• syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @ps1l0v3y0u oh boy! I had to Google the C Warrior sketch….. indeed, a woman’s brain….!

    And fair enough one could say it’s “people, dude, relax, it’ll work.” And that’s great but if that’s how Rose’s journey progressed following this episode, it’s a problem- a small one perhaps, but the development was thin as a nail.

  • syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @whohar @ps1l0v3y0u @dentarthurdent @janetteB  Another thought that our son had in reference to RTD2 comeback were these specific issues of identity.

    As the Doctor was male, he couldn’t let go of the Dr/Donna crisis, but Donna could pass the meta crisis energy to her non-binary daughter so this burden was split & Donna avoided inevitable le…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    To all….. this is a fascinating discussion. And yes, the nature of ethical topicality was observed & lauded by RTD & Chibbers post-2015 (I love your descriptions @ps1l0v3y0u ) & whilst they tied up my favourite season (s 5) a little too speedily, @PS & @dentarthurdent I didn’t see it as a reset myself? But most definitely is Mavity a clue to ano…[Read more]

  • WhoHar replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @thane16 @dentarthurdent @janetteb @winston

    @ps1l0v3y0u

    It’s an interesting discussion.

    On the etymology of woke: IIRC it came out of the Civil rights movement in the US (pre-Covid) with the phrase “Stay woke” meaning stay awake i.e. be alert to what’s going on around you. It was taken on by liberals and it started to appear in the le…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @winston halloo!! @ps1l0v3y0u @whohar @dentarthurdent

    yes, Moffat loved the humour & it’s what made it entertaining to me- thus rewatchable. I rewatched Listen and the Under the Lake 2-parter with 12’s “cards” that Clara organised.

    RTD did humour too. Once. And even though message-heavy Dr Who existed in the 60s it was clever, sardonic, mature,…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @ps1l0v3y0u    I agree that Disney, with their tendency to milk old classics for all they’re worth, and cartoonise everything, was not a good fit.   And since their name was on it, I assume they vetoed anything too adult.   Their only plus is, they tend to be woke, and much as I deride that term and tendency, I guess it’s better than being bigot…[Read more]

  • @ps1l0v3y0u   Hmmm, so you think RTD was making himself essential?   Possibly so.   Obviously Mrs Flood / The Rani was an extremely long-distance arc.

    But suppose RTD and the Beeb had parted ways halfway through, I guess someone else could have found a continuation of the Mrs Flood storyline.   But as for all the other storylines – first it woul…[Read more]

  • @ps1l0v3y0u

    Well, I just watched the final double episode, and the Doctor seemed a lot more human and like his normal self in that one.

    How ‘monster’ could an arc be?   Mrs Flood has been lurking for – how many seasons?

    The ‘science’ in that was so – metaphysical – I don’t think I can nitpick anything.   I’m not sure how the Bone Creatures who…[Read more]

  • winston replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @dentarthurdent  @ps1l0v3y0u   @thane16  Hello!   There are some very interesting posts here and it has taken me awhile to read them all. I have no problem with social messaging especially when so many more people seem to get their information and news from screens. There is proof that watching too much violence or too much doom scrolling can a…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @ps1l0v3y0u   Chibz’ ‘history’ eps made me cringe because of the inaccuracies in the ones I do know a little about, which leads me to doubt his accuracy on those I don’t know about. (I stole that from somebody). I have to admit I didn’t watch Rosa because I was sure it was going to be a depressingly simplistic stereotype of white men bad, black w…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @ps1l0v3y0u. Lol! No, but mine really are….

    in the social messaging of Chibbers I thought it was overtly political – except I understand that’s both essential (plays & stories were always this) & part of Who’s rich history but something about the execution of their messages was clunky or unsubtle….

     

  • syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @dentarthurdent @ps1l0v3y0u absolutely, I always ask anyone on the forum those same questions- to the ether & beyond!
    <p style=”text-align: left;”>I felt the same about Chibbers characters there. Certainly my street had a lot of young ladies thrilled with a female Doc & it was good to see many costumes recreated from the show over those next few…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @thane16 Um yes, that Edit function does seem a bit – erratic. I try not to use it. If I have to, and I’m feeling cautious, I just copy the whole post into a text editor first, that way if something goes wrong I’ve got a copy on my system.
    And long comments, I do use a text editor and just paste the whole thing into the edit box.
    I think the…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @dentarthurdent Oooh I loved Cassandra! That whole configuration with Cassandra, the Doctor/Tennant playing her as well Piper’s brilliant mimicking worked a treat. The “bouncy castle” line is ace!

    That’s one episode I rewatch because it’s funny, it takes one out of oneself but the ending, where the clone-grown humans are  released & well, brin…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    Oh boy! My post vanished!

    I’ll do a recap. @whohar @dentarthurdent @ps1l0v3y0u

    I enjoyed Listen, particularly how Clara & the Doc can play against each other & poke fun? In my 20s I couldn’t accept my figure or my face.

    I wondered as to how RTD with his “that’s alright” from the Toymaker seemed a gentle dig at Moffat? Though RTD brought b…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @ps1l0v3y0u   I think what you call ‘bloke adjuncts’ is simply within the normal range of reactions of one human towards another human(oid).   The premise of the show is that the Doctor is the Main Character (and happened to be a bloke).   The Companion was, like all hero’s companions, a supporting character – except that, from ‘Rose’ onwar…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @syzygy @thane16 Um.

    I think @ps1l0v3y0u meant that women could sometimes be written as “another bloke” as opposed to a well thought out female character. If I’m wrong please chip in.

    I’m not sure what that means. Well, if they got drunk with the other – girls, cracked juvenile bad-taste jokes, and went out on the pull on Saturday night, I guess t…[Read more]

  • WhoHar replied to the topic On the Sofa 11

    @ps1l0v3y0u @dentarthurdent @thane16

    Was this tendency because the Doctor was (then) male, and the companions, as ever, were female

    I mean, yes I think so. The companion does tend to riff off the lead and, with Moff’s previous writing, we know he likes to explore the sexual politics of the traditional male-female relationship.

    I liked RTDs take:…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic Dr Who News (5)

    @dentarthurdent I think @ps1l0v3y0u meant that women could sometimes be written as “another bloke” as opposed to a well thought out female character. If I’m wrong please chip in.

    There are so many rules or concepts associated with writing for any character that I don’t know how anybody does it without facing criticism. But I was impressed with Am…[Read more]

  • Dentarthurdent replied to the topic Dr Who News (5)

    @ps1l0v3y0u

    Some people were annoyed that Moff’s companions were obvious bloke adjuncts. They have a point. I’ sure Bill ‘molested by a puddle’ also had some people frothing. 

    Not sure what ‘bloke adjuncts’ means.   They were normal heterosexual people (like, the 90%) who naturally had boyfriends (or, in the case of Bill, girl-puddl…[Read more]

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