adventure through Doctor Who all the way through 🙂

I asked ‘what is your fav ep of New Who from 2005-2020 and why’ for everyone when I joined and perhaps you can share your pick with us, take your time to think about it and whatever you say its your view and thats great dont feel concerned about saying a particular episode for example my fav New Who ep is GridLock and I understand its not everyone’s cup of tea but thats fine 🙂

Declan Sargent

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hey @dentarthurdent its great to have you, everyone is welcome here 🙂

I am not sure if it would work in New Zealand but if you type BBC IPlayer on a Laptop or if your T.V. has it you can watch all New Who episodes from each series for free this may safe you a lot of money as you go into the newer series’s (10-12) so check that out 🙂

I know a lot of people who love the show are not happy with Jodie’s series for various reasons although I think its alright in some areas but thats my opinion however I find it good now to enjoy the ep then see full reviews instead of spoiling the ep for me and having a negative view of the ep before I start.

I have been going through Series 11 and 12 with my Dad, we have finished series 11 and just got past Orphan 55 which I really liked (you can find my opinion on it somewhere on the Sofa) and I am hoping round eps when watching on my own but have been going through Series 8 which is pretty enjoyable and I am starting to appreciate the 12th Doctor and his eps even more now 🙂

Thank you for sharing your wonderful views on the show and some wonderful eps , we look forward to hearing from you again 🙂

Declan Sargent

 

 

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Hey @janetteb‘s out of the three companions I like Graham the most and Ryan is closely behind as Yaz hasn’t really been developed and sometimes its strange how she fails to understand or act upon certain concepts she should know as a Police Officer in training such as smashing her phone when they were being tracked in SpyFall part 2 and possibly knowing the best ways to hide from CCTV ect as Police sometimes have to find criminals who hide from CCTV.

From the Classic Era the Fourth Doctor is my fav closely followed by the Five Doctor each for various reasons such as ‘do you care for a Jelly Baby’ and the adventurous spirit of the young and agile Fourth and Five Doctor respectfully in fact the Five Doctor is like a predecessor to the Tenth Doctor in the way the Doctor goes about things running, wearing funny cloths and making little jokes to the enemies to make himself look stupid which the former is what The Second Doctor did I know but I think it carries on from him to the Fourth and Fifth in the classic era into the Tenth Doctor in the Modern Era and if you watch the Children in Need Special video called Time Crash the Tenth Doctor explains what he gets from the Five Doctor in a wonderful way 🙂

Thank you for listening 🙂

 

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I am slowly getting through series 12 with my Dad after we went all the way through series 11 (the last episode we watched was Orphan 55 which I liked a lot for various reasons) , out of Seris 11 my fav is The Ghost Monument however Kablam was pretty cool, the Witchfinders was funny in a lot of parts and it takes you away I can appreciate some elements however after watching all the eps in the right order it has been out done in some parts.

Seris 12 so far I think overall SpyFall part 2 is better ish cause its a bit quicker mmm there are funny parts such as Grahams funny shoe attack ‘don’t make me do the old shimmy shuffle’ and when they tricked the guards which I didn’t see coming (as I was thinking are you crazy Yaz your a Police Officer in training don’t you realize your gonna be tracked) I was genuinely impressed with them however I find Orphan 55 the best ep in series 12 so far as its pretty relaxing, has a good start I liked the various people in the hotel which we didn’t get to know much off as they were all killed off , I really liked the Green haired Father and Son ‘ I cant remember his name but the Father is from the Inbetweeners and it was really sweet to see him play a more serious and caring role which I think he did very well at , there are some hilarious aspects such as that Old Lady who honestly was useless but hilarious at how bad she was I mean yes she is acting but who decided that she had like one goal and didn’t react to anything seriously even though she was actually pretty normal at the beginning when Yaz spoke to her and Benny , I understand she was likely grieving and in shock but she was endangering the people around her like when she kept screaming ‘Benny’ in the Truck, thinking about it when she said ‘which one of you killed Benny’ to the monsters with her arms in the arm that was priceless.

I got strong Midnight vibes from this ep like the uninhabitable planet, the hotel and when everyone was on the truck which broke down from crashing into a rock (like who was driving that they said it was a trap but didn’t you see it or did it spring out from under the ground which I don’t fully believe as it looks like a bolder that was already above ground even if the monsters could pick it up and use it as a ‘trap’ I cant believe they crashed into it) and the cabin being attacked and damaged , however the similarity’s changed a bit as they went through the SubWay tunnel (like in that Yeti ep with the Second Doctor) and went back to the Hotel.

I really liked Ryan and that girl flirting with each other in the Hotel, getting to know each through lying about their careers haha and developing a relationship which was sweet and they worked well together.

I liked the look of the virus bug in the vending machines and it was interesting that it could hack biological and mechanical things even though its a bit plot convenience in fact the food and the hotel room where the vending machines are look pretty good and futuristic and I would be happy to spend time at the hotel apart from the threat of Dregs yes I just remembered their names now haha.

Ryan’s ‘girlfriends’ mother was a bit one dimensional, she was alright until she said to the Women ‘I shoot Benny’ to her face which was too harsh , she kinda redeemed herself at the ending though of which I was shocked of the fact the Doctor left all the other quests behind I think the two green haired people were going to teleport of the Planet but what about Ryan’s ‘girlfriend and her Mother’ I reckon they are finished unless I missed something, like at least the Doctor could have rescued or recruited Ryan’s ‘girlfriend’ and no one really reflected on that fact like the Doctor abandoning them at the end of the ep which was a bit of a unimpactful ending to the ep but overall I really like this ep as you can tell, I could go on more but this is probs my longest discussion of an ep and it would take ages to discuss everything about this ep (I give Orphan 55 an 7.5 up to 8 out of 10)

I am not sure if its the same for you where you are but it may be possible for you to search BBC IPlayer on your T.V. as some have a list of options like All 4 and BBC IPlayer

I am sorry guys if my long texts are getting annoying I can try and cut them down in the future if its a problem.

Thank you all for listening and Janetteb’s lovely discussion 🙂

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hey everyone, what do you all think about Jodie’s era of Doctor Who and have you watched series 11 and 12 fully or lost interest along the way ?

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@arbutus I totally agree with the majority of what you said and I love this episode, you have made some really good points like Malcolm being wonderful and the episode is lovely espically to watch with the family therefore I will point out some other aspects I liked about the episode, I love the flying aliens and even though I dont like flys cause they are a bit gross the episode makes you feel bad for the 2 fly survivors and what happened to their city and it was a shame they are probs extinct cause they didnt want to leave the ship (which is honorable) however it didnt give them enough time to flee, the flying bus was great, and the people on the bus felt genuine actually the show could actually have the flying rays back again cause the Doctor didnt really stop them he just closed off the wormhole to London so they would likely show up on other planets which would be kinda interesting but it could be hard to pull off the atmosphere and originally of the episode without ripping it off and I dont actually think the Doctor could stop billions of them unless he blows up the whole planet which I dont think he would do unless there is another city in danger that he could actually save this time

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@janetteb Thank you for sharing your personal account of the episode, what Donna faced would have been awful beyond comprehension for anyone let alone any parent such as yourself, its clear that those two episodes can affect people in various ways given different circumstances, time or 0ther aspects.

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@janetteb thank you for your kind welcome, I am very happy that this discussion is very much loved its great to hear everyone’s thoughts on wonderful episodes they love for various reasons.

I recently watched Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead and it was soo thrilling, I remember as a kid it scared me very much but I often said ‘who turned of the lights’ to my Dad as we both watched it together and it became a little joke which was sweet 🙂

The parts that really scared me as a kid was Dona’s dream world you know for example the kids questioning if they are real or not (which I think they know they aren’t real), the red sky and Miss Evangelista’s face that was the worst in fact re watching it I was sweating with fear from anticipating seeing that face its soo creepy.

There is soo much that makes the 2 episodes amazing such as the shadows as they are great and scary (especially as I get really freaked out by seeing human skulls probs as a result of watching the episode as a kid) and the Doctor getting angry at them ‘don’t play games with me’ and they retreat its wonderful that part really shows the power and threat of the Doctor which you don’t see as much now and with David Tenants excellent acting capabilities as you all know its an incredible 2 parter.

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hey @winston , I haven’t seen Rose fully but I know many love it, my fav episode of the modern series is GridLock and I know its not everyones cup of tea but I believe it was the first if not one of the first episodes I saw of Doctor Who and I loved it then as the Doctor was awesome, the cars looked cool, the Macra were scary and soo many reasons at the time and re watching it recently the episode resonates with me differently which makes it even better yet some aspects always stay the same like the thrills of the Macra nearly getting the car Martha was in and the joy of the Doctor jumping into cars below him in a funny ‘I am the Highway Inspection person how is your time on the Moterway’ montage overall the episode makes me very ‘happy happy’ 🙂 thank you for welcoming me into the Community 🙂

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hey everyone, I am new to this community and would love to talk with you all about Doctor Who 🙂

Quick question – What is your fav episode from the modern series (2005-2020)

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