• JimTheFish replied to the topic Orphan 55

    @juniperfish

    I suspect you’re right that this is a kneejerk reaction to the criticism of s11. And to be fair, Moffat went through the same process too. s6 was criticised for being too complex (ha!) and lo and behold we get the ‘movie of the week’ format for a while. I suspect that’s just part of the ongoing process.

    Personally, I’m glad to see…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Orphan 55

    @juniperfish

    Of course, now she is faced with a mirror of her Time War past – as her long-standing fremeny, The Master,  appears to be responsible for Gallifrey’s destruction, again.

    I’m not massively keen on Gallifrey’s re-destruction personally. It all depends how it plays out, of course, and as you say, we may see some sort of reset by the end…[Read more]

  • @juniperfish

    … she also recognised that people reacted to her superficially because of her looks, so her sense of self-worth was actually quite disturbed,

    Yes to that. I have the impression that our reading of Lucy is not in fact very different; it’s just our understanding of the meaning of ‘depressed’. To me that word denotes clinical d…[Read more]

  • @juniperfish

    Hello!

    Good to know that I’m not the only person that enjoyed that show.

    Wasn’t Frodo great in that? 🙂

    Not to mention the entire rest of the cast.

    I had no idea that was the problem. Same thing pretty much happened with Starz! version of  Gaiman’s “American Gods”.

    Which was a shame too. 🙁

    Oh well, wouldn’t be the first time…[Read more]

  • @phaseshift

    That’s a fair point re. Dinosaurs and I think you could be right. That was certainly a theme in s7 up to and including the 50th anniversary

    @juniperfish and @missrori

    Yes, let’s take the question of the Doc’s morality over to the Orphan thread. I’ve certainly got some thoughts on @missrori‘s interesting post above

    @everyone

    I’d be…[Read more]

  • MissRori replied to the topic Orphan 55

    @miapatrick I had a similar feeling as you about exactly how much the poor kids can take away from this episode — especially depending upon who their parents are.  For those who don’t know, I’m in my early 40s but also an autistic.  I live at home with my family, and rely upon them to get around (working a job to pay rent, etc. in exchange).  I…[Read more]

  • @Jimthefish

    Great to “see” you again.! 😉

    As soon as I watched spyfall PT 2 that minor exchange from Hell Bent came straight back to me. Made me realise how I missed a lot of insight by contributors on here.

    Pretty much agree with everything you say here, but to be charitable to Chibnall, I think the fate of Solomon was requested by Moffat. It…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Orphan 55

    @Juniperfish

    It wasn’t just Planet of the Apes which came to mind; there was more than a hint of Alien in the editing of the first appearance of the Dregs as they invaded the dome, before they were revealed as humanoid in body.

    … only this time it’s environmental apocalypse rather than nuclear apocalypse

    It was shown to be both, I think.  Envi…[Read more]

  • @juniperfish and @phaseshift

    Well, well, this is quite like old times, isn’t it? Hello to you both (and everyone else). Hope you’ve been well and had a good festive season.

    Big yes to Dracula. The first couple of episodes are among the best that Moffatt and Gattiss have done. The third ep was a bit weaker but I appreciate why they made the move…[Read more]

  • @juniperfish

    While I think they did leave the ending ambiguous, I have a feeling this may be a one – shot like Jekyll (The BBC commissioned it while RTD was in charge because they wanted to see if he could deliver a project like that and take charge of Doctor Who).

    I’ve seen all of Penny Dreadful and I think once it settled down it became a…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @thane16 Two years ago: new Doctor. Only now, we have one person ‘admitting’ “oh, actually, it’s flat. No bonkerising & it disappointed” & that’s followed by a whole lot of others suddenly writing something very similar. But these same people never stated this at the time! Too respectful of a forum? Felt like you didn’t want to be the one who a…

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  • @Juniperfish

    Like your style. I will attribute you and other contributers with these and any further observations in my retirement project – A Book entitled “Steven Moffat and his BBC projects – What the hell was going on there?!”. The truth is in here. 😉

    I was quite surprised by the relatively minor part played by Mina, but I think the Lucy…[Read more]

  • @fatmaninabox @miapatrick @juniperfish @mudlark

    Yeah, Dracula was a rare treat. You’ve already covered many points I had in my notes, but thanks for the reference to the barmaid in the Rose & Crown. Completely missed that on first watch!

    I just thought it was constructed brilliantly. I just wanted to point out that the most controversial point…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @mudlark I agree with you. That was a too-quick bonkerization on my part. I should’ve given it more thought before posting. I watched Part 2 again last night and realized this likely has a much broader meaning, and has something to do specifically with the Doctor, the Master and Gallifreyans. What, we don’t know yet. But if the lie was enough to…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @juniperfish  @nerys

    You know, all this talk about The Timeless Child, and children, makes we wonder whether the Master and the Doctor had a child together, somewhere deep in their history.

    And, might that be the big lie? Was something done to that child to steal him/her away?

    I still very much doubt whether this has anything to do with any…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @juniperfish Well, Spyfall was a romp I grant you, and I wish I didn’t feel this way, but it left me kind of cold, sadly.

    I admit that throughout most of it, that’s how I felt. However, at the end, when the Master appeared in the hologram with the “it’s all a lie”/destruction of Gallifrey/Timeless Child message, suddenly it all came together for m…[Read more]

  • Craig replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @juniperfish I’ve released all your posts and kept the first one (I think the others were more or less duplicates). Hopefully you won’t have any more problems. I think if you post too many links the system thinks you’re possibly a spammer so it puts them in “pending”.

    Thanks for letting me know. And hopefully won’t happen again.

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @Juniperfish

    When I rewatched I noticed that Barton’s anger against his mother was planted in his very first scene. Yaz and Ryan, he thinks, have been granted an interview because it means there’ll be an article about him in the paper his mum reads. At the time you think it’s ‘legacy media’ he dislikes, later you realise it was his mum.

    Have…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @thane16 @Bluesqueakpip @Juniperfish and anyone else who has been speculating about the Timeless Child and whom I may have overlooked.

    Given the context of the references and the hints dropped, and after mulling over the question in what passes for my mind these days, I have ended up with a strong sense that the Timeless Child is/was  some kind…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @juniperfish

    Yeah Ms. Fish !    My goodness.    The purported fish was on the smart phone inside C’s office.

    The Doctor contacted O for assistance on it and a picture of a fish was on the screen display..

    Missy once told Clara she had a daughter.  I forget which episode. But interestingly I read a

    thing about Moffatt thinking up a cliff hanger…[Read more]

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