Empire of Death

[syzygy @thane16]

@juniperfish “ …Bad Wolf” …. Oh very noice!

[has.ayres @t2662]

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[dwnerdfrommars @dwnerdfrommars]

@krathoon I agree. This season is far away from what Doctor Who truly was.

[WhoHar @whohar]

@miapatrick

in this light of this I do have a first Pratchett recommendation: going postal. It’s very much on this theme.

I’ve just finished reading this. Most excellent, and I’m now going to go onto Making Money and then Raising Steam. I went on t’interwebs and discovered a whole Discworld Reading Order “map”. It’s a whole new world I tells ya! Anyhoo, thanks again.

@ps1l0v3y0u

And, keeping with the literary theme, I also picked up a copy of The Mabinogion.  Only skimmed it so far, but it also looks great.  Thanks.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dwnerdfrommars

The series… 4 good, 2 questionable, 2 (the finale) bad. My theory is it all takes place within a reconstituted Matrix (DW NOT Keeanu Reeves).

I still have a few spare straws if you need something to clutch.

@whohar

My familiarity with The Mabinogion is cursory. The story of Tigernos, whose horses keep being stolen and cuts off the arm of the monster responsible is pretty remarkable… the British riff on Beowulf and Grendel??

[Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent]

So in the first four minutes, RTD just killed *everybody*. Like, not just impersonal universe destruction like the Flux, but all the characters get turned to dust individually.

(10 minutes later) I was wrong, Sutech’s dust of death *is* destroying the whole universe. This is going to take one hell of a Reset button.
The ‘everybody’s dead’ reminds me of Red Dwarf Episode 1 –
LISTER: Where is everybody, Hol?
HOLLY: They’re dead, Dave.
LISTER: Who is?
HOLLY: Everybody, Dave. (and so on)

We do get an explanation of ’73 yards’ – it’s a perception filter (aka the Somebody Else’s Problem field?)

I have to admit, this whole story has got me intrigued, even though I understand very little of it.

I have to say the piles of dust remind me even more strongly of Episode 1 of Red Dwarf. As in:
LISTER: Oh, this is terrible. And why is it so dirty around here, Hol? What is this stuff?
(dips his finger in another pile and tastes it.)
HOLLY: That is Catering Officer Olaf Petersen.

 

Okay, I have to admit I did love the way they trapped Sutech, corny though it was.

And that was one hell of a Reset button.

Ruby’s encounter with Louise – I’m all intrigued to see how RTD handles this. Moff would have handled it brilliantly (IMO), let’s see how RTD does 🙂
Okay, he did all right.

So, happy ending after all. And Mrs Flood remains a mysterious character.

So, as final (double) episodes go, it was – middling.   Not terrible, not outstanding.

[janetteB @janetteb]

@dentarthurdent the Red Dwarf quotes made me laugh aloud and I have seen that episode so many times, “everybody is dead Dave”. It is the droll way he says it. We quote that often, along with, “there’s an emergency going on” in that same flat voice.

I really need to do a re watch of the last two episodes. As usual I think my reaction to the ending is influenced by all the wonderful bonkers theorising that goes on here. Nothing could ever match up. On third or forth viewing I can usually appreciate the episodes for what they are and not see them through the filter of my expectations. I was hoping that Susan would be Susan but at least Susan the granddaughter was talked about. It is all about continuity or rather the lack of in Dr Who. she is a timelord, she can regenerate. there are infinite story possibilities there as yet untapped.

Agreed on first watch it was middling. RTD has done many a worse series finale but overall series as a good start and I am so excited for the Christmas Special.

cheers

Janette

[Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent]

@janetteb    I haven’t read all the posts in this forum (but I will).    But this double-episode has so many details in it, I’m sure a re-watch (or several) will bring up all sorts of things I overlooked first time round.   Especially in the time window.

As seasons go, yes I’d rank this one as quite good.

 

 

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@dentarthurdent

I do need to watch these 2 eps before the xmas special. Been putting it off. The finale, as I remember it, was pretty unsatisfactory, even compared with those two rather odd opening eps. Will attempt it however.

The middle of the series was first rate. Even Rogue was very entertaining. Strange about the rest…

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