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  • #39764
    Anonymous @

    @ichabod and @arbutus how are you out there across the Pacific? You know the conversation we were having about religion and spirituality? I met again more people recently who believe in ‘spirituality’ as this special defining thing that is “not religion, no sir”.

    “I am not a religious person but I am deeply spiritual, in my behaviour”

    In Oz, it comes across as:

    “I’m not ei religeerz pieson but I’m soo deepley spirit-jewel  in moi behiv-ee-your, yeu -noi?”

    Did you get that? translation’s  a minefield!

    That old chestnut of ‘spiritual but not religious’ Oh, grr.

    #39766
    ichabod @ichabod

    @purofilion   Well, that’s me, really — an old chestnut?  Could be; you never know . . . so grrr away if it suits you.  What I mean is, I think that everything is basically energy in some (temporary and always changing) form, and that energy is also — numinous?  Luminal?  Numismatic?  Ah, not supernatural (since everything that is, is natural or it wouldn’t be here), but has other dimensions than the physical, and those dimensions are as real and significant as physicality is, and is native to our souls (which I have no doubt at all that we have, or are).

    But as to being religious: no, not by any definition that I know of.  I have no creation myth or long story connected to this idea of knotted energy + metaphysical dimensions.  I have no rituals (although I do a chi gong routine for personal energy when I remember to).  I have no rules except the root rule of a civil society (try to treat everyone as decently as you’d like them to treat you) which I consider common sense, not a “law” dispensed by the hand of a godly messenger.  I believe in the existence of no God of gods or other superior metaphysical beings, so there’s nothing to worship, really.  Unless you take concentrated attention to be a form of worship (as in Zen meditation/contemplation), which I do not.

    So yes, I consider myself spiritual (the universe has beyond-physical significance) but not religious (no God(s), no doctrine).  Or, I’m atheist but not materialist.  If there’s a mob of others out there who have similar beliefs, I don’t know them and I don’t seek them out because, why?  If you have no rituals and no complicated moral doctrine, you don’t need a “congregation” of like minded persons to congregate with and to be “religious” with.  I don’t consider myself “deeply spiritual”, but someone who sees the reality in a particular way, a product of my personal history of observation, reading, study, asking questions, meditation, fooling around with some out-of-the-way practices to find out about them and then generally forgetting about them, and so on, and therefore of no particular use to anybody else.

    As for Oz (mmm, like that — vowel glide and alliteration!), I can’t say — I’m American born, raised in Manhattan, living with husband in the SW state of New Mexico these past 45 yrs or so.

    best,

    yr old chestnut, Ichi

     

    #39778
    ichabod @ichabod
    #39927
    Craig @craig
    Emperor

    As Ben Elton used to say “A lIttle bit of politics”. But just wanted to urge everyone in the UK, no matter what your political persuasion, to get out and vote. Get off your arse and put a cross in a box. I don’t care who you vote for, but cast a vote for someone.

    #39950
    ichabod @ichabod

    So, following up on the discussion about Torchwood vs/and DW universe via John Frobisher’s Capaldi-face, are there T’wood fans here?  I tried, I really did, but I remember the show as having a campy vibe that mostly showed up as a sort of feverish overwroughtness (a much heavier does of which led me to abandon “True Blood” early on).  This impression is probably a figment of my imagination, but it’s why I T’wood just isn’t something that comes to mind automatically in with DW.  Frobisher stood out for me because the character didn’t carry that vibe at all — maybe because his situation was entirely about dealing with the aliens, not who was making out, or not making out, or obsessed over making out with whom, or Jack’s endless series of panful deaths and resurrections.

    Now I feel as if I ought to go watch some T’wood, just to find out whether any of that was there, or the memory is just a mix-up in my head . . . No, never mind.

    On the subject of doppelgängers (look, something supplied the umlaut automatically!  Good thing, since I don’ know how to do those accent signs with my keyboard at all), apparently I *am* one, at least for one person.  I was traveling in Germany a decade or so ago, and ran in to a priest somewhere along the Danube (Melk?  I think so) who stopped dead in his tracks because he saw me sitting on a bench and thought I was his grandmother’s ghost (and in broad daylight, too!), because I looked “just like” her.  That felt weird.  I wish the grandmother had still been alive — it would have been interesting to sit down for a coffee with her.

     

     

    #39951
    DenValdron @denvaldron

    That doppleganger thing happened to me all the time.  I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve had conversations with perfect strangers convinced I was this other person that they knew.  Eventually, I just learned to go along with it.   I guess I have one of those bland faces.

    #39952
    Whisht @whisht

    well @denvaldron if you will use that grey standard avatar, that confusion is likely to happen.

    ;¬)

    #39953
    Anonymous @

    Christ people. You English. The Conservatives!! Again. I’ve been watching ‘London Alive The Election’ for the last 3 flippin hours. Grr. I guess there’s the Scottish vote still, yeah? Overall, I think Cameron is still in no. 10.

    I say again, grr!

    Sorry, politics. A pet of mine. Well, of everyone, I should add.

    #40081
    superfan2015 @superfan2015

    Hello everyone!
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    If interested, please submit your name, topic of fandom, brief bio on what makes you truly a superfan and picture of yourself with your collection to fanaticscasting@gmail.com

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    #40109
    ichabod @ichabod

    A great scientist, lived to be quite old, and who for other reasons reminds me of — CapDoc!  It’s the hair, people!  And maybe the eyebrows, it’s hard to tell what with the glasses and all.  But her picture startled me — an Auntie on Gallifrey?!  She also sounds like a tough lady, which she would have had to have been.  I love the way the internet is slowly but surely bringing these forgotten, or deliberately hidden, women of science who’ve been largely forgotten, til now, but our cultural memory (such as it is, and that’s a pretty poor “such” to begin with):

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pioneering-danish-seismologist-inge-lehmann-celebrated-google-doodle-1501008

     

     

    #40151
    Arbutus @arbutus

    @ichabod    Thanks for that link! I agree that it’s great we are starting to hear about these women who made an impact, and it’s shameful that they have always been so anonymous. My husband, who knows a fair bit about earth science, had never heard of Lehmann. Thanks for sharing.  🙂

    #40152
    ichabod @ichabod

    @arbutus  — Thank you for that response!  You and your husband have made my day . . .

    #40165
    ScaryB @scaryb

    Just dropping back in to say a quick hello to everyone.

    Thanks to all those, inc @fatmaninabox, @Purofilion who sustained me in the darkness (and post 7 May in UK that’s a very creepy, evil, dark indeed) of alternate reality (aka Real Life) by keeping my memory alive in this place.

    😀

     

    #40167
    JimTheFish @jimthefish
    Time Lord

    Welcome back @scaryb — you’ve been much missed….

    #40168
    janetteB @janetteb

    @scaryb Nice to hear from you. Real life is indeed a dark, evil place to be, here too.

    Cheers

    Janette

    #40205
    lisa @lisa

    Underwater Museum Mexico Photo by @leandrorodrigodelima by Earth Porn on Sunday, 17 May 2015

    very brave diver swimming into a weeping angels party!

    (hope this embed worked)

    #40206
    lisa @lisa

    Well that was awkward! sorry about that embarrassing previous post folks- it was a really cool photo 🙁

    #40208
    Anonymous @

    @lisa – fixed the link to EarthPorn’s facebook page.

    Yikes!

    #40209
    ichabod @ichabod

    I can’t find  link to it, but there’s an interview with Moffat in New York that ended with his comment (answering a question I can’t remember) elucidating, I think, previous remarks about how the companion is more the protagonist than the Doctor is in DW.  He said that the Doctor himself is always the same man — he doesn’t really change inside, only on the outside — but the companions change when they travel with him, and “his tragedy is that they all leave him, or he outlives them, and he’s left alone afterwards, just a boy in a box.  They never stay even if they love him, and the sad thing is, he always loves them more than they love him.”  More or less, though not an exact quote.

    ?? Well, we certainly saw that with S8 Clara since she was ready to settle down with Danny, although the Doctor has been coaxing her to head out with him in the Tardis through most of the series and she claims to be addicted to him and his weird life.  But my question is — *why* does he become so attached to his ephemeral Earth companions?  He *knows* how it’s going to end (11 actually says so, rather resentfully and self-pityingly, justifiably so).  He just can’t seem to get himself, oh, maybe a shark or a sea turtle to travel with, instead of some human butterfly with the attention span of a goldfish (comparatively) and a habit of dying or “wandering off” and, eventually, not coming back.  I mean, we are nifty and all, within our limits, but really, but are we his best option for long-term company?

    Or maybe he counts on us to take off before he gets bored with us, because long-term isn’t truly what he’s looking for?  This kind of touches on the question of enduring relationships among intelligent life forms that live very long lives . . . disposables in series is one solution, isn’t it?  Not a nice thought.

     

    There’s a wonderful novel, maybe 10-15 yrs old now, “The Vintner’s Luck” by Elizabeth Knox (of New Zealand, I think), about a fallen angel’s lifelong relationship with a French wine grower in the 19th c.  Yeah, I know; but she makes it work.

     

    In the end (I’m going to SPOIL it, for the sake of another sort of solution, so stop here if you care)  —

     

     

    In the end, the human dies and his soul goes to God in a state of the utmost perfection that it ever attained in life, young and spotless, as “pure” and perfect as we ever get to be; but the angel rejoices in having had, over years of visits to the vintner, the much rougher, tastier, slowly maturing “pressing” of the man’s soul spread out over most of his lived lifetime, a far richer soul “vintage” than mere raw, unblemished perfection.  Okay, I was going to tie that in somehow with the Doctor getting to sample a fleeting “vintage” from our short but rapidly changing lives, but I’m not sure it works.  Very good book, though, beautiful and moving.  Well, my own taste is for wabi sabi, the beat-up beauty of much-used things, and that doesn’t work for everyone, so no, the book never became a best seller . . .

     

    #40224
    lisa @lisa

    @fatmaninabox Thanks for fixing me!
    Congradts on your course completion! I know how much you love playing in the dirt
    and its a wonderful thing to be able to make your career from what you love doing.
    Good Luck with your next phase and let us know what and where that is!

    #40345
    lisa @lisa

    @everyone For all of us that wish to pretend to live in or have an extended visit in
    London we have now have this amazing ‘Whotube’ map to help navigate and test our
    Doctor Who trivia skills around town !!!

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-12-18/amazing-interactive-doctor-who-tube-map

    #40362
    Anonymous @

    @All

    Thank you to people who have sent private messages regarding my health situation. Thank you!

    Always onwards and upwards.

    @arbutus

    so glad you dipped your toe into the fan fiction reviewed by @denvaldron  -Benedetti is great. I liked how you said “she isn’t a female doctor she’s the Doctor” and that’s spot on. People speak about The Doctor and then a Female Doctor. I suppose it was the same years ago when my father would say, “I’ve an appointment with the lady doctor at the clinic.”

    This argument over a female doctor or female master has no traction with me. Perhaps 10 years ago it might have. I find it hard to read serious discussions regarding this concept as espoused by our friend @burrunjor. To me, the debate has been had. Still, for others it’s new & I get that.

    The fan films of Rupert Booth are also great- some are spotty for reasons not involving Booth himself. They’re pretty short and tight; you might want to give them a try.

    @jimthefish

    the mention of Firefly led Boy Ilion to suggest I take the mini DVD player to the hospital. When the nights are long and the telly is reduced to sales ads, one gets pretty desperate! So, I finished the opening two-parter, the next episode and even started the one after that -the lines are great. Jayne is a marvellous character: “[this is an auspicious occasion] Is it suspicious? Why? [later] What month is this?” and meanwhile Mal is approaching a fist fight with a bar brawler setting it up so his companion delivers the final blow. And I like that -she gets every bit as involved in shooting matches and brawling as the guys. Also, the use of ‘galactic language’ is interesting.

    It’s really a sci-fi Western? 🙂

    Kindest all, puro

    #40365
    JimTheFish @jimthefish
    Time Lord

    @purofilion — just so long as it’s entertaining for you not some kind of chore. The whole being well thing should be the focus right now. But glad you’re enjoying it. Yes, Zoe is a bad-ass and another one of my definite Whedonverse crushes — though you’d definitely be kind of daunted by here. You’ll notice that the whole Train Job episode was kind of a second pilot with Mal’s character lightened up considerably.

    But if you’re in watch-mode I’d recommend the making-of featurette on the final disc. It’s not spoilery so you can watch it any time and it really helps put the whole show in context. I watched it this afternoon and it once again brought a manly tear to the eye.

    The ‘galactic language’ the characters eventually slip into is Mandarin Chinese.

    #40366
    janetteB @janetteb

    @Purofilion Hope you will be be better soon. Taking the DVD player into hospital is a great idea.

    Cheers

    Janette

    #40376
    JimTheFish @jimthefish
    Time Lord

    Oh and just in case there are any non-Browncoats out there (does such a thing exist?) who would like to see said ‘Making of’, here it is. It’s well worth a watch.

    #40381
    Anonymous @

    @jimthefish

    Thankyou for that! Terrific.

    I have watched up to ‘Ariel’ which means the journey is nearly over. I’m enjoying a lot of it -I think I didn’t enjoy the train heist as much nor the selling of the cows to the bible belt planet with ‘witchy’ River (I’m terrible with ep names!). In fact, I’m finding River to be a little …well…I’m unsure of her. Simon seems to be the stronger character and that’s no doubt part of the brother/sister role and characterisation. Perhaps Glau doesn’t seem a visually clear or strong actress but I’ll have to think more about this -I’m probably quite wrong about it.

    I like the fact there are 9 characters -they really do have a particular visual quality and see the world -the universe- differently to each other. And the bonding? I can definitely see that. I’m watching Haven -there are maybe 3 main characters, 26 episodes and I have no attachment to them. They don’t particularly move me or even seem to like each other. We get lots of long, straight looks at the camera. Everything is one-note.

    But with Firefly there’s an unusual level of chemistry between the characters and the actors. All very charismatic people and it’s wonderful to see. Other than Fillion, though, I’m not sure I’ve seen many of these actors in other shows? But that could be my relationship with telly more than anything else.

    #40500
    fortheloveoftheatre @fortheloveoftheatre

    Hello… not sure if this is the right place, but I’m new and couldn’t find a way to post a new topic… so I figured I’d pop in here and say hello and I’m hoping some Doctor Who fans from across the Pond (I’m American) could maybe help clear a few things up…

    First, when The Doctor says he is ‘clever’ is that his way of saying he’s a genius? Like… is ‘clever’ and ‘genius’ interchangeable?

    The other thing that I’m wondering about is the whole thing with Rose and the Powell Estate… the way Rose talks about ‘Living on the Estate’ it makes it seem like she’s living in the slums/ghetto/barrio. What exactly is an ‘Estate’ in reference to Rose’s living situation? To look at it on the show, it just seemed like apartments (flats)… What would be an American equivalent to ‘Living on the Estate’?

    Thanks,
    Beth

    #40501

    @fortheloveoftheatre

     when The Doctor says he is ‘clever’ is that his way of saying he’s a genius? Like… is ‘clever’ and ‘genius’ interchangeable?

    It would be fair to say that the Doctor doesn’t do modesty, but is a bit prone to understatement. He essentially means “cleverer than you”. A bit hubristic, you might think…

    the way Rose talks about ‘Living on the Estate’ it makes it seem like she’s living in the slums/ghetto/barrio

    Think “project” or “Jenni from the block” rather than slum. A working class area, originally built by the local council, but possibly sold as a private residence since. The full term is “council estate”. They vary greatly, from “block/ tower” living to large expanses of semi-detached (duplex in US parlance, I think). Tower style is typically associated with poorer inner city areas today. Roses’s is of the block style. A lot of implications are there in terms of “class”, both in terms of economic class and the presence or absence of taste, which might explain why Rose was so happy to buy a ticket on the Tardis.

    #40502
    fortheloveoftheatre @fortheloveoftheatre

    @IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan
    Thank-you, That does help… I figured it was something like that, but I wasn’t sure… It didn’t look like a bad place to live, but it seemed like maybe it was similar to what we call ‘Section 8’ housing which basically means you’re poor enough that you need the government’s help to pay your rent. You apply for ‘Section 8’ housing and there are pre-approved apartments that take ‘Section 8’ housing agreements. Say the rent is normally $600, and based on your income you can only afford $200, then the government pays the landlord $400 while you pay $200. So the landlord is still getting $600 in rent, but not all of it is coming out of your personal income.

    But then there was that scene in the parallel universe where Rose and The Doctor were talking about Mickey’s dad running off and his grandma raising him and how rough it was ‘growing up on the estate’, it sounded like they lived in gang territory (like certain parts of Los Angeles/Compton) but I didn’t think there were gangs like that in the UK (don’t know why I thought that, but when I think of gangbangers I only picture Americans like 14-30 yrs old)….

    To be honest, it kinda makes laugh trying to picture a gangbanger talking with a British accent and talking ‘gansta’… It’s like when Nigel Lythgoe, on the American show ‘So You Think You Can Dance’ tries to use hip-hop slang… it just doesn’t sound right… and I seem to have gone off on a tangent… (I’ve got a brain sort of similar to The Doctor’s in that my thoughts go about a million miles a minute… except I’m easily distracted by shiny things…)

    #40504
    ScaryB @scaryb

    Belated hi back to @jimthefish (and thanks for the making of Firefly video post) and @janetteb (and sympathies, the earth is indeed equally benighted where you are). Proper congrats to @fatmaninabox – you clever boy you! Have a whole Medusa cascade of gold stars 😉

    @Purofilion – hope you’re well on the mend now, even if it cuts into your DVD viewing time

     

    #40506
    JimTheFish @jimthefish
    Time Lord

    @scaryb — welcome back!! Been wondering where you’ve been at.

    #40507
    Bluesqueakpip @bluesqueakpip

    @fortheloveoftheatre

    But then there was that scene in the parallel universe where Rose and The Doctor were talking about Mickey’s dad running off and his grandma raising him and how rough it was ‘growing up on the estate’, it sounded like they lived in gang territory

    Not as rough as US gang territory, but it’s not a big stretch to imagine the Powell Estate as pretty rough by UK standards. There certainly seems to be a lot of graffiti (even if most of it is obviously lovingly created by the art department).

    Most people on the estate will be working people (Rose worked in a department store, Mickey was a car mechanic). Most kids will be in school, most kids will go on to a job or further education.

    There will, however, be a minority taking and dealing drugs and it may well be that Rose and Mickey know people from school who went into a drugs gang or became addicted. That would have been an ever present ‘opportunity’ for them, as well.

    There will, very probably, be about one murder per year. Again, it’s quite likely that Rose and Mickey will either know the victim, or know someone who knows them – or the place where it happened is somewhere they walk past most days.

    So the ‘rough’ Rose talks about is that, growing up, she and Mickey would have been frequently faced with a series of harsh decisions and harsh events. Do you take drugs or not? Do you deal drugs or not? What do we wear to the funeral of our classmate, who got stabbed because he tried to stop a fight?

    But it’s not Compton. 😉

    #40509
    lisa @lisa

    Hi Everyone saw this
    http://www.blastr.com/2014-8-8/straczynski-bringing-sci-fi-classic-babylon-5-back-life-movie-reboot-2016

    for any and all of the Babylon 5 fans – I also enjoyed that series

    #40512
    janetteB @janetteb

    @scaryb Waves. Nice to hear from our favourite Yeti. Hope life is treating you well.

    @lisa. Good news or at least, good rumour. I hope this time it does get off the ground.

    cheers

    Janette

    #40515

    @fortheloveoftheatre

    To be honest, it kinda makes laugh trying to picture a gangbanger talking with a British accent and talking ‘gansta’

    You realise Stringer Bell was played by a Brit, right? 😉

    For an insight in the UK gang culture (with emphasis on the culture rather than the fact) then The Krays and Long Good Friday are decent primers, maybe Mona Lisa (Bob Hoskins pops up a lot!). Also Sexy Beast and for a ..er… high concept treatment Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. And if you are a fan of classic cinema, the Brighton Rock.

    Films dealing with black British gang culture are fewer and further between. In fact, can’t think of one. Anybody?

    #40516
    Anonymous @

    @pedant @fortheloveoftheatre

    Films dealing with black British gang culture are fewer and further between. In fact, can’t think of one. Anybody?

    There’s a movie called 1day (not to be confused with the romantic film One Day) which is a musical* drama about 2 gangs in Birmingham. Although I haven’t seen it (and I’m unlikely to, gang related movies aren’t my ‘thing’) I’ve heard some good comments about it.

    http://www.1daythemovie.co.uk/

    *take any thoughts you have of it being an updated Brit version of West Side Story and throw them out the window 😉

    #40517
    Anonymous @

    @scaryb – thank you 🙂 =scatters rose petals over the sofa=

    #40518
    PhaseShift @phaseshift
    Time Lord

    @fortheloveoftheatre

    In the context of what @bluesqueakpip and @pedant have been discussing, I’d probably recommend a low budget sci-fi horror comedy called Attack the Block. The “Block” is a South London Estate that sees itself as the centre of an alien incursion. It’s defended by a proto-gang led by Moses (John Boyega). It’s pretty entertaining in its own right, with a focus on the odd (to my ears) patois that’s emerged in the “yoof” in the area. One of the story strands is that Moses has come to the attention of an actual gang leader and is being recruited to sell drugs in the neighbourhood.

    Its got a couple of Doctor Who connections (with one of them being in Last Christmas). The kids were local to the area filmed in and didn’t have any history of acting. Boyega obviously stood out, as he’s gone onto other things and has been cast in the next episode of a small franchise called Star Wars.

    #40542
    SpaceAgeClockwork @spaceageclockwork

    Hello! I’m new. Okay if I plonk myself on your sofa? 🙂

    I’m new to this site, but not new to Doctor Who! I grew up watching repeats of Jon Pertwee driving extremely erratically in Bessie… Now, as a sort of grown up, I am eagerly awaiting series 9. I thought it was about time I joined in with other people who love Who as much as I do (since all my other friends think I am mad).

    #40543
    PhaseShift @phaseshift
    Time Lord

    @spaceageclockwork

    (since all my other friends think I am mad).

    Ah well, as the Seventh and Eleventh both said:

    “Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.”

    Welcome to the site. You don’t have to be mad to post here, but it can certainly make you more interesting!

    #40559
    ScaryB @scaryb

    Yay!

    *rolls around in rose petals” (thanks @fatmaninabox ) Wheeee!!

    Just came across this, and it fair made me chuckle. Dunno if it has any smidgeon of truth in it, but it’s very funny anyway!

    Why you should never, ever drunk text a Doctor Who fan!!

    http://www.tickld.com/x/why-you-should-never-drunk-text-a-doctor-who-fa

    #40560
    Nick @nick

    @pedant

    would Kidulthood come close to an  answer to your question ? (not exactly gang related, but fringe of  ?).

    This list also has some different choices:

    http://www.imdb.com/list/ls057689552/

    Attack the block is one of the few I have actually seen.

     

    #40563
    Arbutus @arbutus

    @scaryb     OMG. Thanks for that. I didn’t just chuckle, I laughed until the tears poured down my face. I kept wondering if the drunk texter was pranking the pranker. And wondering what they thought when they looked at their phone the next day!  🙂

    #40576
    Anonymous @

    @thesilencehasfallen

    I’m not sure if the Doctor is deliberately getting older? In other words, that Hartnell was an older man (55) & Capaldi, 56

    Could be. But I think it was ‘time’ for an older doctor -after Tennant and Smith. Also, for Moffat, it was probably ‘who would be best suited to move Doctor Who on?’ There would have been several candidates, and Capaldi fitted the bill.

    Kindest, purofilion

    #40593
    Miapatrick @miapatrick

    @PhaseShift- yes, I saw that a while ago on lovefilm, we put it on mostly on account of Nick Frost.

    There was a disturbing/interesting moment involving Moses, I think, and his bedroom that was actually quite understated. We watched it in a scraping the bottom of the barrel of the available film collection kind of mood, but it was actually quite good.

    #40594
    Miapatrick @miapatrick

    @thesilencehasfallen, @purofilion I do think the age of the doctor works nicely with the new cycle of regenerations, and also fits something he said once about when he was young he appeared as grumpy older men, like you do when you’re young… though that was mostly comic and flippant I think, and also not entirely true unless Susan was a lot older than him.

    I think also they, or at least Moffart, had just wanted Capalidi for a long time. And they really couldn’t go young again, though he would probably have cast Capalidi from his twenties upwards. I doubt they will try and mirror the whole series of regenerations. But I think the age works nicely.

    #40595
    Bluesqueakpip @bluesqueakpip

    @miapatrick

    And they really couldn’t go young again

    One of my favourite lines in Day of the Doctor:

    War Doctor: Am I having a mid-life crisis?!

    They did have to change the casting direction, given that Tennant was younger than Eccleston, and Smith was younger than Tennant. It was heading inexorably towards a regeneration into a child actor. 😈

    #40600
    Anonymous @

    @miapatrick

    (hey, welcome back: haven’t seen you around in a while!)

    @bluesqueakpip “given that Tennant was younger than Eccleston, and Smith was younger than Tennant. It was heading inexorably towards a regeneration into a child actor.”

    :twisted:

    Oh, Absolutely.  /:-}

     

    #40603
    Miapatrick @miapatrick

    @purofilion- thank you! yes, moving, plus OU module, plus living ten minutes from a beach plus ‘I know, lets get people in to sort the kitchen in the last few weeks before your exam’ (! thanks, dear)  hasn’t left much time. Got four months till next module, don’t know what I’m going to do with it…

    @bluesqueakpip: I think it made a nice bold statement, making him so very old, it helped create a very different dynamic with Clara. Of course, Hurt’s old Doctor and Capaldi’s old doctor are as different in their old-young dynamics as Tennant and Smith. (If not more so, but then, I’m not a huge Tennant fan, in comparison to the others.)

    #40639
    immblueversion @immblueversion

    Well, it’s official: the Doctor is now a talking horse. And so is the Dude.

    …I am so sorry…

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