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6 years, 7 months ago - View
Nightingale replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Damn, I wrote such a long post and it seems to have been incarcerated by the Judoon!
Short version is: I agree that it’s far too premature to declare the mythos ruined. There are many places this storyline could go, some great, some pointless, some bad. But we do have Dr Ruth, glam-rock Division time lords, and regenerating…[Read more]
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6 years, 7 months ago - View
Mark-Reach replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Awesome points about prehartnell. *Applause*
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6 years, 7 months ago - View
JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Yes, I think it’ll be well into s13 before we see any of this stuff returned to. I fully expect we’ll be seeing RuthDoc back in some form or another.
Yeah, there is already what amounts to a DWEU, I suppose. But I wonder if we are about to get something that keeps that extant but has another branch that can be explored…[Read more]
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6 years, 7 months ago - View
Nightingale replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Hi!
No, River’s origin story works fine. Just ask yourself where the Timeless Child got her ability to regenerate from?
Wrong person? I think you just said what I said.
The big wormhole-looking thing where Tectuen found the timeless child looked kinda like the time vortex to me, so Mr. Moffat’s explanation for River might be retro…
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6 years, 7 months ago - View
JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children
I hope so too – but I think, when articulating criticisms, there is a responsibility to assess whether there’s a genuine fault in the work, or whether the critic just doesn’t like this writer’s style
Well, I would hope so too but I haven’t seen anyone not do that on this site. Not for years now. Writing, like all art, is subject…[Read more]
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6 years, 7 months ago - View
JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Well, first of all, I think it’s important to say that it’s totally cool if Pip enjoyed the story, just as it’s totally cool if others did not. Personally, I don’t think Phase said anything remotely on the level of bowelstreak, nerdrotic, Noel Tardis and all those idiots. There’s little in his argument that wouldn’t have been considered…[Read more]
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6 years, 7 months ago - View
Whisht replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Interesting discussion – thanks @Phaseshift for the insight into ‘franchise’.
And thanks @bluesqueakpip for giving me reasons to be a bit kinder to this story (arc?).For me, I like that Whittaker’s Doctor has developed over two series. I think it was conscious – almost a reverse of what they’d planned for Colin Baker.
For WhitDoc she’s Fizzy at…[Read more] -
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PhaseShift replied to the topic The Timeless Children
I knew it was my first post that drew your ire @bluesqueakpip. The response spoke volumes.
But ‘I repeat’ this is as cynical a fanwank as you are likely to experience.
I’ve explained my reasons. Your response is pretty poor. I think that the obfuscation and misattriubution paints a picture. And then colours it in.
Go at it.I have no grist to…[Read more]
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6 years, 7 months ago - View
PhaseShift replied to the topic The Timeless Children
But I suppose my main point is that I’m developing a deep suspicion that had the Holmes/Hinchcliffe/Nation plot points been broadcast under the name ‘Chris Chibnall’, you would even now be telling me how awful they are.
Well that’s a rather lame attempt to paint me as a ‘bowelstreak’ type naysayer, isn’t it? Especially when coupl…[Read more]
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Well, lots to unpack here. It’s almost like old times…
Really? Sherlock is currently over a hundred and thirty years old and Doctor Who has a much more flexible structure than good old Sherlock
Allow me to clarify slightly. I’m not saying that the cultural text of Doctor Who won’t be around in 2063. It most definitely will. I…[Read more]
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
nerys replied to the topic The Timeless Children
@bluesqueakpip So what’s the point of the retcon? I’ll have to think about it some more, but I suspect that Chibbers, having tackled the God Complex, is now possibly trying to develop the Doctor’s characterisation away from the ‘rebel Time Lord’ schtick that we’ve been stuck with since The War Games. Trying to explain why the Time Lords seem…
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
PhaseShift replied to the topic The Timeless Children
I respect your opinion @bluesqueakpip , but also note that your response is an inelegant method of not answering my main point. What’s the reason for the Timeless Child retcon?
Holmes wanted to eventually write a high stakes story about the ‘death’ of the Doctor and seeded these ideas that would feed into it and establish those high stakes.…[Read more]
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
nerys replied to the topic The Timeless Children
@bluesqueakpip All very plausible. When I rewatch, I will keep your suggestions in mind! And maybe my questions will be answered.
Also, good point about Capaldi’s Doctor having some “undoctorly” moments … that one, in particular.
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children
Yeah, I think this will be retconned at some point. You can almost hear the tapping keyboards in the bedrooms of future showrunners even as we speak.
re. the running away from Ko Sharma — yep, it was pretty un-Doctorly, but 13 has by now made a habit of fairly regular un-Doctorly behaviour, so I’m pretty much letting it go now. What’s…[Read more]
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
Miapatrick replied to the topic The Timeless Children
@davros I’m thinking either the Tardis got stuck like a police box around this time and the memory wiped Hartnel doctor accidentally stole his own Tardis (because she wanted him to, and because of Claracle).
Alternatively, the Tardis chose to get stuck in that shape because of the meeting between the two Doctors which the Tardis knew (time works…[Read more]
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
JimTheFish replied to the topic BBC Approved Spoilers
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
JimTheFish replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen
That’s really fascinating. (Though annoyingly you’ve now furnished me with a long list of books that I really want to read …) I’m also interested in the gap between 1880-odd and 1982. Was there really nothing SF-ey published in Ireland for a 100 years? Admittedly, it’s a 100 years in Ireland that are pretty packed with incident,…[Read more]
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6 years, 8 months ago - View
blenkinsopthebrave replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen
I thought you might enjoy this Irish perspective on the episode:
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