On The Sofa (9)

[Craig @craig Emperor]

As happens occasionally our sofa gets a bit too full and we have to move to a new sofa. This is a place to congregate, somewhere to “hang out”. It’s a topic for general chat about anything you want, and a place for new members to pop in and say “hello” without worrying about making any real contribution (we know that your first post can sometimes feel daunting). We’d love to hear from you all. We’re very friendly.

Conversations on the previous ‘sofa’ can be found here.

[Craig @craig Emperor]

@wolfweed Many thanks for the link, saves me some work – will get it up later today – probably around the traditional 6pm slot. Now I just have to decide what to do with the Home page.

[wolfweed @wolfweed]

There always sees to be something new to find about Dr Who. Just stumbled across this:

(I dedicate this video to @janetteb who Lalla is cosplaying in it…)

[Missy @missy]

I was thinking. Having recently seen Prime Suspect 3, with Peter Capaldi as  the  transvestite Vera Reynolds, they could have asked PC to come back as the Doctor in drag – well, it’d be different.

 

 

Missy

[janetteB @janetteb]

@wolfweed She does a rather good job of cosplaying me 🙂 I think I need to work on the posh accent though. (Or it is Lalla who needs to work on the south Australian accent?)
Cheers
Janette

[wolfweed @wolfweed]

Milky.

Milk – Doctor Who Series 10 Breakdown

[Retr0Guy @retr0guy]

Greetings Whovians! At the risk of irritating and being ignored by people, I am conducting research on opinions on the new Doctor for a writing class. It’d be really awesome if you could take 5-10 minutes to fill it out and perhaps share with others. If you don’t… well that’s fine, I guess, you’re your own person, not much I can do…. :/

Thanks – as you were!

Doctor Who: A Woman as the New Doctor

[janetteB @janetteb]

@wolfweed. Thanks for that link. Really love seeing the effects and concept art. R.2. (second son) is currently studying digital arts so must flick it over to him.
cheers
Janette

[Craig @craig Emperor]

It’s National Poetry Day today in the UK, and they’ve just released a book of Doctor Who poems. To celebrate, the official fan show had writer James Goss and illustrator Russell T Davies (yes, he can draw too) on to have a bit of fun. Thought you’d like this.

[thewho @ryansimon]

nice info from the link

[Anonymous @]

At long last, I’ve met someone from Doctor Who. On Saturday we met Jenna Coleman and saw her panel at Oz Comicon.  She’s lovely.

Next on my bucket list – meeting a Doctor!

I bet there are a lot of interesting stories about meets from the members here.

 

[winston @winston]

@conchobarre That sounds reallty great! I hope you get to meet a Doctor soon. Although the chance of seeing one of my Who favourites sounds good to me ,the crowds at the venues and the long trip to Toronto always hold me back.Too old to be stressed out I suppose. But I always love to hear about them.

[Missy @missy]

@conchobarre: Wonderful, but which Doctor?

Missy

[Anonymous @]

@missy any of them. All of them. Ha!  Honestly – I adore DT and PC a little more than MS. But my kids differ. Doctors don’t seem to visit Australia too often though. I don’t think DT has ever been in Australia!

@winston I envy you living in Canada. I think I would love it there. I bet you live somewhere beautiful.

 

[Missy @missy]

@conchobarre:

Everyone knows my choice. *smiles*

Missy

[Anonymous @]

Yes @missy. I totally get you. Capaldi is all awesomeness in my books and I’m really really sad to see him go (but excited about the new Doctor of course).

[Missy @missy]

@conchobarre:

Unlike you, I do not feel excited about  female Doctor, especially the one they have chosen.

Missy

 

[Craig @craig Emperor]

I thought some of you might be interested in buying this calendar to get you through next year.

Retro Visions Calendar 2018

[wolfweed @wolfweed]

CSO (Colour Separation Overlay) otherwise known as Chroma Key…

[Jargon @jargon]

I’m thinking of writing two short story fan fictions about the doctor. A wholock story, of course, and one where thirteen meets jenny again, the timelord clone from “The Doctor’s Daughter”. Thoughts?

[Bluesqueakpip @bluesqueakpip]

@wolfweed

Presumably that picture was taken before the Cyberman’s arm fell off?

😉

[Missy @missy]

@jargon:  Why not.  At least I liked jenny.

Missy

[winston @winston]

@conchobarre Sorry I took so long to answer but yes Canada is a very beautiful place to live and I am grateful to be here. I live in Ontario surrounded by farms and forests and lakes and right now the leaves on the trees are changing from green to red, yellow and orange and the veggie garden is finishing for the year. Because……WINTER IS COMING!. Then it is cold,wet and snowy and sparkly and white and did I mention cold? Sometimes really cold.
All of canada is beautiful from coast to coast in very different ways and I hope you can visit us someday.
@missy At least we have Christmas to say goodbye to Peter Capaldi. I will miss the 12th Doctor.

[blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave]

Well, one minute I am looking forward to The Keys of Marinus and the next…well, sometimes life gets in the road. But for now, off to the spoilers page!

[Craig @craig Emperor]

@blenkinsopthebrave Good to have you back. As you say, after your excitement for a Hartnell retrospective I was kinda worried when we hadn’t seen you for 5 weeks. Hope all is well. The good news is that you’re back just in time for the finale next week!

[blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave]

Thanks @craig

Crikey, a six episode binge! I’ll do my best.

 

[Missy @missy]

I really must watch the other five. As @blenkinsopthebrave says, real life gets in the way.

Missy

[Anonymous @]

@jargon Did you start your stories? Send us the link  when you’ve finished

[Anonymous @]

I’m wondering who here has heard of the Breakthrough Challenge? I wasn’t aware of it until today. It’s a contest where people try to explain a complex and difficult scientific concept with an engaging short film (3 mins max).

Anyway, full disclosure – this one was submitted in the junior section by my niece’s friend and I’m so impressed. I give him full marks for using Doctor Who scenery and the TARDIS.

Jesse, 17, Australia, Australia/New Zealand Region: 2017 Break…

Jesse, 17, Australia, Australia/New Zealand Region: This video has made the Popular Vote of the Breakthrough Junior Challenge! If you think it should go straight to the final round then Like it, Share it or give it another positive reaction (Love, Haha, Wow) before the November 2nd deadline. The Popular Vote will also result in 8 Regional Champions being named. Make sure you check out all of the videos in the Popular Vote at https://www.facebook.com/pg/BreakthroughPrize/videos, and learn more at https://breakthroughjuniorchallenge.org/popular-vote.

Публикувахте от Breakthrough в 23 октомври 2017 г.

 

[Missy @missy]

@conchobarre:

Ta muchly .

I wonder if Murray Gold will still be writing the musical score, and will Ben Foster conduct?

Missy

[winston @winston]

I must tell you about a conversation I had with my husband the other day that quickly got very funny without trying. Firstly my Doctor Who obession is not shared by him ,although 2 of my grown up kids watch it (One does not but we won’t speak of him) Anyway he knows all about the show and the Doctors or as much as he wants to know and probably more….. because I tell him.
So the other day I called my Doctor to make an appointment and after getting off the phone I say “the Doctor is on holiday for a month so there is a fill-in Doctor there.” He asks “a new Doctor?” I answer “yes and I don’t like new Doctors” He says “Oh, you never do!” Still, not really catching on I say ” The receptionist insists that she is a really nice and funny Doctor and that I will like her” “So ” he says ” we are getting a new Doctor and she is a women. Is that life immitating art or something?”
Now finally I get it and I start to giggle and I have been chuckling about it ever since. He must actually be listening to me now and then.
I just thought I would share a funny moment.

[janetteB @janetteb]

@winston thanks for sharing. Brought a smile to my face too.
Cheers
Janette

[Missy @missy]

@winston;

Love it. Thank you. *thumbs up*

Missy

[wolfweed @wolfweed]

Crazy Captions 96 blog ready for you to caption crazily…

[wolfweed @wolfweed]

Part 1 of a very interesting Rachel Talalay interview – kicks in at 40 minutes…

radio-free-skaro-608-as-the-world-falls-down podcast

[DIrishB @dirishb]

Brand new Doctor Who fan here. Had been recommended for years by friends, and I finally decided to give it a try.

I never do things half-assed, so I’m starting from the VERY beginning, William Hartnell’s First Doctor (including the reconstructions of lost episodes). So far, I’m enjoying it, even with the low production budgets and limited special effects of the time, which gives it a sort of Star Trek (Original Series) kind of charm, but thoroughly its own thing.

Finished Keys of Marinus last night and will be jumping into The Aztecs tonight.

I expect this viewing project to take awhile (maybe years) slowly making my way through the 26 original seasons and the 10 seasons of the revival show, not to mention its various specials and minisodes.

Does anyone know of a good episode chronology for the revival show, which incorporates placements for all the specials and mini episodes/webisodes, as well as Torchwood, Sarah Jane Adventures, and Class? Also, is the 2009-2010 K-9 show considered Doctor Who canon or not (I know the 1981 pilot episode is)?

I’m attempting to build a chronological viewing order/simplified timeline, using relative time of the main characters without the time travel stuff affecting order/placement of the episodes, just wanted some info on the newer stuff’s chronological order since there are so many specials and minisodes to account for, plus the spin-offs. I’ve found numerous such guides online but few or none include EVERYTHING, many are missing minisode entries or the spin-off shows. I’m just looking for a complete Whoniverse episode chronology. Any help on that front would be greatly appreciated as I slowly wade through the early adventures. Thanks in advance!

[DIrishB @dirishb]

Anyway, I’ve been doing loads of research prepping my chronological viewing order for the show and it’s spin offs.

Its complete for the time being, with all episodes and specials and minisodes and spin off episodes listed (Torchwood, Sarah Jane Adventures, Class, K-9), and I think it’s in correct chronological order based on research and suggestions from fellow Whovians on other DW forums (such as corrections for the old show and new, specifically reordering some of the original show’s Season 25 and 26 episodes).

Let me know what you think, if you think anything needs fixing or adjusting.

[url]http://thetimelinesite.com/timelines/49-doctor-who-timeline[/url]

^Thats my site, featuring various detailed timelines of numerous fictional universes, covering Star Wars, Marvel Cinematic Universe, Firefly/Serenity, Hellboy comics, Star Trek, The X-Files, Smallville, StarCraft, Stranger Things, Elder Scrolls, and numerous other geek culture timelines. And it’s newest member is the Doctor Who viewing order/simplified timeline.

Stop in and let me know what I got wrong, or offer any corrections/suggestions here. 🙂

[wolfweed @wolfweed]

@dirishb

Steven Moffat has said before that there is no such thing as canon – It’s ALL canon! However, I’ve heard others speak of what is supposedly official canon & apparently it includes The Adventure Games

…..

This youtube playlist link may prove useful:  Dr Who in character

You might also want to consider Tom Baker Seaside Special 1976  & Animal Magic – Tom Baker  Destiny of the Doctors  The Infinite Quest, Dreamland, possibly even An Adventure in Space & Time…

There are a few other obscure in-character TV appearances (Mostly from Blue Peter)…

Deleted scenes are also worth a watch…

I would also watch Friend from the Future (Starting from the exact point it kicks in in The Pilot)…

Enjoy your epic viewing – It may take quite some time!

 

[DIrishB @dirishb]

I know there is no official declaration by the BBC and showrunners as to what is canon, but I like to think only the stuff produced by BBC is canon. I know many consider the audioplays, comics, novels, etc as canon, though I know there are also instances of conflicts regarding continuity in certain cases (though those can probably be explained as alternate timelines).
That said, at this point I’m just focusing on the TV related officially produced BBC stuff. I know DW canon is up to the viewer, but I’d also read that the BBC doesn’t necessarily consider the spin off material (novels, comics, audioplays) as canon due to not wanting to force fans to buy that supplemental material to get “the whole story”. If that remains true or not, I can’t say.

[Bluesqueakpip @bluesqueakpip]

@dirishb

There’s a perfectly good argument that only TV is ‘canon’, but even TV has alternate explanations for the same events.

The Webisode ‘Night of the Doctor’ is canon, but references the Audio Companions for the McGann Doctor – so those Companions are also canon. You’ll have to figure out which of the McGann Doctor’s Audio Adventures happened in the same time line as Night of the Doctor, and which happened in alternate time lines, but the BBC has agreed that he definitely met those Companions.

Personally I long ago divided things into ‘events’ and ‘stories’. In the TV episodes we, the audience, see events in the Doctors’ lives. Time may have been rewritten since 🙂 but in the world of the Doctor, they happened. The Audios are also ‘events’, but some are events that happened in alternate time lines.

The novels and comics (and other ancillary media) are ‘stories’. They might be retellings of genuine events, or they might be stories about the Doctor. If they’re stories, they may have happened – but to a different Doctor, in a different way.

[DIrishB @dirishb]

@bluesqueakpip

 

Yeah. The way I look at the companions from the audioplays of the Eighth Doctor mentioned in Night of the Doctor is that, yes, the Doctor did indeed travel with those companions on various adventures, but not necessarily what happened in the audio plays. The companions have been made canon in terms of TV, but not necessarily the adventures they had detailed in those audioplays. It’s sort of how the rebooted Star Wars canon has done away with the Extended Universe canon of the old spin off comics and novels, but yet the new canon slowly is reintroducing aspects of that old canon (like Grand Admiral Thrawn), and while much is the same, a lot is different in terms of events surrounding them in the new timeline. So, yes, the Eighth Doctor definitely traveled with those companions canonically speaking, but that doesn’t necessarily make the audioplays with those companions canon, if that makes sense.

There are a number of continuity issues with the novels (between themselves and even in regards to the TV show), as sort of shown here:

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/1963

”In late March, the TARDIS materialised in the junkyard at 76 Totter’s Lane, owned by I.M. Foreman, in the Shoreditch area of London, disguised incongruously as a police box. While the First Doctor attempted repairs and worked out a plan for safely disposing of the Hand of Omega on Earth, his granddaughter Susan Foreman registered at the nearby Coal Hill School against his wishes. Britain, meanwhile, was in the grip of an unusual cold wave. (PROSE: Time and Relative) However, another account had Susan say they came to London in June, four months before October, and that Susan’s first term at Coal Hill was the autumn term in 1963. (AUDIO: Hunters of Earth)”

 

“According to one account, Susan said she had been at Coal Hill since the start of the autumn term. (AUDIO: Hunters of Earth) Another account stated she enrolled in late March. (PROSE: Time and Relative)”

 

Obviously those are pretty minor differences and can be explained as being due to hijinks in the timeline, or acknowledged as just being mistakes made by the authors or scriptwriters.

However, we also have to acknowledge that the events in the Doctor Who timeline have been retconned before, too.

 

Really helpful continuity/timeline details from tbe members, huge thanks! Let’s keep it going!

 

 

[Missy @missy]

I recently found, by accident, The BAFTA Scotland Awards.

Armando Ianannucci was presented with an award by Peter Capaldi, who had made very funny speech beforehand.

Armando went on to be very funny too. Well worth a watch …if you don’t mind a bit of swearing! *laughs*

Missy

[RorySmith @rorysmith]

So after seeing the bad reviews of Valarian, I waited for the rental.

This movie is pretty good.  It would isolate anyone not familiar with the complex genre that this is baded on. We whovians though would connect quickly.

[Missy @missy]

@rorysmith;

Thank you, I’ve not heard of this film, I shall look it up.

Missy

[blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave]

Just dropping in to say hi. Cannot promise an immediate return. Life has been getting in the road a little more than I would like (and threatens to do so in the future) but I thought I would take this opportunity to say hello to everyone.

I recently came across this clip of all the opening sequences (and theme music) from 1963 to the present. I thought it was interesting that even when it came to the imagery and music of the opening credits, that the John Nathan Turner years were the worst!

 

[janetteB @janetteb]

@blenkinsopthebrave I hope life is not being too unkind to you.

Thank you for sharing the clip. Really enjoyed it. Will inflict that one on the rest of the family later tonight. Interesting how the opening credits reflect the trajectory of the show, classic, dire, exciting, the “dire” being the JNT years. The most recent is definitely my favourite in terms of visuals.

Cheers
Janette

[Bluesqueakpip @bluesqueakpip]

@blenkinsopthebrave

I really enjoyed that clip. Gawd, yes, the JNT ‘disco Who’ theme. And that bloody wink, which I believe even McCoy himself disliked.

Hope life gets better for you.

[Missy @missy]

@blenkinsopthebrave:

Thank you for this, loved to see all the the different introductions. I hope all goes well with you.

@janetteb:

Yes, my feelings exactly.

Missy

 

 

[Craig @craig Emperor]

For those of you in the UK there’s a very nice Christmas treat on BBC’s iPlayer.

For the next month you can watch every regeneration story, from the eighth Doctor becoming the War Doctor – the short “The Night of the Doctor” – right through to Eleven’s regeneration into Twelve.

I’m excited that it includes the 50th special, “Day of the Doctor”, so that you can also go from War Doctor to Nine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/group/p05q2dsp

[Hiker @hiker]

Does anyone have a list of Titan comics that covers the 12 x Clara stories?

I have been researching some, but I’m getting turned around with the numbering convention.

Whats the best way to buy these?

Thanks!

Hiker

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