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9 January 2013 at 00:37 #971
Tennant’s website is useful
News of 11 months of screenings at the BFI, Southbank London – each month a different Doctor, followed by Q&As <squeals with excitement and I don’t even live anywhere near London!>
Also clip of his recent Jonathon Ross interview
And apparently congrats are due – he’s just announced he’s going ot be a daddy again. Aw 🙂
9 January 2013 at 00:31 #967Think this is more speculation than spoilerish but just warning (they say “expected to” ) –
Herald Scotland have speculation about possible reappearances of a Scottish bent –
Casting and location news from the Irvine Herald of all places!
(Am assuming people are OK with posting this in here rather than spoilers but let me know if not)
Re Tennant – summed up by this report of his interview with Jonathon Ross this week (with links to the interview) (and apparently he’s going to be a dad again 🙂 )
V short interview (last November) when he says “… anniversary celebrations? are there going to be any…?!”
I mean there’s denials and then there’s shouting from the rooftops that you don’t know anything, LOL
9 January 2013 at 00:07 #955Zoe
9 January 2013 at 00:02 #951I’m sure it’ll be good…
What do you mean good? Nothing less than great, amazing, mind-blowingly perfect is going to be enough!! (No pressure then Moff!)
8 January 2013 at 23:57 #949Re multiple Doctors – I’m for it so long as it isn’t gimmicky. ie if there’s a strong plot-driven reason for it. I think they should also be truthful/respectful re the real situation that some of them are no longer with us. ie I don’t think they should replace them with other actors, even sons (tho that’s not the worst idea). Better if they are recorded or transmitted or remembered voices.
Ten’s been quoted all over the place as saying he has no comment at all on the 50th show – so in the best Yes Minister tradition I take that as meaning he’s definitely in it! 🙂 (I suspect Eccleston would need to be convinced by the script)
8 January 2013 at 23:48 #947@janetteb re Spoilers
Sometimes though information is deliberately shared, ie if we hadn’t known that Clara was to be the next assistant AOTD would not have had the impact it did. It is often difficult to decide what is and isn’t a spoiler.
That’s a very good point. (The Who Team managed that brillantly)
8 January 2013 at 23:43 #945McCoy was brilliant in the Hobbit (Wizard Radagast)
8 January 2013 at 23:36 #941OOOH! Nice thinking @wolfweed and @bluesqueakpip
Mind blown with that one. 🙂
Been thinking about 50 years since that post earlier about the approx 50 year discrepancy in the newspaper articles. Didn’t the Ponds get thrown back 50 years? (Or have I made that up – I’m sure it came into the discussions after Angels take Manhattan).
Of course they could just be riffing on a theme…
8 January 2013 at 12:15 #759@juniperfish re @craig – seconded, wholeheartedly – complete star. I’m amazed at what’s been set up so far. It’s been discussed as a possibility since at least last September. @craig jumped in at the eleventh hour (on the G blog) and saved the day by creating this lovely new nest/escape pod. (It’s even got it’s own “registration confirmation” security bots on the door 🙂 )
And yes, we are very early days here, so absolutely no worries re any of it. In time this could be as big and exciting as the TARDIS as we add new rooms and topics! We’re definitely bigger on the inside 🙂
8 January 2013 at 11:58 #755Spoilers – If we could agree basic terms of reference eg that discussion stemming from info on BBC site, episode titles etc is OK, we could include those terms in the site info. Do we need to email everyone to ask, so that there’s a positive opt-in?
Re 50th- was just thinking… y’know how they have reality shows to find eg Dorothy (was Katharine Jenkins not in one for opera singers?)…? They could set one up to find the next companion (open to all, non terrestrials welcome). Imagine if they auditioned for the Doctor this way. (Aaaagh! Don’t you hate it when a horrible idea comes into your head then won’t go away? 🙂 )
8 January 2013 at 11:45 #751@craig – is it possible to do a “like” button? Sometimes you don’t need to make a specific comment but just mark approval if there’s a post you particularly agree with.
8 January 2013 at 11:42 #747@craig (sorry for multiple taggings this morning!)
You mentioned there were about 17 people like Juniperfish who had partly registered but weren’t fully signed up. Did you email them all?
8 January 2013 at 11:38 #745re additional threads/topics. I think this is a good idea (I’m assuming just setting up the threads doesn’t take too long). It means that those who want to go and discuss other things can do so without clogging up discussions on other topics. If people aren’t interested they won’t comment. If only a few people want to comment on eg fanfic or related youTube links that’s also OK – providing space for minorities is good thing 🙂 Use will go up and down over time anyway depending on people’s work and sleep patterns. At the moment we’re still in the first flush of excitement at our new home and housemates.
J-fish – re Guardian articles – you’re right – I forgot that for most of them the most interesting thing was meeting you lot below the line LOL. And it’s mainly Dan’s blog that pulled in the big postings. But a little judicious posting of the link won’t go amiss.
Re search engines – it sometimes takes a while for new sites to start showing up. @craig – what metatags have you used?
8 January 2013 at 11:27 #741@blenkinsopthebrave Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a way to DM people through the G site (unless anyone knows different).
So we need to leave a link every so often on the CiFs we think will be the most likely to attract people who want to get involved in bonkers posting. And if we see anyone we know making a post, should reply with a link and an invite – now FINALLY I see a good use for nesting. Otherwise try to post the link where it will be seen – near the top or bottom of a page. But shouldn’t do it too often – otherwise we may pull in a few trolls as well, tho hopefully the registration process should put them off.
(PS Am based in the northern half of the UK, but spend a fair bit of timeshifting and generally being naturally nocturnal 🙂 )
8 January 2013 at 11:12 #735Nipping on to the G site reinforces what a moany, grumpy bunch most internet posters are 🙂 And what a cosy, comfortable new home you’ve built for us @craig (thank you x 1m). I see you’ve even installed a big comfy sofa (big enough for everyone since we technically occupy no space in this virtual environ) and space to hide behind!)
8 January 2013 at 11:06 #733Posting this here till we get a General thread
🙂
Guardian article re the National TV Award nominations (Predictable comments at the end)
If we’ve got time, I think we should keep commenting on these articles. Just to keep the numbers up, so they keep reporting Who news. Then CiF hopefully won’t mind if we leave a link to this site from time to time. It’s interesting how many commenters they’ve lost on the Who threads. Us 24 didn’t really make the difference of 500+ pages did we????!
8 January 2013 at 10:34 #731Re Spoilers etc – I agree with @blenkinsopthebrave – err on side of caution 🙂
I remember from previous discussions that there was general agreement re OK taking the risk that the speculation might lead to us solving it in advance – but the consensus was that the chance of catching more than 1 or 2 elements was miniscule! (Which seems to be pretty much borne out by our track record!). Unless we stumble across it on the infinite no of monkeys principle.
I suggest – as @phaseshift mentioned, if it’s on the BBC website, or in the press releases, that is info that they want out there, and is OK for main discussions. Episode titles are inevitably teases – eg The Doctor’s Wife
A separate thread I think would be useful for those who want to discuss rumours etc from other sources
8 January 2013 at 10:13 #729LOL @ 50 Shades of Who 🙂 (Esp given the frequency with which the early companions used to be captured and tied up (with a wide variety of techy handcuffs), skimpy costumes etc. The Master, Dominators…!!)
Addition to @juniperfish‘s wishlist – the TARDIS in some form – having given her a voice once, she has to find it again for the 50th
(And for the record, having seen John Simms in other roles, I’d be happy to see him back; he’s very versatile actor. The Master could be very different character coming back, having a new understanding of how he was manipulated from very young age)
8 January 2013 at 09:52 #727@bluesqueakpip There’s just no way that prop is anything other than deliberate. Why reference a Japanese Prime Minister in a story set in Victorian England anyway….? (50 years later, hmm?)
It’s either a joke or a clue
8 January 2013 at 09:47 #725And please don’t shut down topic threads – that’s why we migrated from the G site.
The “most recent posts” will alert people to when someone’s added something if it’s an older thread. Using the @…… format will let posters know if one of their posts has been directly replied to. And I like that you get notifications of when you’ve been referenced
8 January 2013 at 09:40 #721Re cross posting, site design
I think, better to keep to topic threads, as much as possible. Inevitably they’ll cross-over a bit (haha – that’s why the Grauniad introduced nesting) but I think it will settle down as we use it. There will be an element of being fractured in time/different timelines, but I think it will be manageable. It’s an evolving, organic beastie
Separate topic thread for 7b (it may be quiet to start with but it will evolve its own life, LOL
Can you also add “General” one? (at the moment the General header just has Website as topic thread
Other threads (eg for off-topic, fanfic, youTube links etc) can be created as the demand arises. (OMG I could end up living in here!! It’s feeling far too comfortable already, LOL)
@craig – is it possible to increase the no of recent posts to 10? (I find it really helpful in seeing what’s been updated since I was last on)
8 January 2013 at 09:27 #719Ooo – lots of exciting posts!
@edmund – just wow! impressive observation – I noticed the card was being given a prominent position (which is why I suspect GI might be back), but didn’t notice the newspaper. Now the address on the card I could easily be convinced was a simple error, but you can’t explain the newspaper that way. The prop-maker isn’t going to go to all the bother of mocking up a newspaper page from 1890s and then reference a completely different period for the other story. Unless it’s a prop-maker’s joke of course!)
I like the theory about the fractured universe, tho my brain is tying itself in knots trying to work out all the implications. 😀
7 January 2013 at 22:24 #663LOL @bluesqueakpip‘s canon
It’s handy having 11 Doctors – not just a football team, also 11 month countdown. (New Zealand TV are doing a Doctor/month)
@juniperfish – timelock/Clara/key – really like it, but maybe a bit BtVS. Sure Moffat could put his own spin on it though
7 January 2013 at 22:15 #661@juniperfish – couldn’t find my other avatar so made a new one. Maybe I should friendly it up a bit, but it seemed appropriate 🙂
Master (who?) and TimeLords, yes. And jelly babies AND jammy dodgers. Daleks? They could come in wheeling a big birthday cake (and/or a souffle) and everyone joins in a big chorus of happy birthday… (and say they were only kidding about the Pandorica)
<I’ll get my coat 🙂 >
7 January 2013 at 22:07 #657And thanks @phaseshift for the Big Audio info – can hopefully catch it on iplayer or equivalent.
Re spoilers – while @rob‘s idea of white type is inspired, I’d really appreciate if it was also on another thread. It’s too easy to forget in the (white) heat of a newsy post, and relies on people knowing how eg I don’t.
I suspect it’s going to be very difficult/impossible to avoid all spoilers as we get closer – if Moff manages to do only a smidgeon of what he’s promising in terms of the amount of Who related stuff that’s going to be around (“Surprises!”) the press are going to be all over it by Oct/Nov. Not to mention being desperate for clues as to who’s going to be in it – they’ll be haunting the locations in April. OTOH the Who team managed to blindside everyone with Oswin’s first appearance so hopefully he can keep most of the press on side again. I’m sure there will be a few sniffing around for late night clandestine out-of-season filming sessions with mysterious hooded figures trying to look anonymous.
7 January 2013 at 21:56 #651<waves @juniperfish – Glad you finally made it from the other side (the fishy clan seem to be developing into a full blown shoal!)>
That sounds a good list to me! (I’m up for McGann as well – he’s canon as far as NuWho is concerned – otherwise the numbering doesn’t work. Haven’t even watched the movie yet – missed it when it was screened. just succumbed and ordered the DVD)
And yes, Canton, please please please!
(ROFL at Doctors chasing each other round the Tardis)
7 January 2013 at 04:08 #593Re rumours – that’s a good point @bobbingbird
Personally, I prefer to be able to choose to avoid them completely. It’s amazing how 1 word or a glimpsed image can set off a train of thought that you’d prefer not to think about till you find it in episode. Personally I like coming to episodes as cold as possible.
@craig, @phaseshift – How about a separate spoilers thread? Not out and out spoilers but rumours and press (slightly informed) speculations Eg if it’s similar to the leaked pic of Liberty as an angel I’d prefer to be able to avoid it.
What does everyone else think? I know some people don’t even want to know the episode titles beforehand.
LOL – Spoilers/Rumours Thread – that will be like having a big red button saying Do Not Press :-p
7 January 2013 at 03:53 #589@bobbingbird – welcome back and hope the ironing went well I posted about the eshorts a couple of days ago, but I’ll let you off 🙂
I found a link a wee while back to New Zealand TV but can’t find it again. They were going to be running selection of episodes for each of the Doctors over the next 11 months (1 Doctor/month). From the very 1st one (inc the reconstructed ones). Makes me wish I was in NZ, but at least it’s not quite as (almost) tantalisingly close for you. Presume NZ TV doesn’t travel as far as Oz?
7 January 2013 at 03:45 #585Not quite sure where to post this, so I’ll put it here.
Note – MAYBE VERY SLIGHTLY, VAGUELY SPOILERISH? (lLocation for upcoming episode. Possibly)
Affleck in episode of Dr Who   (and no, not that one)
Ha Ha – Irvine Herald scoops the world – well, OK that’s an exaggeration, it doesn’t really give anything away. (Go local press!)
@bluesqueakpip – interesting article tho most of it went waaaay over my head 🙂 Quantum Gas would be good name for a band tho 😎
7 January 2013 at 03:16 #581@phaseshift Thanks for posting the link. Beautiful. This is one of thse episodes I always seem to get something in my eye towards the end! And completely agree wit @craig – Tony Curran is a joy to watch.
Came across this while I was on youTube – v funny – Outtakes and Funny bits for 10, 11 (watch out for the cyberman and the dancing angels!) . This also – a couple of overlaps but there’s more cybermen in the park. (Warning: you may never take them seriously again)
5 January 2013 at 15:40 #441And while my brain’s still working on thngs whovian – anyone checked out any of the merch for sale recently?
What’s the best/tackiest things you’ve found?
I’d like to nominate this under tacky – The Eggsterminator egg cup! (Actually they seem to be hedging their bets – Star Wars lettering, Alien ref and supposedly daleky appearance) (Now the Tardis bin OTOH… damn, it’s a long time till next Christmas!)
(It may only go downhill from here, people)
5 January 2013 at 15:09 #437And the recent posts listing is VERY handy
5 January 2013 at 15:08 #435“Event drama” – heard rumours they want to do it live. Hmm, not so sure about that – there are some things about the 1960s that should stay there! For 1 thing it would have to be not special effects driven. For another it’s gimicky – unless there’s a really good reason to do it that way… Or do something with the internet…? (@blenkinsopthebrave‘s 4th wall theory pops its head up again, in slightly mutated form)
Moff is excited about it “being all over the TV” – or has this changed since they announced the 90 min special?
What would your wildest fanboy/girl dream be for the anniversary epi/celebraions?
5 January 2013 at 14:59 #4335 January 2013 at 14:33 #421Re suggestions for topic threads – How about one for the 50th? Plot speculations, news posts etc… inc alerts/links for eg the audio stories. Pretty please?
<tugs forelock ingratiatingly>
Meanwhile this is circulating re 11 “top children’s authors” being commissioned to come up with 1 eshort each, released monthly till Nov. Probables inc JK Rowling, Philip Pullman…Â http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-03/series-of-doctor-who-short-stories-announced-to-celebrate-50th-anniversary
5 January 2013 at 13:57 #415Funny looking back at the old blogs, bloggers and bonkers theories 🙂
And a good idea to revisit – Cold Blood (BBC3 repeats) as good a place to start as any… unless there’s anyone in this forum who is geeky enough to provide access to any other downloads/DVD availability (libraries useful for those short of funds), for the colonial enthusiasts. Same goes for discussion on past epis/serial. Happy to revisit just not sure how!
4 January 2013 at 08:44 #333<squeals in delight @blenkinsopthebrave‘s news>
90min special – yippee! (I’m assuming the rest of this season will be about getting the series to the starting blocks for the final run-in to November’s epi. Expect a mega cliffhanger in May)
Re separate thread to discuss dvds and other products – that would get my vote. I’m not even sure what’s out there, so would be helpful. (LOVED Reign of Terror – thought it was very scary (bit vague on the details though 🙂 )
4 January 2013 at 08:27 #331Other Clara identity theories from elsewhere include Spatial Genetic Multiplicity, Boemina, Faction Paradox, a TARDIS (but not necessarily the TARDIS), the Universe (incarnate), the result of psychic pollen, Captain Jack in drag, a Ganger, Susan’s daughter, Braithwaite, The Master, The Rani, The Tesselector, Schroedinger’s Cat, Donna, a Computer Logic and Reasoning Android, an anagram(Arcadia/Cardinal/Rassilon/Osiran), The Red Guardian, and many more…
Glad to see you’ve managed to whittle down the theories 🙂
Re avatars – @wolfweed, sorry I thought you looked like something @chickenelly would put in her pipe! @phaseshift – hmmm, you’re looking decidedly more sinister since becoming a mod!
3 January 2013 at 16:20 #285LMAO @phaseshift 😀
3 January 2013 at 13:19 #277@miapatrick – yes indeedy! (Creepy enough the first time round, then picked up the Pond ref on 2nd viewing) I suspect that one of being coincidence, but you never know. Trust no-one
@blenkinsopthebrave‘s post(s) about the TARDIS makeover. Good question. It MAY just be part of the overall revamping and tarting up for the 50th – Matt’s new jacket etc, new image (not god-doctor any more). There’s a lot of things referencing 70s Who at the moment (Matt even had a scarf (albeit a grey one) in the Snowmen, the new jacket looks decidedly Pertwee-ish; and are those Troughtonish checked trousers?). OTOH – he’s just retired. What do you do? Do up the house, all the little jobs you’ve been putting off for years (or centuries). Feeling a bit more austere maybe, decluttering.
He’s obv not had time to work on to the outside yet 🙂
3 January 2013 at 11:06 #271Viewing figs just out http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/02/doctor-who-iplayer-bbc-christmasÂ
(haha, chuckled at the snarky comment (CiF) about expecting 15 pages of comments, LOL)
Record 1.5m iPlayer views, and 9.87m altogether (6th place)
And apparently making big gains in USA also.
3 January 2013 at 09:50 #267@blenkinsopthebrave – for Clara to be River/Doctor’s daughter just seems v incestuous. But hey! I said that last year when people were suggesting River as Amy’s daughter :-p
3 January 2013 at 09:46 #265Speculation – “Clara is the most important person the Dr will meet” (paraphrased) – Maybe that’s Moff-speak for she’s the person who gets him out of his depression!
Is Susan well enough known for the viewers of NuWho to be introduced as a plot element?
Any speculation on Clara’s home time? ie is she from past or future? Is Oswin the “original” ie the reason she got “fractured” or is Oswin one of the “copies”?
3 January 2013 at 00:00 #253@blenkinsopthebrave – I tend to agree with you re why she’s not the TARDIS, both good reasons. I also don’t think her speech is quite wacky enough for the TARDIS.
Re her being Timelord, as I posted above (it was a looong post, sorry) – does the Dr not have a sixth sense when other TLs are about? Which knocks out Susan, Jenny or any other relative. (Unless it’s one with a fob watch).
Lots of lovely theories but none I can make fit comfortably in the context of family teatime TV!
PS @craig @phaseshift would get my vote for moderator, if it’s OK with him
2 January 2013 at 12:20 #1732 January 2013 at 12:16 #171Just came across this video clip on the Who website – http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0129kly – Moffat explaining that he thinks Day of the Daleks is one of who’s finest stories. It introduces Blinovitch and the Doctor’s status as a time traveller -Moff says – “a handy get out. the Doctor can interfere because he’s outside the history”
Also this one – talking about The Evil of the Daleks – http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogdrwho/articles/Day-4-Steven-Moffat-on-The-Evil-of-the-Daleks
Moffat talking about how he loves juxtaposition of the unexpected in Who, and about it being a mistake to make the daleks bigger “they’re scarier when they’re wee”. (Pity he didn’t think that before he let the design dept come up with the new paradigm daleks)
Daleks are featured heavily on the Who site at the moment – does this suggest they’ll make a return later? Is it all in the first episode? ie Oswin, realising she’s been dalekised at the end, doesn’t blow herself up but transfers herself into the dalek mainframe? (I know this isn’t a new idea, just throwing it back in the ring). Since then she’s either throwing out “avatars” to give herself an alternative existence (eternity gets boring presumably), or she’s trying to make contact with the Doctor, as the person who can give her a physical form again. Somehow. Or because she likes him. Or maybe too like River in the library.
2 January 2013 at 11:31 #169@miapatrick Re rebooted universe – I think we’re meant to believe it’s pretty much the same as the old universe – but obv – much like your rebooted computer hard drive – it leaves them scope to tweak it a bit (some things won’t have survived the crash, unexpected new things may appear).
@blenkinsopthebrave (sympathies on work – still enjoying holiday here – occasionally Scotland is almost civilised!) One reason for reinventing River could be a practical one. It’s been 5 years since SitL (which we know is the oldest she’ll get) and AK will be 50 this year, don’t know if her schedule will fit with more Dr Who. (I hope not, but it’s a thought that keeps occurring). Or a River protege as @whisht suggested.
Re Avatars/god things – see ref above to semi-sentient universe (but not in the way we’d know it!) – I quite like this idea but can’t help thinking it will be something more “concrete”
@bobbingbird – Papal mainframe – sorry, don’t buy this one tho it’s good to explore every possibility. I think that was just a neat throwaway line.
@chickenelly – nice call on mirrors; may just be “texture” but one to look out for
@whisht BTW was it the Great Intelligence that took over the TARDIS and exploded it/crashed it into Amy Ponds garden? I’ve probbly missed something there(!) Maybe not the actual crash, but there are a few scenes with an unseen sinister voice which is still unaccounted for. I have a suspicion the GI will make a return appearance this season, because of the fact the doctor didn’t remember it. But I’m probably wrong. Again!
More thoughts on running – it’s what the Doctor always does. “Run” has been his catch phrase for a while. So while “run” may be significant re Clara, it’s also what the Doctor does when he’s excited. “New” also suggests he’s excited and curious.
Last thoughts for now – I loved the way the Doctor was so excited when he was showing Clara round the TARDIS.
1 January 2013 at 18:55 #147Greetings and a happy new year to you all. Is everyone in 2013 now?A brand new blog for the anniversary year – feels good (Kudos to the Keymaster). And long may it stay a troll free zone 🙂 (Had a little makeover to celebrate (ie couldn’t find my other pic!))
re Clara – some slightly fuzzy alcohol-induced thoughts
Great work on all the computer refs @BluesqueakpipIt would seem likely she’s some sort of computer generation – but is there an original Clara controlling it, or is she unaware of what she is and someone/thing else is controlling her appearances? Or maybe it’s just random. Why was she shown completely uninjured after the fall? I know it’s Xmas Day teatime, but not even a token little scratch? (Or the computer refs are Moff having a tease)
Is she a timelady with a fob watch somewhere – the fob watch sending out the equivalent of SOS signal (maybe it looks for passing time lords) – otherwise you’d think the Doctor would sense “timelord” from her. That also applies if she’s “family” Â Evidence? No idea – it just bubbled up as a possibility!
Something to do with the TARDIS? (evidence – the way she turns up at crucial times, “run”; But she doesn’t have that multi-faceted way of not quite making sense when she talks, the way Idris did, so although I like the idea, am not convinced yet)
Is she River working on an escape from the virtual reality (which must be driving her bonkers by now)? Evidence – the way she talks, she’s clever, flirty and mysterious
Something that connects with his past on Galifrey (I like the idea of an origin story… so long as he leaves some questions (given it’s Moff I think more questions than answers are extemely likely)) (If she’s Susan’s mum that’s a problem as something must have happened to her if the Dr runs off with her as a baby (or when she’s older – no saying she couldn’t have joined as a teenager)) <hmmm – new(ish) theory developing…?!!>
“Run you clever boy” – To or from…?
Will Clara somewhere/when need rescued for real?
Do we think they’re going to tease her mystery out throughout the season, or resolve it more quickly and get on to adventures?
@bluesqueakpip ‘s noticing re the voiceovers. I wondered them too (hadn’t noticed it wasn’t credited) but it didn’t sound like JLC
I also liked the recent theory someone came up with about a semi-sentient universe (but not in a way that we’d recognise as even semi-sentient!) that actually does care
Finally –
Moffat’s methods – I think as a writer he starts with a dramatic visual or two (11 hanging on by his fingernails as out of control tardis flies over London, Dr being locked in Pandorica, Amy glooped, the staircase etc) and a mind-bending idea that knocks something you’ve taken for granted upside down (see above). He likes to drop clues early on but also red herrings. He likes to play with names, which may or may not be significant to the plot
Conclusions – no idea!!
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