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    Now that’s a story.

    My nearest is a fifth-former, when I was in 6th and in charge of the stage sound booth, trying to trick me into playing Plaistow Patricia to morning assembly. It hadn’t occurred to the tedious little shit that I was totally familiar with it (someone else can post it though1).

    Besides, I already chosen this which (genuinely) impressed the school’s RE teacher:

    geoffers @geoffers

    @whisht – i’m glad you enjoyed the caravan palace! they have new music coming sometime this year, and i’ll be making whatever effort is needed to see them in concert, if they tour the states, again. from what i’ve seen on youchube, they put on quite an energetic show… hopefully i can keep up!

    as for zappa, i bought ‘jazz from hell’ on cassette in the late 80’s, thinking it would be similar to ‘man from utopia’ or ‘sheik yerbouti.’ wow, was i ever so disappointed?! “lost in the noodles?” more like assaulted by flagellating, noodley appendages! 😀  it’s the most impenetrable album i’ve ever listened to (er, tried -and failed- to listen to, actually). i knew frank was fond of pushing the envelope, but it came across as a big middle finger to me. it’s “music,” for sure, but my puny human brain just can’t handle it. it’s my go-to example of music that’s all technical proficiency, but devoid of emotion… and that defeats the entire purpose (for me) of listening to music. there’s a lot of jazz that strays into that area, and i have to bail. i don’t listen to music to get a headache!

    but i like that go-betweens song, it’s so 80’s! i don’t think it’s (solely) nostalgia that makes that decade so bittersweet, but the transition from analog to digital, and the wholesale revamping of the music insustry, that happened at the end of it. they literally don’t make music like that, anymore. (tho, thankfully, some still write solid tunes like that.)

    syzygy @thane16

    Ah, TRB, Tran Stacey. Niiice. I mean, Stan Tracey -links with Ambler etc. Very talented pianists. Parents were considered pretty far right conservative in the late ’80s and Ambler  against advice, played for the TRB for a few gigs “just temp, mind, lads, OK?” and ended up staying for awhile

    @whisht That’s a terrific story!  The da-da duh in particular was very cool.  @pedant same. Except Plaistow Patricia is one I don’t know at all and thus would’ve been obliged to play it. The Plaistow is the cooking chocolate, no?

    I see there have been many words written by Thane! I think he’s exaggerating a little. I wasn’t locked in the study for hours -well, a couple, here and there. I have old tapes there ….and he’s let that cat out of the bag. But I have internet and… I know the song.

    Shall I tell it?

    OK. I won’t. Not yet. Thank you @whisht Brisbane’s only band except for Savage Garden who were technically Brisbanish though lived in less auspicious Loganholme. Shit they never looked that good at school, for sure. Their one and only album was a bit ‘meh.’

    So, @geoffers that has been fun AS (something teens say, they never finish the sentence. A little like “Good, but.”).

    Clues. You need clues.

    It’s hot.

    It’s forev-AH (big clue).

    No chicks because of the grunt.

    Band of blokes.

    Drumming on tables

    Beach in the background.

    Aaaaand the word “cold.”

    Come ON! This is easy!! 🙂


    PS: Final Clue. Worth a loss of 10 points? Yes?

    The main guy doesn’t live in Australia very often. Mainly where you are. And, if you listen to J…ah… him, talk, you’ll realise he’s quite “English.” or British.

    syzygy @thane16


    That’s the argument against a lot of music, isn’t it? Just how impenetrable it can be. Despite trying, JM Jarre wasn’t easy for me. Oxygene’s brilliant. But after 30 mins I panic and freak out. I find the intense orchestration and lack of pitch variation monotonous. Obviously I was hated for this opinion! “Ah, Puro you are SO lite! You and your Mozart and Haydn. Don’t you just die for Mahler?”

    Ok, that was from a film I loved. But still. Music needs melodies that rise and fall. History shows us those are passed down and repeated. I was thinking of Twisted Sister’s We’re not Gonna Take It now used by the foul Clive Palmer in his “Vote for the UAP!”  but naturally changing the scansion so it sounds a little like @pedant‘s favourite film where Bill Nighy (don’t mention that vapid dude who’s in love with a girl who’s just married his best mate) tries to add an extra syllable to a song that was once a hit.

    Speaking of Nighy….there’s a strange series -an Agatha Christie – starring the venerable Nighy  that looks  horrorific. Has it been well received in the UK?


    ichabod @ichabod

    @thane16  Speaking of Nighy….there’s a strange series -an Agatha Christie – starring the venerable Nighy  that looks  horrorific. Has it been well received in the UK?

    Hi, Puro — if you mean, “Ordeal by Innocence”, I saw that on Netflix, I think, and enjoyed it, but I haven’t seen anything by way of reaction to it.

    syzygy @thane16


    Are you’re back!! I will tell Mum that. I really wanted to see it? Dad watched it & was not that impressed? Mum loves Bill Nighy. We all do.  Right now, I should be on another thread but I was watching out for the new Sorkin film called Moneyball. Have you seen that at all? I think it is on disc by now.

    T16  and happy new year to you!!

    ichabod @ichabod

    @thane16  Yup, just can’t stay away — civilized and intelligent conversation is much to be prized these days, and youse guys have it.

    Yeah, “Innocence” wasn’t wonderful, just pleasant, and that mostly because Nighy is such a pleasure to watch at work.  Speaking for myself, I can’t stand reading Christie — it’s all timetables, “fixed” clocks, and disguised heirs, and not a real character in sight, but that means that the actors in scripts made from those books can really go to town and create character right and left, because the author of the books left them what’s essentially a board game laid out on a blank slate, or maybe a crossword puzzle — nothing with any depth or color, so the cast can go to town supplying glimmers of both.

    “Moneyball” is a very good film, and I say that as someone who doesn’t give a flip about most team sports.  It offers a clear and cogent story of a clever and inventive sort of asymmetrical warfare in baseball — over-simplified I have no doubt, but brilliantly deployed all the same.  Enjoy!  We all need good stuff to help make our New Year happy (or at least — bearable?  I mean, seriously, what a world this is right now!).

    syzygy @thane16


    I made an error! I think I meant another movie with ‘money’ in it? Actually, no, it’s Molly’s Game?

    It looks really good! But I might catch MoneyBall too.

    I am interested in some films that capture elements of American culture: I remember when I first heard Paradise by The Dashboard Light. Has so many American elements. A nation very different to our own one -back then I would say?

    Thank you. T16

    Whisht @whisht

    Hi @thane16 – Puro!

    I was terribly cruel and wrong about “Brisbane’s only band”.
    Mr. Google has told me that Powderfinger were from Brisbane as well as a couple I’ll admit to not knowing.

    I’m afraid it will sadden you to know that although I’m still smiling at the almost-impossibility of guessing the song, I don’t think I ever will!
    I think it might be one of those ‘if you know it, you know it’ things*


    But Geoffers or Pedant may well still be guessing!

    Later I’ll try and find some 90’s stuff to dispel this terrible idea that it was a lost decade for music!


    * [though I may well face-palm when you eventually tell us!]

    syzygy @thane16


    I didn’t mind The Veronicas. Also Katie Noonan. Not a band -front singer from jazz to what people round about call ‘Indie’ moosic.

    Just googling there is a terrific name of a Bris/Logan band: Fat Mans Cleavage  😀  Lovely!


    geoffers @geoffers

    @thane16 & puro

    even with those clues, i’m afraid my brain has been wrung completely out of ideas. i’ve gone through every band i can think of, aussie or otherwise – inxs, midnight oil, men at work, ac-dc, tears for fears, the fixx, the cure, duran duran, a flock of seagulls!  (lol, and i’ve gotten sidetracked a few times, by old songs that i haven’t heard in a while, like some thomas dolby and adam ant) – and still no luck. 🙁

    and it’s easy to say “this is easy,” when you’ve already figured out your own answer! 😀

    i’m afraid it may be something i’ve never heard, or something that i just didn’t like?

    syzygy @thane16


    I know! Saying “something is SO easy” is a bit like me saying to Thane “listen, this the ‘doh’ pitch and THIS is the ‘sol -mi’ sound. It’s easy just SING it.”

    See, this is what happens when I try to be funny?  Smiley faces or emojis are confusing. Some people use them first to write “hey, this is HILARIOUS” whilst others add them in order to end a divisive or confusing conversation -divisive isn’t the word. Maybe to ensure harmony, to prevent antagonism? I know I try to use it the first way, but occasionally not. Sooo, I was hoping to show that the statement “it’s easy!” is quite ridiculous!

    It’s one of those ear worms isn’t it? It’s made me crazy. I see a few horror movies with Thane and a lot of them show some weird ‘moving thing’ under the skin. Gives me goosebumps. It’s possible I have an actual worm…..

    I’m scaring myself now!



    syzygy @thane16

    So the clues end up with THIS

    Whisht @whisht

    @thane16 – Puro

    He he – don’t worry – I think we all knew “its easy” was tongue in cheek!
    I loved the wild meanderings my Youtubing and listening took me (much I saved everyone from!) trying to get it.

    And it may shock you to learn, but you could have posted the song as a hint and I still wouldn’t have guessed it!


    I’ve not heard of the band or song, but happy they’ve left your ear!

    Though if you’d said they sing “ForEV–a” then I’m sure I’d have got it!

    @pedant – wow, you were obviously far hipper/cool than I ever was with the Tony Robinson.
    I think I was probably listening to Dire Straits [head-nodding-chin-stroking] and whatever my brother was listening to (ie whatever his mate Simon was listening to eg Stranglers, Doors).

    So, we’ve settled that ear worm and I must pointlessly stand up for a maligned decade (ie not really maligned by @geoffers – I’m just using that as an excuse).
    The 90’s – they weren’t all bad .


    We had Fey Post Pop, Indie, Grunge, Dance / Electronica and probably other stuff.
    And although I feel I’m going to bat for a decade that probably wasn’t my ‘favourite’* I’ll start my defence with a tune that was the best opening to a live gig I’ve ever seen**.

    Leeds Students and locals packed like sardines in the Duchess of York (a pub venue on the UK circuit for bands that could get one or two hundred at a gig).
    The band in a line on stage, guitar strumming the opening 5 bass notes ad nauseum without any drum backing, waiting for the crowd to be quiet.
    dah dah dah da dum; dah dah dah da dum; dah dah dah da dum…

    Crowd is restless and noisy and hot and unusually tightly crammed together (maybe 400 at this gig).
    The entire student crowd wincing as a local shouts “show us yer tits!”.
    The low-guitar-strum repeating now in a act of defiance for a further minute or two until the crowd actually get quiet.

    Then this tiny woman with huge guitar and band launch into a brilliant brilliant set.

    I knew nothing about the band before going in other than my mate liked them.
    On leaving I wanted to buy the album somehow at midnight (and marry Harvey or whatever).

    This would have been 1992 and a prelude to their bigger set linked below (thankfully without the Leeds knuckleheads).

    So not a bad star in the early 90’s!


    *actually I’m not sure what decade would be my ‘favourite’!
    ** I reserve the right in the future to remember another gig instead !

    Whisht @whisht

    hmm – that’s two overlong moosic reminisces from me no one asked for!

    memo-to-self – be less gassy.

    Mind you I managed to spell reminisces without autocorrect!


    syzygy @thane16


    That’s very interesting! It has a punk feel but it’s the chord structure & refrain which is REALLY interesting. That ‘twiney’ steel sound, lots of heavy bass, a deep voice, niiice chord changes which go somewhere different than you think.  @pedant @geoffers

    I have another ear worm -more so a need to resolve what it is that makes 80s and 90s music sound so very particular. I have to look into it more. Various papers discuss different periods of music; individual bands or even cities which produce such bands but I’ve not yet encountered a thesis on the definitive feel of the 1980s produced by groups like Devo or Crowded House which is interesting.  I think you may’ve encountered Cold Chisel through Ian Moss or Jimmy Barnes?  Ian Moss, in his debut album, Matchbook (which won an absolutely deserved award) wrote one of the best songs of the era in Tucker’s Daughter.

    Other Cold Chisel songs include ‘No Sense’ which has a funky & gripping bass cross-matching Barnes’ high vocal line. Good stuff.

    Whisht @whisht

    Hi @thane16 (Puro),
    I need to give that a listen and proper reply!

    Meanwhile here’s me diving in quickly to post something for Burn’s Night but also as a reference to Hugh McIlvanney who passed away.

    He was a Scottish sports journalist but that description is paltry – he was a writer.
    Here’s what he wrote about Muhammad Ali after beating George Foreman in the incredible ‘Rumble in the Jungle’.

    Anyway, better plaudits will come from others.
    For Burns Night I thought of this which is lively and fun but I looked for the song Ali on the same album, but cannot find it online at all.

    So here is something less up-tempo and a bit more elegiac from Rufus.
    This may be a bit tin-eared on my part, but meant in love.

    Whisht @whisht

    @thane16 – Puro
    I have a lot of fondness for PJ Harvey (and others like Bjork and St Vincent) in that I don’t like all their stuff (perhaps even most of it) as they try really hard to explore stuf (sometimes maybe trying too hard!). But I’d rather that than listen to an artist being ‘safe’.

    I know that PJ Harvey was very influenced by Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band, so that might give you some inroads to explain just what the hell she was doing with chords etc!

    Now, 80’s and 90’s music like Ian Morris /Cold Chisel etc sounding so particular…
    I wonder if its not just the song craft but also the production.
    There are lots of bits of instruments across multiple tracks (guitars, bass, synth, singing etc) that are all filling out the song quite evenly and smooothly – there are no gaps in the sound nor anything at the extreme ends.

    Maybe that was felt to be more ‘radio friendly’ (ie small speakers on a household radio)?

    (though I wouldn’t say that of Devo who you mentioned – the few tracks of theirs I’ve heard I think are really different).

    The Ian Moss track No Sense reminds me of the Police in its Funk Reggae rhythm (though Police never did those bluesy guitar things – they were quite avant garde in terms of guitar I was surprised to later learn when I went back and listened).

    Whisht @whisht

    btw – its been kinda fun going through the weird routes YT and my own library take me when looking at 80’s and 90’s music.

    But by goodness I was listening to some miserable stuff!!
    Dunno what it is about guys when they’re in their teens-and-twenties (tweenties?) but I managed to get walloped by Indie, Shoe-gazing then Grunge.

    I mean I loved it and had a helluva lot of fun, but the music isn’t what you’d call “fun”.


    So, here’s something I’ve linked to before, but it popped up today on my walkman.
    It isn’t from the 80’s/90’s (at least for me – actually I’ve no idea when it was recorded) but this song always makes me smile.



    *cough* Tom Robinson *cough*

    Not really hi. At that time – 77-78 – all sorts of things had been unleashed by punk/ new wave, but very few of us completely abandoned the music that had shaped us before. Also my cohort was also quite politicised (especially by today’s standards).

    So nobody has bitten on Plaistow Patricia, then?

    @thane16 – definitely nothing to do with chocolate…

    Whisht @whisht

    @pedant – ha ha! I didn’t bite on Plaistow Patricia as its erm, well, well it isn’t sweet like chocolate.

    And after hearing it once I would barely play it at home let alone in a shop or school!


    But I wasn’t politicised at all at that time (I was still quite young!) and even when I was of an age you’d have expected me to be more ‘woke’ I almost certainly wasn’t.
    Even though I watched TV like Are you Being Served, It Ain’t Half Hot Mum and the execrable Mind Your Language, all I felt was a weird “erm laughing at someone for that – that’s not right is it?” but without the guts to actually ask anyone.

    Thank god for The Young Ones and the rest of the alternative scene (though my absolutely thing-that-nailed-it-at-exactly-the-right-time was A Bit Of Fry And Laurie*).

    Anyway, none of that is music unless…

    aw in honour of A Bit Of Fry And Laurie, here’s some Longhair…

    A bit quick, but a joyous video !


    *if no one knows what this is, just shout!



    Ah, thinking of comedy then it inevitable leads to Not The None O’Clock News:

    syzygy @thane16

    @whisht  @pedant

    It’s funny that real people in the ACTUAL UK watched Mind Your Language or Are you being Served?  🙂

    My dear Mum loved those shows. Gawd.

    I was waiting till she mentioned this adoration to my year 5 teacher who was born in London and arrived in her mid-30s, husband and two children in tow. Boy, on PT evening Mrs Boski give me and mum a ‘look.’ One of those that teachers have in their repertoire (the thousand yard stare) and which I learnt to use with no fucks given.

    Mum did love Pamela Stephenson (not Rowan Atkinson). Two days ago, with McEnroe commentating on the Australian Open, Thane checked YT and McEnroe’s antics. One game was more ballistic than usual. He did the “you’re incompetent” routine but it was actually scary when the ballistic was upped to DEFCON 1 as McEnroe stomped around, screaming at the ump: “ANSWER. THE.  GODDAMN. QUESTION!!”  He was a bit of a wanker.

    NTNON was terrific. Aaaand speaking of Stephenson and NTNON….

    @whisht, you did post that lovely choon before, and please do any of those again. My father was an exceptional piano accordionist. If I hear a concertina or any bellows-driven instrument, vivid memories emerge ….my parents inviting people from the Czech club for dessert, where they’d down cheap tequila shots sucking on salt and lemon by the truckload and then singing hideously out of tune.puro

    I had my own accordion  -a  fart weapon – used when it was 2 am -it  would clear a room (or party) in 5 minutes. Eventually I could actually fart musically (to be fair I was seven).

    Prof Longhair I knew from blues and strings … I googled this and realised he died in 1980, January 30.

    This post has extended itself like Hermione Granger’s extendable bag -but most of that was hidden!



    Whisht @whisht

    @pedant – I’ll admit to not remembering that song when it was originally aired.
    Not sure if I’d have appreciated it at the time but now I’ve heard it, I can say I’m a big fan of Kinda Lingers!

    I’ve now been down a rabbit warren of YouTube (a video warren??) and have nothing to reply with but here’s a Bit of Fry and Laurie.

    a really early bit

    and a later one (but still, this could have been a sketch from last year)


    @whisht @thane16

    Very good – A Bit of Fry and Laurie varied from outstanding to a a bit try-hard, but a scary number of their skits have all aged too well.

    OK, time to go all in with the 80s politics. Spitting Image.

    It is crucial to grasp, for this, that a) the thug PW Botha was still very much in charge and the idea of Nelson Mandela being released seemed absurd and b) Country Life butter had an advertising campaign with the tag line “You’ll never put a better bit of butter on your knife”.

    Whisht @whisht

    oooh @pedant – yep, that Spitting Image song brings back memories.

    Still wincing after hearing it again.
    You’re right about A Bit of Fry and Laurie sometimes trying too hard. As I cycled through a bunch of their sketches on YT I was struck with how it felt like a couple of Pythons doing Two Ronnies sketches.

    Still, they hit me and a couple of mates just at the right moment (we’d’ve been around 17) and going into school quoting from the previous evening’s episode reduced us to fits of giggling.

    Cath Annabel @cathannabel

    @thane16 @geoffers @whisht Just been enjoying some Snarky Puppy on BBC Radio 3’s Saturday jazz prog, J to Z, which we listen to religiously.  I was thinking, now where have I heard that name before, and suddenly realised it was in this lovely place!

    WalrusWho @walruswho

    I made the Doctor who theme with my Bass and a loop pedal complete with tardis noises.


    syzygy @thane16


    Well, I’m speechless! That was some job. It’s such a terrific theme, isn’t it?

    So, you could also be “who-doo Gurus” 🙂   (after the Australian band, the Hoodoo Gurus).


    WalrusWho @walruswho

    aha i get it Who do Guru, Guru do Who 🙂 Thanks for listening 🙂  its my favorite theme ever. 🙂

    syzygy @thane16


    I’m not surprised -the theme is history’s greatest, in my not-so-humble opinion 😉

    There are many themes I really like & many of them aren’t huge melodic cycles but something a little different. Who fits that bill.

    On a totally non-sci-fi subject, so does Sorkin’s major film The Social Network with composers Atticus Ross & Trent Reznor. Directed by another favourite David Fincher.

    Puro and T16 (who aint 16 anymore) .Welcome to the site.

    syzygy @thane16


    The Snarky Puppy has been driving me nuts. Not in the normal musical way. But that  Mad Dog reference (somewhere) when connected with Puppy made me think of: aircraft (a passion of mine and Thane’s of late after  his helicopter training session. Best not repeated due to needing millions to actually get the ticket!).

    So, not Snarky Puppy but Angry Puppy referencing Mad Dog. Love me a call-sign.

    Guess we all do? It’s the nature of the internet now that, back then, wasn’t anticipated beyond a small group of elite fly-men.

    Puro (hope you & yours are keeping well, Cath. Thoughts spinning your way…..)

    Cath Annabel @cathannabel

    @thane16  Thanks for the thoughts!  It seems appropriate to talk about my mum-in-law (who died just before New Year) on this particular forum (she’s had a mention or two elsewhere, mainly in relation to the challenge of watching the Christmas special with her after the dementia set in and her attention span was somewhat erratic), as she was a musician, taught piano to generations of children and adults in the village where she lived for most of her life.  And the church was full of former pupils and fellow musicians on the day of her funeral.  We gave a lot of thought, obviously, to the music.  The entrance music was one of her favourite pieces of Chopin, the Fantasie Impromptu, played by John Ogdon who had the same piano teacher (Nellie Housley) as her.  And we went out to a setting of Byron’s poem ‘She walks in Beauty’ sung by the Newstead Abbey Singers, which she was a member of for many years (Newstead Abbey is in the village, and was Byron’s family home).  We also played another recording of the Chopin, performed by Kathryn Stott, who shared a different piano teacher (Kendall Taylor) at a later stage in Mum’s career, and a Debussy Reverie also played by KS, which we know she loved.  It’s been good to remember who she was, as we’d been so immersed in caring for her through this last few years, as her mobility had diminished and the dementia was eating away at her memory, her personality, everything that made her her.  We’d kind of forgotten the person that her friends, pupils and others were reminiscing about at the funeral – forthright, funny, stubborn (actually that was intact right to the end), independent, talented and interested in so many things (including Who).

    winston @winston

    @cathannabel  I am sorry for your loss. The service you describe sounds beautiful and I am glad it brought you good memories of a woman who sounds very interesting and accomplished.

    syzygy @thane16


    Equally sorry – and the Ogdon would’ve been marvellous.

    Love to you all.

    Puro and Thane



    So sorry for your loss – even though in some ways the release from Alzheimer’s could be seen as a mercy, it is still brutal when it comes,

    Buffy: Was it sudden?

    Tara: No…..Yes – it’s always sudden.


    Cath Annabel @cathannabel

    @winston @thane16 @pedant Many thanks.  And @pedant – that Buffy quote has come to mind so often lately, it just sums up the experience of losing someone, at whatever stage of life and in whatever circumstances.  It’s always sudden.

    syzygy @thane16

    @cathannabel.  I’m  so sorry. It’s, as He says, sudden. And what a terrific talent she had!  This reminds me of news in Aus -a RC into Aged Care. The stories -the truths are horrible. But that’s for another day…a different discussion. She obviously inspired  many people and it’s wonderful to know that. What people are capable of, or were, once.

    So, the Who Bunnies are up….Wigglin butts outta bed… (I actually googled “butts” because I’ve never known if it’s had two ‘tts’.) whilst we get ready for bed. A storm is a-brewing…. An actual one.

    Then I thought of the softly softly of Gilmore…. considering the other ‘B….’ thing over your way that everyone is talking about and thinking about, we need something glorious.


    syzygy @thane16

    I think Meddling Monk was mentioned?  🙂

    So, I have to go with the Capt Obvious & apologies if it’s been done before!


    Whisht @whisht

    @thane16 – it might surprise you to learn that I haven’t heard Meddle (I know, I know) but that reminded me for some reason to Us and Them (which I have heard before – yay team me!)

    Thankfully (due to me looking for something about him) this popped up in my right hand panel of YouTube.
    Sometimes YT proffers stuff that isn’t bad.

    Jeremy Hardy (maybe not his best – he was excellent, but slightly better than stuff I was looking for when he sadly passed away a few weeks back).

    Whisht @whisht

    so, for a completely difficult/ tedious to explain reason, I looked up this video.
    Looks like the Beeb might be taking down videos from YT (not sure it will embed) but, anyway….

    I will link to music soon…

    Whisht @whisht

    ah ok, not surprising but that was a link to A Bit of Fry and Laurie.

    Anyway, here’s some music.

    happy to take requests for convoluted connections between a scene with lettuce and some pop music, but in the meantime… i guess it will be mainly random


    Not many Monkees songs with Peter Tork (RIP) on vocals:

    syzygy @thane16

    @pedant  @whisht

    Oh I know. His death popped up on my feed.  Such lovely memories of the whole band. Even dad liked them which says something (maybe)

    Thank you for the Jeremy Hardy. And Rebecca Front! And bees….And buttons.

    Phobias. That was actually very interesting.



    winston @winston

    @thane16   @pedant and @whisht   I heard about Peter Tork earlier and although I am very sad at his leaving I also remembered all the fun he brought me as a young girl watching the show ,singing the songs and trying to decide who was the cutest. .As a much older person I have learned to appreciate their music and even took a Monkees CD  on our last road trip.

    Thanks  whisht for the Louis Prima song, I could listen to him all day. In fact who can be gloomy when Louis Prima and his band are playing.

    Whisht @whisht

    Hi @pedant @winston @thane16

    I only heard about Peter York’s death a few minutes before checking in here and I’ll admit a certain “awwwww no”.
    I grew up seeing them on the TV, sandwiched between The Banana Splits and I thought of them as a joke band, though couldn’t figure out how some of their songs were so damn good.

    Sometimes it can take me years to unlearn what is perfectly obvious to everyone else who didn’t decide to wear dumb(ing) blinkers.

    Pedant’s already linked a great tune and I haven’t heard much better on the media today (ok Daydream Believer is a fantastic tune and he played keyboards on it, but when heard in context of someone passing, you think “Davey Jones?”).

    The only other vocal I heard today by Peter was this which is apposite

    Whisht @whisht

    so, to carry on the theme of “this guy hasn’t a clue about music”, here’s the ‘latest’ choon I’m digging (man) fom the Ultimate yah yah of Geetar songs (or whatever the multiple CD compilation was).

    For me this band growing up was “urgh, don’t like” due to whatever was in the charts at the time rather than think “maybe they did other stuff…”.

    So this pops up on the collection and I’m thinking “this is bonkers. This is great! This is all over the place! Is it ‘heavy’ (that downward chord progression) of jazzy fusion or light/Eagles rock or “ooh err” comedic-horns or slightly clumsy rock-geetar or…
    well i guess its all these things (though one things it isn’t is headphones music – its sooo much better just through speakers!).

    However, I know everyone here will go “oh that lot, yeah but I heard that loads” its just a new thing for me!


    oh and here’s a live version I found that just makes me think “was that how my older brother and cousins had their hair…?”)

    syzygy @thane16

    @winston @pedant and @whisht

    Yes, that’s the one, isn’t it? The song people say “hang on, THAT’s Chicago??” Great stories about who wrote it, why they were struggling to complete the album & the name of the song as well.

    You can see Cetera still performing today but in a suit & tie 🙂

    But Kath was the prima donna guitarist with RSMag commenting that he was criminally underrated compared with anyone putting finger to frets. I was saying before (I accidentally deleted it) that their stuff wasn’t as obscure as, say, Steely Dan’s or even The Byrds.  Some of Cream’s output could be ….complicated whereas Chicago’s is still toe-tapping with some awesome solos. Aerosmith and Jon Bon Jovi cite Chicago as heavy influences and if you look deeper into Joy Division’s influences Terry Kath’s mentioned -I think everyone would’ve mentioned Kath! It’s no surprise that Hendrix said “he’s as good as me. OK, seriously? Probably better, in fact, the best.” Hendrix was always full of himself so it was nice to see him knuckle down & listen to others.

    Years ago when I was here first I remember asking you @whisht if you could find the clip where Hendrix decides to fire up his guitar at Woodstock? But I remember the urban myth that he did something ….far more shocking (fortunately it remains a myth; not true; not eva, eva real).

    Puro x



    It wasn’t Woodstock, it was Monterrey. You can see at the beginning of the clip where a myth might come from. The bemused crowd is a joy.

    syzygy @thane16


    my inner dummy spoketh

    Ooh, I’m averting my eyes now. They’re averted…..Whoa!


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