• @juniperfish

    That looks rather fun.

  • Miapatrick replied to the topic Dr Who News (4)

    @missy– oh, don’t use that word! (I don’t know how to make an angry devil face)… but, yup. For all ages, but the biggest bulk of potential new viewers is the young.  Capalidi racing around with a middle aged man- or a middle aged woman for that matter, might lose something there.

    as @janetteB says, it is all about the contrast. Agree with all…[Read more]

  • Missy replied to the topic Doctor Who News (3)

    @juniperfish

    Sorry to be so late. I’ve finally watched the video about the arctic.
    Outstanding. Why is it that PC manages to bring tears of joy to my eyes?
    The man is magical, and so is this video.
    Thank you so much JF.

    Regards,

    Missy

  • @bluesqueakpip — thanks for that. Thought it was spot on and eloquently put.

    @juniperfish — that’s also interesting, although I’d argue that the placing of the matrix in the notebook (much like the similar flourishes in modern Who) are just designed to mess with us rather than having a full-blown intention behind them. I’d say they stick them…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @juniperfish, @pedant and @puroandson—

    I’m kind of swithering between the two camps on this one — and this too will be my last utterance on the matter (I think Puro is right that this is a deeply complex subject for the forum. Perhaps a blog at some time in the future…).

    I think @juniperfish is right that there is a tendency to conflate all…[Read more]

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Juniperfish @puroandson

    Are any readings of modern Doctor Who which are not Moffat’s intended meanings “bad”?

    Which part of nobody is disputing that there are different readings are you having trouble understanding? Misrepresenting what is said for the third time is not going to make it true, it just looks a little tawdry.

    Sophistry not being a…[Read more]

  • ScaryB replied to the topic The Husbands Of River Song

    Oh my giddy aunt!

    How good was that?! (Although there seems to be an awful lot of dust particles in my house at the moment! 😥 ). Light finish to a stonking good season… then, oh no! The Singing Towers. I did have my suspicions about that in run-up to screening, but unlike @pedant re Hell Bent (that was SO well called 😉 ) I didn’t put it…[Read more]

  • @puroandson

    Yes, it’s my holiday avatar. 🙂

    @Juniperfish

    I’m vaguely thinking of changing my tag line to ‘I’m going to need a bigger flowchart’. 🙂 It was a very funny story; especially the scene where they went through the other’s various affairs. And Moffat finally sorted out the ‘new suit/haircut’ thing from Silence in the Library -…[Read more]

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @JimTheFish @arbutus @pedant @Juniperfish

    There is an old Irish joke (that is to say, a joke of Irish origin) about an Englishman lost in a rural area of Ireland, who ask a farmer for directions. The farmer thinks for a moment and says: “Well, I wouldn’t start from here if I were you.”  (I am fairly sure that Dave Allen was the first I heard tel…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Hell Bent

    Well, it’s taken a while to wade through all these posts. But critical theory — we’re going there again? Really? I shan’t wade into this again because I think I did so during the Buffy threads earlier in the year but thought I’d just say that @juniperfish‘s posts on the subject have been some of the most measured, thoughtful and just plain right…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @juniperfish      I believe that the show has become much more about metaphor during Moffat’s tenure. This has come up repeatedly in discussions here that have referred to myth, story, and extra textual references that might be similar to what in nineteenth-century music was called “programmatic”. The Tarot narrative that was discovered running th…[Read more]

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @juniperfish @puroandson @tardigrade

    Gosh, it’s hard to know where to start (which is pretty much the point of po-mo), so let’s start with @Arbutus who  nails it in two sentences.

    The problem with having presented the Doctor in the past as the “man with the plan”, as in “I knew it all along and was ready for you”, the Doctor lies, etc., is that…

    [Read more]

  • Whisht replied to the topic Hell Bent

    Just a couple of replies (as I know naff-all about structuralism!).

    @juniperfish – “Impossible Me” made me larf!

    @winston – no worries about my moniker. Either it’ll auto-correct to a card-game or ‘whilst’ rather than the actual “shut up” that it is!

    ;¬)

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Juniperfish @Bluesqueakpip @puroandson @lisa

    The problem with post-Modernism (and its Cleetus-The-Slack-Jawed-Yokel-like cousin, deconstructionism) is that it takes a perfectly sensible critique of structuralism (especially its obsession with the dual) and degrades it into a sub-6th-form (or to use the more useful American style, sub-Sophomore)…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Juniperfish

    So, to pin its “ultimate” truths onto Malory’s personal life or authorial intent (both common forms of humanist literary criticism) would be patently reductionist.

    I cheerfully admit that I’ve never read Barthes. But either you’ve condensed his argument over-much, or possibly I’m confusing the religious studies term ‘redu…[Read more]

  • Mersey replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @puroandson @juniperfish

    I definitely agree with @puroandson Barthes? Derrida? Who else? Pierce and his concept of sign? My position is that Jenna Coleman was leaving the show so Clara had to do that either. One way or the other. They wanted to do that smoothly without grief and sense of guilt and without any impact on the future events. I think…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @juniperfish  What we can see, for ourselves, as the BBC have released the Hell Bent script, is that the journey from script to screen has added greater narrative ambiguity than a literal interpretation of the script would have delivered. .  . . I think narrative ambiguity is part of the creative design of the show under his [Moffat’s] tenure. .…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Bluesqueakpip

    With you on seeing Capdoc hang around for a very long time !   TomDoc is also a big

    favorite of mine.

    and

    @jphamlore                                   @Ichabod                                @pedant                               @juniperfish

    @puroandson

     

    “The obsessional bond had to be broken”     is a post I’ve  read here.…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @morpho  @jphamlore  … it really seems to me that losing Clara personally isn’t what bothers him so much as I read it, it’s his failure in his duty of care – so if he knew she was safe, he’d be OK without her. It’s not say Rose we’re talking, where his loss was much more personal.  [I 100% agree with this.]

    Well, he was *trying* to set it up thi…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Juniperfish, @pedant and @puroandson

    Hmm. Well, I’ll drop in some comments to the reader/author debate.

    Firstly, we’re not talking about readers and we’re not talking about authors. We’re talking scriptwriters, actors and viewers – and that does make a difference.

    A scriptwriter provides the skeleton for the final programme. The final…[Read more]

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