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Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Time Heist
Ooh, me like! đ
So looking at your ‘faith’ idea:
Deep Breath – the ‘faith’ is resulting in evil – the droids are killing people so they can get to the Promised Land. It is, however, possible at the end of the story that the Half Faced Man has ‘repented’ and killed himself rather than continue killing others. There’s also a subplot of…[Read more]
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ScaryB replied to the topic Time Heist
So many great posts.
@Phaseshift and @Chickenelly Love your galleries, great stuff
@Mudlark Completely in awe of your Mozart spot. Someone on the production team would be so chuffed to know that was picked up on.
@Handles I see what you’re getting at with multiple timelines but it ties my little brain in gordian knots! Never thought I’d see the…[Read more]
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12 years, 1 month ago - View
PhileasF replied to the topic Time Heist
@idiotsavon – (Karabraxos: âI am old, with many many regretsâ. Doctor: âIâve made many mistakes. Itâs about time I did something about thatâ.) Yes, I think there’s a definite parallel.
@janetteB – I think here the Doctor really shows just how much he does care. I think you’re right. I’ve completely reversed my ‘sociopath’ opinion since last…[Read more]
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thommck replied to the topic Time Heist
Now for my replies…
@idiotsavon congrats on the “Don’t Think” prediction. It seems like we are being asked to go against our human nature a lot this series.
@bluesqueakpip Was the teleport really the same effect as Gretchen’s? I didn’t recognise it as such. Are you saying that from memory or did you go back and double check!?
@ScaryB – Doctor…[Read more]
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Arbutus replied to the topic Time Heist
Hey, I love a good heist flick, so this was lots of fun. I thought the music was great, with the stylish soundtrack behind the early scenes giving way to a more dramatic style as the story became more intense. Kudos to @idiotsavon who called the pattern of suppressing senses: Donât think!
I loved the moment when the Doctor stared in disbelief a…[Read more]
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Apopheniac replied to the topic Time Heist
Aggghhh, was working late tonight so just watched the ep and the Extra. I will definitely watch again tomorrow.
This was fantastic. I liked it so much better than Listen.
Hello @bluesqueakpip
So, now we know how Gretchen ended up in âHeavenâ. That teleport, with scream, is exactly the same effect. She didnât die; she was telepor…
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IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Time Heist
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12 years, 1 month ago - View
oh @idiotsavon – and @katharine and basically @everyoneelse, personally I’m really grateful for your input (and others’) as its fascinating (and educating!).
I don’t care if its an underlying theme from Moffat or not (ie Faust). I am really enjoying learning about Faust!
I actually think I made a mistake last night with my crossword analogy to…[Read more]
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12 years, 1 month ago - View
Wow! Loads to catch up on.
Great discussion around the Faust themes. Fascinating that both Marlowe and Goethe had a change of heart about who to give redemption to (thanks @idiotsavon ).
I also liked the comment (sorry, can’t find the post to credit) about how 11 was the first Doctor to actually experience old age. Capaldi’s Doctor is now approx…[Read more]
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@Bluesqueakpip Man, Moffat knowing Goethe is as surreal to me as Tom Hanks knowing EisenhĂźttenstadt (a city in the far east, so far east that we jokingly say it’s west Poland.), a place I did a bike tour to once.
@idiotsavon Hey, that’s what this place is for! Getting new ideas while contemplating…[Read more]
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12 years, 1 month ago - View
Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Listen
Do we think that Moffat knows and/or cares about Goethe and the whole Urfaust/Faust thing?
He’s an English graduate of Glasgow University; it’s quite possible that he’s either read Goethe’s Faust (or studied the plotline) to compare it with Marlowe’s Doctor Faustus. And you certainly study earlier versions.
Or, he may have seen the…[Read more]
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@idiotsavon one thing I suspect that Moffat never does is throw an arrow at a list of baby names. The ambiguity of Gretchen’s final destination would seem to echo the mystery surrounding where Gretchen Carlisle ends up.
Just sitting down to respond, but my dog has other ideas. Very quickly though: Unlike Goetheâs world, the Whoniverse cannot and w…
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12 years, 1 month ago - View
Just checking in if some new revelations have occured (I usually stop posting after a few days of an episode because there is no new input and I like to speculate with something to back up ideas)Â in my absence and I find Faust to be back in the game?! Very surprised and pleased all the same.
Some nice motives @idiotsavon … The real question…[Read more]
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Spider replied to the topic On The Sofa (5)
@Whisht  Nope. My forum name is not related to anything 200o AD. It comes from a long time ago in a galaxy far far away..plus..stuff.  Although  the ‘Errol’ reference is a bit spooky!.
Scottish sig quote is to do with 1st ep of new series + i am scottish. Also, for the record (not that it matters). i am a she đ
On another note, slightly intr…[Read more]
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btw @idiotsavon – I’m really liking the Faust theories!
Mainly as they add a sheen of class to the bonkerising (not that they needed it!).
Although not connected, some comments from people (I won’t “@” them as I may be wrong about their views – obviously if they are contributors then they’ll say “yeah!” or “no!”) seem to suggest we’re…[Read more]
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@idiotsavon     Those Mr. Men reviews are perfect. Some people are just really, really funny!
@Spider  Maybe it’s the iron that’s the fixed point! I might just be using that excuse next time the shirts are piling up. Because, frankly, people in general confer too much meaning on pressed shirts that really, just isn’t there.
So far, I must s…[Read more]
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@idiotsavon Ah, then the response to tell your boss that the ‘trousers of iron’ (oh hello, episode title?) are a fixed point in time and will be instrumental in the destruction of the entire human race unless YOU can save it. I then recommend waving your hands about in an enigmatic way while brandishing some sort of screwdriver with a coloured LED…[Read more]
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@idiotsavon  Of course we are over analysing and conferring meaning that isn’t there (or is there, who knows!). That’s not wasting life, that’s fun! đ
“State your name, rank and intention: The Doctor, doctor, fun”
Personally I’m waiting for Mr Men titles: Mr Timelord Victorious, or Mr Angry Eyebrows…or Little Miss impossible girl…oh dear, i…[Read more]
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In my view, the contrast between Faust and UrFaust suggests that, while the self-sacrificial characters appear to have been saved, they have in reality been damned. Missy is clearly Faust (or maybe Goethe; not really clear on that pointâ thoughts?).
But no; if the Doctor is a Faust character, perhaps Missy is in fact the devil, and her Nether R…
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@idiotsavon    Can I just say, this is in its entirety the best post I have read in ages?
In my view, the contrast between Faust and UrFaust suggests that, while the self-sacrificial characters appear to have been saved, they have in reality been damned. Missy is clearly Faust (or maybe Goethe; not really clear on that pointâ thoug…[Read more]
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