• CountScarlioni replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    On a second viewing, I was struck by the continuities between the end of The Woman Who Lived and The Zygon Invasion. In the final exchange between Ashildr/Lady Me and the Doctor we get The Doctor: Who told you about me? “The man who comes for the battle, and runs away from the fallout”?’ Then near the start of <em>The Zygon Invasion</em>, Kate…[Read more]

  • geoffers replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    And then (and this is the point that has me perplexed) she says “Kill the traitors”. But in what sense are the UNIT soldiers and human Jac traitors? Traitors to who? If she said “kill the enemy” it would have sounded more logical.

    i thought that was odd, as well. one interpretation could be that zygon clara considers all of…[Read more]

  • @blenkinsopthebrave

    Knowing where to find != Having a positive ID.

    Jus’ sayin’

  • @blenkinsopthebrave

    can his shades reveal distinguish a zygon from a human…?

    I think that is how he knew the school kids were a bit over-age.

  • Craig replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)

    @blenkinsopthebrave I’m still hoping for a version of this. Which the shades are/must be born for.

  • lisa replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)

    @blenkinsopthebrave Totally remember this from when I was still a kid.
    The series didn’t last too long but it came at a time when invasion sci-fi
    like Quartermass, Nomads, Body Snatchers were all coming out. Great stuff!
    Thanks for this!

  • lisa replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    @blenkinsopthebrave Apologies!! lol – That was meant for @Phaseshift about
    the series 9 on Amazon. 🙂 Didn’t mean to cause you any mental grief with that!

    You think that Jac and the UNIT troop were Zygons which had become totally
    absorbed by the Human personalities? Therefore Bonnie/Clara saw them as traitors
    to her concept of Zygon…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    @blenkinsopthebrave Bummer if its only 1-6 ! I haven’t pulled up the Amazon yet.

    @Arbutus You are right about Osgood’s question mark shirt because as you say
    which one? She’s a really great mystery now! I like that about her!

    Why do I recall something someone said someplace about this series being about
    Clara and the Doctor gallivanting…[Read more]

  • jphamlore replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    @blenkinsopthebrave: As I have been speculating, the only way to preserve the political message is to have what appear to be incompetent elites actually be competent.  The adult Zygon leaders claimed they had a plan to control the situation.  I am assuming they do.

    It might all a fake.  Fake UNIT UK headquarters.  Fake UNIT Jac and sol…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    @blenkinsopthebrave      I am also settling in for a rewatch this morning (I will try to do the ironing simultaneously, which sort of works!). That scene is one of the bits that I want to recheck as well, because I agree with you that I’m not convinced that Jac and the others are dead. Ditto for Kate.

    I’m not quite sure about the whole busi…[Read more]

  • PhaseShift replied to the topic The Fox Inn

    @arbutus (I really want to try that Pumpkin Stout) @purofilion @whisht @juniperfish @blenkinsopthebrave

    Thanks all for indulging an old idealist. I made the huge mistake earlier of reading a few online reviews. ATL all is pretty complementary. BTL – oh, dear. The Daily Telegraph had comments that made me ask for the mind Bleach.

    Anyway, on a…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    @Mersey —

    I’d imagine that most people on this site are familiar with the MH17 incident and this weekend’s events in Egypt. However, I personally don’t see it as particularly offensive or in poor taste. This episode was in the can months ago and Steven Moffatt can’t be expected to predict what world events are going to be at the time of…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic The Zygon Invasion

    @starla  the one who travels to New Mexico, is zygon Kate. We don’t see what happens to her once the police officer changes into a zygon

    Well, not exactly — but our last shot of Kate — isn’t she holding up and looking at what sure looks like a zygon finger or something?  I thought, if she’s a zygon copy but a *good* one, she’s taken out a *ba…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @blenkinsopthebrave  It is very nice that people seem to have responded to my idea, but…it doesn’t have to turn out that way. 

    No — but your way is very elegant in its simplicity and potential impact.  On the other hand, of course the story might go in a completely different direction, delight us all with something unforeseen.  Only people…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    @DrBen @Cybercat @Ichabod

    @everyone So since we know that River’s library is a universe where there is a
    kind of immortality or a place like the nethersphere, (although that is shut down unless
    UNIT or Missy help with that) then how likely is it Clara ends up in 1 of these
    places even with…[Read more]

  • Cybercat replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    @drben

    Awesome way to finish!

    Its always been about the doctor. Not the companions – as much as they play a fundamental role..  it’s about the doctor and that should never be forgotten.

    With the ‘poetry’ as you put it – of the Doctor having to accept his role in the fate of his companions. Leaves room for growth for the D…[Read more]

  • DrBen replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @blenkinsopthebrave – Well, I envisage a scenario where Ashildr will be there to stop the Doctor from saving Clara. In other words, to allow Clara to fulfill her destiny.

    Oh Master Blenkinsop, what a beautiful thought.  For the Doctor to be in a position (yet again) to save Clara’s life, and for Ashildr, with her (by then) 1100 or so years of l…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic The Woman Who Lived

    @blenkinsopthebrave  Oh!  Thanks, I’d lost that bit.  It’s been so long since we’ve seen River (or seems so long) that I tend to lose sight of her altogether, although she is due back this season, of course.

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