Reading all the wonderful discussion here is every bit as good as watching the actual episode and certainly makes rewatching so much more rewarding.

I made notes, rather a lot of notes so here goes;

@lisa I agree re’ Ashildr and Arya from GoT being very similar, something that irritated me a little as the time though I also agree with @Ichabod…[Read more]

@lisa  This ‘burden of care’ he mentions a lot (the phrase is “a duty of care”, UK rather than US, and is about parental or state guardianship of minors, I think — but probably other situations of responsibility as well, like for elders)
now. I think he is wondering going forward that he will not be able to control her. So will he let someth…[Read more]

@jimthefish  On which note, I for one am very glad that she didn’t turn out to be Susan, or Jenny, or Romana or whoever.

Me too.  Too much backstory, better to move on to something new, IMO.  @denvaldron  Thanks for the Viking overview — densely packed and concise; only what, exactly, does kaput mean in this context?  A swift and somewhat catast…[Read more]

@lisa – at the end, when confronting the Mire captain, the Doctor snatches his sonic glasses back from the chain around his neck and activates them as he says “i hacked your teleport” and you hear the sonic sound effect as the Mire is teleported back to his ship. So yes. The Doctor has them back. Broken in half, but back in his possession.

@pedant OK, fair enough. Young person, then? Not a child, but not yet an adult either.

@lisa I must not have been watching closely enough. I saw only one helmet. Good catch! I can’t recall the final outcome for the sonic sunglasses.

@lisa  Must say though that Ashildr an Arya from Game of T. are extremely close in the types of characters to me so far.

Let’s see — daughter of a warrior culture, dad a reasonably high status leader (of his village, though not, apparently, of actual raids like the one that return with the two prisoners), could become a warrior herself (a s…[Read more]

@lisa You are right, Missy said that to Clara, something long the lines of there being loads of nano-tech fixing the damage as the Dalek feed went in. Problem is, no one knows exactly what happens when it comes out. I’ve been wondering about that. Plus, wasn’t Clara still inside the Dalek when the Doctor gave up some of his regeneration energy?…[Read more]

@lisa

My question is how did there come to be only 2 chips? There were a lot of mire. I have
to re watch but it seems to me that there could have been more then 2 that the Doctor could
have taken. I think I’m missing something.

Didn’t those two chips come from the helmet of the one they grabbed for Ashildr to wear? All the rest left ahead of O…[Read more]

@spacedmunkee  Is it just me or was Odin’s appearance in the sky very Pythonesque. I was half expecting him to send the Doctor on a quest to seek the Holy Grail.    Or a huge foot come stamping down . . . !

Would this Doctor consider changing other events from his own timeline. <insert bonkers River theory here>.

Well, now that he’s deli…[Read more]

@bluesqueakpip @arbutus +all

Thanks for the bigup @bluesqueakpip, but I think you’ve summarised my feelings with

but I don’t think the dominant culture of the Time Lords is portrayed as a good one, or one that is likely to produce good individuals.

When we met our first female Time Lord in Invasion of Time she’s passively watching a war fleet o…[Read more]

@lisa   Well, he flouts TL rules, or bends them, or challenges them openly, like trying to use the Tardis to take him to the future he mustn’t return to yet in BtF, but he’s forced to find another way (presumably the “right” way) back.  And at other times, “I can’t do that.”  “I know when I can, I know when I can’t,” pretty much depending on th…[Read more]

@purofilion @serahni @lisa

I am reminded of a comment by Spock towards the end of the Wrath of Kahn (not verbatim, but close enough): “Khan is very intelligent. But inexperienced: his tactics indicate two dimensional thinking.” Just about the only time Trek explicitly acknowledged that space is a very different battlefield to a …well,…[Read more]

@ichabod  Oh, I certainly wasn’t asking if I was on the right track with what’s actually going on, just whether or not I’d translated what people’s theories about it were. lol.  I think it’s safe to say, by now, that predicting Moffat’s massive arcs accurately is troublesome at the very least.

@lisa @purofilion  I am pretty reasonably sure mos…[Read more]

@Juniperfish and @Ichabod

I think the Doctor’s occasional sexual attraction to humans was almost certainly a side effect of being ‘last of his kind’. There are, after all, other examples of Gallifreyan/Human relationships, and other cross-species relationships in the TV stories. But to be truthful, I always took the ‘really tight skirt’ as purely…[Read more]

@lisa   makes me think he always felt an outcast his entire lives.  That’s the mystery that most intrigues me. Maybe the scene in Listen of him sleeping in the barn was a tiny window into that?

Yeah, I get that too — and the talk of his doing badly at the academy . . . and hanging out with that kid who spectacularly flunked and who now talks…[Read more]

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@lisa  I have responded to your query concerning the publicity photos on the Spoilers thread, since the subject matter could be seen as verging on spoiler territory for those particularly sensitive in such matters.

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@lisa   I don’t think that this Fisher King could have been a water creature in any true sense. According to my recollection, he told the Doctor that  his people, when they arrived, would have drained the world – presumably of water, implying either that they didn’t need it or had a use for it elsewhere.

The name reminded @purofilion of Slavic…[Read more]

@purofilion @jimmythetulip @lisa

As I hoped to convey, no harm really done. Just a note for the future. Honestly, I never thought running a forum about a TV show could get so complicated. But people are people and they all have their individual quirks.

Puro, I think you lot (Aussies) will beat us Scots easily in the next game so I don’t think…[Read more]