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    Craig @craig

    We have a new music thread. I will start the new thread off with what I think is a modern classic pop song. Apropos of nothing. Nothing to do with Who, I just like it. And it reminds me of a time when I was a bit more wild than I am these days.

    The previous thread can be found here:

    Whisht @whisht

    Hi all – I’ve been tardy and not logged in to thank @craig for the new Music thread (yes the other one was creaking a bit!)

    So….. flowers !!

    So here are three ‘flower’ songs:
    Some classic shoe-gazing from Galaxie 500 –

    Then some live (fiddly) stuff from Radiohead

    and finished off with some polished David Sylvian

    It may well be all a little ‘precious’ but whatever – if ya want something more caustic then I’ll go Pil and Damned !!


    Whisht @whisht

    So, I saw on the news that a known racist and bigot in the UK, has had milkshake thrown over him on a couple of occasions recently and thought “I wonder would @pedant approve?”


    Anyway, here’s something…. provocative in completely other ways.



    Intolerant; lactose

    (Or Tommy Bukkake, depending on which tweeter you were following…)

    Whisht @whisht

    @pedant – oooof – that’s strong, but yeah.

    Don’t be hurt if I don’t find a song to match your reply though!


    One of the greatest singing voices you will ever hear:

    Craig @craig

    @pedant You beat me to it. But here’s the beautiful clip from ‘The Man Who Knew Too Much’.

    Truly one of the greats.



    Any excuse (this actually trended on Twitter longer than que sera)…

    syzygy @thane16

    @pedant  @craig

    Absolutely phenomenal, wasn’t she?

    Two nights ago we were watching a Doris Day movie (hadn’t done this in AGES) and when we awoke the next morning, found out she’d died.

    A genuine talent to be missed.

    syzygy @thane16

    I remember many eons ago putting on Calamity Jane – we had a drum-kit & 2 keyboards only & a fantastic young Maori lass as Calamity.  “Calamity’s word is sacred!”



    So that’s where Meatloaf got the inspiration for this performance of Paradise By The Dashboard Light, featuring the sublime Karla DeVito

    syzygy @thane16


    Well, normally I’d agree but Meatloaf is TGOAT -his inspiration only from Zeus. Karla is Hecate. Or….something.

    She’s unbelievably good isn’t she?

    And I think, I think, Paradise is the best rock song ever written, actually.

    Closely followed, of course, by Wilde’s Kids in America…. (Seen recently in S2 of Killing Eve)




    It Doris remembering to keep *acting* during the song in the performance that triggered the link.

    If you click through to that video the uploader got a note from DeVito, who was very keen that all who did that tour got credit. Ellen Foley on the rekkid, of course.

    This is the performance that “broke” Meatloaf, who up to this had struggled for airplay, and led to Bat Out of Hell being in the UK Album charts (as well as many others) for 7 straight years. OGWT did that for a couple of people who went on the great things (The Police, if memory serves, among other).

    And I saw it the first time round… Thank you Whispering Bob Harris (and mum and dad for letting me stay up to watch it – it was the talk of school the next Monday).

    If you can track down the Old Grey Whistle Test Definitive Collection (BBC DVD) it is totally worth it. All live performances, with no studio audience. It was *entirely* about the music.

    syzygy @thane16

    @pedant indeed yes, this track showed his comedic quality when prior it was all “take me very seriously intensity.”

    Whistle Test -know it well. Various faculties had access to whole boxes of recorded cassettes!

    Time was a beast, though.

    Whisht @whisht

    @thane16 “Syzygy” – wonderful!

    and on googling it, I discovered this….

    I think its just right.

    I’m now off to listen to more of them!

    syzygy @thane16


    Oh now, that is VERY interesting -a double minimalist piece using contrary time sigs!

    Exactly like Thane and I !

    Naturally, I thought we were no longer @Thane’s but ….the other ….one…which I can’t ever spell. Actually I can’t be in the same room as the ….other one or we go all “kerblooey.”



    syzygy @thane16

    I know it aint Christmas but I wanted some Benjamin Britten I could actually share with you. ‘This Little Babe’ is considered one of the most challenging for any children’s choir. Our nun, a delightful demon by the name of Sister Alphonsus taught it to us in 4 months. At this tempo. Which is correct. 1 min 3o seconds generally. They came in a little tardy but niiice. Applause deserved. No wonder the conductor looks slim: she burns a thousand calories every time!

    Syzygy the elder.

    Whisht @whisht

    hey Sygers (!) @thane16
    glad you like the Japanese band’s song – though it was the first I listened to it did seem the best after clicking on a few others!

    And LOVED the Britten – when do they breathe??

    Below is an oblique song as I can’t think of a better one for Paul Darrow’s character in Blake’s 7.
    His character was similar to ‘the bad guy in the good guy’s team’ eg Toby Meres (Anthony Valentine) or maybe Cross (Patrick Mower) in Callan.

    But (my sepia memory) of Darrow was of a far more nuanced character (which … erm.. isn’t exactly illustrated by this animation but… hey ho)

    Though perhaps showing my age, the first time I think I heard this song was by the more tuneful Siouxsie

    syzygy @thane16

    @whisht Thank you for that link & the lovely “trust in me; sssleep ssafe & ssound” with its gorgeous sibilants. And unfortunately I don’t know Darrow very well at all. So I’ll try to educate myself.

    Also @arbutus where be you?

    The Britten choon is quirky, Whisht, but the breathing is quite ‘exact’ & whilst the impression created is they’re all singing at once with no time to pause, they actually do because of the format of the canon. A jolly good one & sung at terrific pace which was Britten’s intent. Sleight of hand & voice, I believe.


    Whisht @whisht


    “Sad news one morning, got out the break of day…”
    Dr John has passed away

    Here’s his song Marie Laveau (Dr John is kind’ve a male version of her character).

    “She made Gris Gris shh kaa shh kaa”

    and some boogie piano playing (I was looking for a live version but the ones I found are a bit ‘fast’).

    Arbutus @arbutus

    @thane16    Oh it’s you! 🙂 I read the notification and wondered who the heck is this Syzygy person?

    I’ve been thinking of this lovely eclectic bunch of humans recently and been meaning to jump back into the pool, but I’m so easily distracted these days. I even made the Duolingo Owl cry. (I’ll be getting back at that Spanish shortly, I promise!) Lots of great posts on here as always, although too many inspired by sad events. I saw a wonderful video clip of the parade for Dr. John in N.O. Mr. Arbutus was absolutely delighted to see so many in-tune trombones in one place.  🙂

    I can see I have a lot of reading to do on other threads, and I will do it. Meanwhile, hope everyone and everything is flowing along as usual.   *heart*

    doctor-levina @doctor-levina
    Whisht @whisht

    A kinda sad excuse to post this.
    Joao Gilberto passed away at the age of 88.
    A bit obvious perhaps, but it is a lovely song – The Girl From Ipanema

    and the rather lovely Desafinado

    Arbutus @arbutus

    Hola, @whisht!

    I saw this news as well, while I was off exploring the heartlands of Quebec. I love Desafinado, and that is such a lovely, silky performance. There’s a recording from quite a bit later, mid seventies, that includes this svelte number:

    syzygy @thane16


    @arbutus goodness there’s some goddam bad news with Gilberto -88 (I thought 92 -clearly bad adding up or plain optimism).

    Now you dudes and dudettes will know this: deep and long, long ago (but not anymore).



    Arbutus @arbutus

    @thane16     I don’t think I *do* know this, although it sounds very retro, like something 20-year-old me would have liked to if I’d heard it. (20-year-old me, now there’s something to try and wrap my head around!)

    Whisht @whisht

    *hey @thane16 – is that a Stranger Things inspired blast from the 80’s?
    (I’ll sadly admit to not having binged on ST yet – but I will!!)

    Its not something I heard at the time – but I like it!

    And “svelte” is a great description @arbutus !
    that’s another lovely piece of mellow sound from Gilberto

    Whisht @whisht

    Now as most here will know, this week is the 50th anniversary of landing people on the Moon.
    I’d love to hear any childhood memories of people who actually remember it (I wasn’t alive yet!).

    In terms of music, I’ll add obvious bits of Bowie, some Eno and anything else I can think of, but has anyone got any musical memories or connections to share?

    I’ll kick it off with something that predates the landing but is perhaps from the start of the ‘race’ that led to it.

    And in a squint-and-I-kinda-get-what-you-mean connection here’s the demo recording of PJ Harvey’s Yuri G

    Whisht @whisht

    oh – and @doctor-levina I’ve been trying to figure out a way of describing what I thought of your selections and…. I keep coming up a blank!

    “Its a unique voice etc” is a bit… rubbish as a comment from me!

    But thanks for posting as its great to hear new things and great for newer people to the forum posting things
    Looking forward to hearing more!

    syzygy @thane16

    I know this is obvious: I love The Duke!  (Dr Edward Kennedy Duke Ellington)

    To all — when America looked up to the stars & saw its potential.

    May it do so again.

    The Syzygyzssss’


    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave


    Syzgy, I searched (in vain) for an old Bugs Bunny cartoon set in the medieval period that featured the Duke of Ellington and the Count of Basie.

    But I found something even better: Cab Calloway and Betty Boop doing Minnie the Moocher.


    syzygy @thane16

    Man! I edited my 6 lines (young siggers) here & then it disappeared. I’d suggest no editing of posts, for now. I know others said that was happening.

    Basically I was saying 1) mum loves Eno & his Music for Elevators 2) I like Reich & mum did a discography of his work as a uni project & got the 100% mark for this. It had to have every comma, dash, full stop (or period for Americans) & she actually liked the precision of that work. I couldn’t do it myself! 3) Mum would hate me saying all that so ssh. 4) Moon landing at my school, some students think it’s a fake as there’s “no wind on the moon” rather than accepting the more obvious hypothesis which is that Americans want their flag when they’ve conquered something & they predicted no wind & so starched the flag!

    Worse is that one those people is a teacher. Not my teacher & not a science teacher but @pedant says my teachers are imbeciles. The English teacher didn’t know Margaret Atwood which mum says “is a tad worrying.”

    The young Syzygy.

    Arbutus @arbutus

    @blenkinsopthebrave    That is absolutely surreal. Cab is what, a ghost walrus??? I love it. Interestingly, in the very cool opening, the band is actually playing St. James Infirmary, another one I love.

    @thane16     Wonderful Ellington, he was amazing. He was never behind the times, was he? Young Syzygy, I should be astonished at what you say about belief in a “fake moon landing”, but honestly, these days I don’t even shake my head anymore at the idiocy around us. I was just reading a local news story about a bike lane that has become the busiest in North America, and several people on comment boards simply dismissed it. “Those numbers can’t be right because they don’t seem right to me, clearly the city just made them up.” People will believe what they want to, but I’m not always sure why they want to!

    Hi ho, off to bed, but tomorrow will try to find musical illustration of stupid. 🙂

    syzygy @thane16


    thank you. That is delightful. How liquid & shimmery the sound.

    I’m at a loss for better words. I had a funny situation with a cleaning woman. So funny I had to have a lie down, a red wine (clean skins Mr Blenkinsop: $2 a bottle; worth $18 per 4 or $46 each) so I’m off to the pub to share my story. See if anyone thinks this woman is a shallow, shady, sham of a person.

    I Luuurve Bet’s shoes. Always have & her curtain. I think S .the younger would like an escape curtain too.

    “yee, hah, dih, hey, hey hey hoh, hoooo.”  What a gem!

    Whoo and toot-too.

    Syzygy the Elder

    Whisht @whisht

    So, 50 years ago today, Apollo 11 launched.
    An obvious choice perhaps but lovely (and from memory Eno had to play what he had written backwards for it to become this).

    Now to listen to the Moocher!



    Missing a trick, surely….

    Whisht @whisht

    @blenkinsopthebrave – I looooove Minnie the Moocher so here is a slightly clearer version (I’ll leave the Blues Brothers one to anyone who wants to do the obvious ones {cough} ;¬)

    Now, the astronauts fifty years ago are (I guess) in space at this point, sooo…. I found a song with an obvious title and for the first time listened to the lyrics (to see if it was appropriate to posting here).

    I’ll leave it to you to decide whether this, today, in 2019, is appropriate to post as a song with lyrics that go…

    “Maybe you’ll be president
    But know right from wrong
    Or in the flood you’ll build an Ark
    And sail us to the moon”

    actually I’ll spell it out – the current President of the USA does NOT know right from wrong and is a racist.

    Anyway, here’s a video I didn’t know and although it has nothing to do with the anniversary other than the title, there is a lullaby aspect to it that fits the song and leaves us wondering “are they safe?”.

    (but if you’d rather a live version then fill your boots – I’m beginning tonight to like the song more than I thought I did).

    Now I’m slightly angry (about Trump) and so although I had this one stacked up for next week I have to play it.

    1969 – a year of hope. But yes also one that had racist fractures within its society.
    Which leads not just to disdain to the individual, but to appalling chasms in terms of wealth and opportunity equality that are embarrassingly still here today FIFTY years later (you could say a hundred, or many more….).

    Whisht @whisht

    something a bit more positive(?) maybe

    we’re all floating in space after all (ooh there’s a Flaming Lips song that mentions that…)

    Anything else from people’s memories or thoughts of space and hope and strivng for something better?

    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave


    Thoughts of space and hope and striving for something better

    This seemed appropriate:

    And, although not music, this seemed especially appropriate, both for @whisht and for all of us. It is something that was produced in 1949, and in light of recent events, it qualifies, I think, as an example of “thoughts of space and hope and striving for something better.”

    syzygy @thane16

    @whisht the Radiohead’s beautiful -it all is. And I know where you’re coming from. Except clearly yesterday I didn’t/wasn’t. I was in the “white person, privileged position.” I figure the reason these things happen to me is because I’m in the wrong space. Also, there’s some lessons I need to learn & never do (or not yet anyway).


    Well, that’s the 2nd time I’ve thought of Zimmer in 4 days.

    Superman. I never saw this poster. Not ever. Where was I?

    Coming from a Czech family with a brother who learned to read via comics which my parent tried to burn I wasn’t allowed any of this ‘stuff’ until our father watched Superman at the cinemas & was totally taken. Turned right around.

    @pedant facepalm. I never thought of it. But I was listening to an …..erm interview, that has 1 and half minutes not many people have heard. In fact, it’s extremely hard to hear properly. Being wet ‘n’ all. 😉

    Whisht @whisht

    So its a 3 day(?) flight to the moon.

    I should have paced my “space” and “flight” songs!


    erm, well pop-pickers, this apparently was number 1 in the Billboard charts which is kinda futuristic (if you want a better version but sadly without the crevates…)

    But for something that I actually like(!) here’s Frank.

    Whisht @whisht

    So, still in space.

    Basically the crew are… highly involved passengers.

    though only Iggy had a certain starman la-la-ing in the background


    syzygy @thane16


    Oh my heart….Iggy & The Starman’s. But is he Duke at this point….in his head?  I think he was also “la-la’ing” in mime. All those mean mime jokes? Bowie loved miming.  And I think Bowie would have loved the anniversary too.

    Whisht @whisht

    ha ha @thane16 – only Bowie could mime la-la’s.

    @pedant will be wanting me to post Starman.

    So I’ll post this

    syzygy @thane16

    @whisht gorgeous. I remember an unpleasant musician friend (we stopped the friendship a long time ago) who didn’t like the Project: not enough “head voice” which is a) wrong and b) who cares! It was something so very special for those people involved.

    Now, not enough love for Lennon here. Also, we need a lady so I offer this.

    Whisht @whisht

    @thane16 – Syzy! That Louise Gold piece was amazing!
    Never heard that before (nor do I think I’ve heard of Louise Gold).

    For tonight’s music I think I’ll try these two (both similar and very very different).

    From Neil Armstrong’s tape that he brought.
    I would be surprised if Aldrin and Collins didn’t think about throttling him with it but luckily… they realised maybe he was useful using the throttle (chortle yuk yuk yuk)
    (is this the one in First Man? comments suggest so)

    I’ve tried listening to Lunar Rhapsody and the others and… well we know where Star Trek came from I guess. But its hard going.
    This has more of an Ellington feel(?) but that’s maybe me just reaching (for the stars?)
    But it does have more obvious theremin which is always a plus.

    tbh I think he bought it for the cover but that’s just me.

    I think this is the right night for this next song (ie some of the samples are from this day 50 years ago with “trans-lunar Injection Burner”).
    If it is night wherever you are, turn out the lights, or sit outside looking up at the stars if you’re lucky enough and just…. bliss out.

    syzygy @thane16


    Glad you liked her. There are some issues with female singers which are entirely a problem I have only. SO many I can listen to and absolutely adore but a whole CD of? Nope. That’s why Vinyl was good -listen to 6 tracks, have a rest….

    The other voice I like is Carol Kidd ….but another night. I want to listen to more of your choices this evening before ALL the lights go out (which is obviously better to view the stars with -particularly if you’re reaching for them while throttling into gear…)

    syzygy @thane16

    @whisht you mentioned theremin….

    A few people might not know it’s an instrument you play by not touching it.


    Whisht @whisht

    Hi @thane16 – Syzy (sorry but I will just use that if yous don’t mind)

    That is a fantastic video of someone learning the Theremin from an expert (who even developed her own technique that others now use!).
    I really enjoyed it as he is obviously a decent musician, but is confounded by the precision that Karolina(?) shows you need.

    Which is why this is essential

    Whisht @whisht

    Hello ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be your captain for this section of the flight….

    … no, not Beefheart, why do you ask?

    I’m Captain Obvious.

    fwiw when I was growing up, I never gave the Police enough credit for just how avant garde they were.
    I guess they fall under the category of Post Punk (ie not thrashy Rock n Roll, no guitar solos, more emotionally subtle etc) but its an amazing combination of styles of Jazz(?) and Reggae.
    Amazing music for just 3 people.


    For all you doubters out there… doubting is good (Darwin), often provocative (Kaufman), sometimes its the backbone of wonder(ing) (“nothing up his sleeve then nothing is cool”) and is always necessary.
    But that doesn’t mean that doubting should be done on everything all the time because you think doubting is cool.
    Doubt, but stand that up to evidence or laughter or insight and if you ain’t getting anywhere… keep it to yourself until you can get something.

    Not sure if most of the samples were before they landed but this is again, sitting on the floor, perhaps looking in an unfocused way but gently smiling…

    They were only on the moon surface for a couple of hours so this is for when they took off again.
    Or landed in the first place.
    Or maybe I’m ahead of myself and its splashdown in a few days.
    But … erm… this song is completely about flying and landing.
    Nothing else.
    No sireee, nope.

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