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3 days, 6 hours ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic General Music thread 4
@winston oh, I love that!! We had a wall phone which I forever chatted on ensuring no one could call my parents at night! Ours was mango yellow. 😀
I remember a good friend across the street pulling out some Dylan & Cold Chisel (Cheap Wine, Forever Now), the latter which I’d never heard before (my parents were notorious haters of rock) & playing t…[Read more]
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5 days, 8 hours ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic General Music thread 4
@ps1l0v3y0u Thanks. That’s a lot to digest.
The reason I mentioned ‘improv’ was sparked by ‘On the Turning Away’. That has four sung verses, followed by nine guitar solo ‘verses’ (not sure what to call them, I expect there’s a word for them). Except that sometimes there’s eleven in the solo, or even thirteen. (There are plenty of videos on…[Read more]
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1 week, 1 day ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic General Music thread 4
@winston Your experience with ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ was similar to mine with ‘Pulse’ (which just happened to incorporate the whole of DSOTM as the second half, although the musical arrangements were different in many places).
In fact I’ve noticed there are many different versions of tracks on the Net, some official, some bootleg from various…[Read more]
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1 week, 1 day ago - View
winston replied to the topic General Music thread 4
@ps1l0v3y0u @dentarthurdent @thane16 I was about 14 yrs old when my bestie called me on the phone(avocado green and attached to the wall) to announce the purchase of a new album. I went over to her house where we holed up in the basement bent over her portable record player and heard Dark side of the Moon for the 1st time. The 1st time of h…[Read more]
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1 week, 3 days ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@dentarthurdent no, you’re right: Floyd had harmonic, & romantic or enlightenment tonal harmony baked in, though tempo wasn’t part of any classical conventional certainty, at least not after the 14th century & the shift from sacred to secular composition allowing for specific tempo markings not interfering with sacred musical or liturgical pra…[Read more]
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2 weeks ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@nerys @winston I can recall Donna’s appeal which hit me more in the episodes with Doctor 14. I saw a Short on YouTube in which she bemoans giving away her money with her husband, Rose & the Doctor highlighting her compassion & empathy.
I also remember how she heard & felt, temporarily, the Ood’s song of captivity which the Doctor heard at all…[Read more]
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2 weeks, 1 day ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@Thane16 @ps1l0v3y0u That beginning, with no music, just a creaky windpump, is very effective. And Morricone’s score, particularly Jill’s Theme which is a haunting piece of music.
I watched it recently and managed to follow all the plot threads (for the first time). Not that it’s complicated, just that Leone leaves the audience to join up the…[Read more] -
2 weeks, 1 day ago - View
winston replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@nerys I think Donna is feisty , mouthy ,loud and angry and I love her. She reminds me of one of my sisters, my aunt and my mom , slightly scary and liable to run all over me but there is nobody better to have in your corner when the going gets tough. The Doctor Donna will fight for what is right and for the underdog. I think she is a great c…[Read more]
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2 weeks, 3 days ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@whohar @ps1l0v3y0u @winston @dentarthurdent @nerys and all
I think a comic-con panel had Billie Piper. A fan asked the question …..the only question that can ever be asked! “Are you the doctor?” And Piper said “I’m not the Doctor I’m Rose Tyler on hiatus.”
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3 weeks, 4 days ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic Joy to the World
@ps1l0v3y0u I’d forgotten the exact dialogue. That discussion of ‘variables not being equally weighted’ sounds like mumbo-jumbo to me, I’m pretty sure that with a multi-digit code like that, the ‘variables’ are exactly equally weighted, any number is exactly as probable as 9,999 others. The Tardis (which is presumably also a super…[Read more]
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1 month ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
Gosh, look away for a couple of days and the comments fill up.
@thane16 Syzygy (I thought I posted this) That lecture was in Bill Potts first episode, The Pilot. Transcript at chakoteya.net.
I thought the idea that Rose(2) could solve the metacrisis by being non-binary – it didn’t really make sense to me, and it felt distinctly forced – RTD…[Read more] -
1 month ago - View
WhoHar replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
As the Doctor was male, he couldn’t let go of the Dr/Donna crisis
Which is weird if you think about it. Imagine it had been written the other way around.
Also the Doc had just been female and this “ability” to shrug this off had never been explored.
The messaging is fine, but the delivery was woeful. There seemed to be a l…[Read more]
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1 month ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@ps1l0v3y0u oh boy! I had to Google the C Warrior sketch….. indeed, a woman’s brain….!
And fair enough one could say it’s “people, dude, relax, it’ll work.” And that’s great but if that’s how Rose’s journey progressed following this episode, it’s a problem- a small one perhaps, but the development was thin as a nail.
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1 month, 1 week ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@whohar @ps1l0v3y0u @dentarthurdent @janetteB Another thought that our son had in reference to RTD2 comeback were these specific issues of identity.
As the Doctor was male, he couldn’t let go of the Dr/Donna crisis, but Donna could pass the meta crisis energy to her non-binary daughter so this burden was split & Donna avoided inevitable le…[Read more]
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1 month, 1 week ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
To all….. this is a fascinating discussion. And yes, the nature of ethical topicality was observed & lauded by RTD & Chibbers post-2015 (I love your descriptions @ps1l0v3y0u ) & whilst they tied up my favourite season (s 5) a little too speedily, @PS & @dentarthurdent I didn’t see it as a reset myself? But most definitely is Mavity a clue to ano…[Read more]
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1 month, 1 week ago - View
WhoHar replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@thane16 @dentarthurdent @janetteb @winston
It’s an interesting discussion.
On the etymology of woke: IIRC it came out of the Civil rights movement in the US (pre-Covid) with the phrase “Stay woke” meaning stay awake i.e. be alert to what’s going on around you. It was taken on by liberals and it started to appear in the le…[Read more]
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1 month, 1 week ago - View
syzygy replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@winston halloo!! @ps1l0v3y0u @whohar @dentarthurdent
yes, Moffat loved the humour & it’s what made it entertaining to me- thus rewatchable. I rewatched Listen and the Under the Lake 2-parter with 12’s “cards” that Clara organised.
RTD did humour too. Once. And even though message-heavy Dr Who existed in the 60s it was clever, sardonic, mature,…[Read more]
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1 month, 1 week ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic On the Sofa 11
@ps1l0v3y0u I agree that Disney, with their tendency to milk old classics for all they’re worth, and cartoonise everything, was not a good fit. And since their name was on it, I assume they vetoed anything too adult. Their only plus is, they tend to be woke, and much as I deride that term and tendency, I guess it’s better than being bigot…[Read more]
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1 month, 1 week ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic The Interstellar Song Contest
@ps1l0v3y0u Hmmm, so you think RTD was making himself essential? Possibly so. Obviously Mrs Flood / The Rani was an extremely long-distance arc.
But suppose RTD and the Beeb had parted ways halfway through, I guess someone else could have found a continuation of the Mrs Flood storyline. But as for all the other storylines – first it woul…[Read more]
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1 month, 1 week ago - View
Dentarthurdent replied to the topic The Interstellar Song Contest
Well, I just watched the final double episode, and the Doctor seemed a lot more human and like his normal self in that one.
How ‘monster’ could an arc be? Mrs Flood has been lurking for – how many seasons?
The ‘science’ in that was so – metaphysical – I don’t think I can nitpick anything. I’m not sure how the Bone Creatures who…[Read more]
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