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22 May 2013 at 23:15 #1043122 May 2013 at 23:13 #10429
@scaryb Surely he can do “I don’t want to go” just one more time! Just for us? π
And if there are 2 Doctors can there be 2 TRADISs, one to die at Trenzalore, the other to continue on her voyage with the newly annointed 12th Doctor?
22 May 2013 at 23:00 #10424DORIUM: “On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature may speak falsely or fail to give answer, a question will be asked. A question that must never, ever be answered.”
THE DOCTOR: “Silence will fall when the question is asked…”
DORIUM: “”Silence must fall” would be a better translation. The Silence are determined that the question must never be answered. The Doctor must never reach Trenzalore.”
When I saw the episode my first thought was that this had nothing to do with it, as it was not at the fall of the Eleventh, it was set after it. I think it may have been @bluesqueakpip (sorry if I’m wrong) that said “at the fall of the Eleventh” could be a location i.e. the now massive TARDIS, but I don’t think that’s correct as it is followed up by “when…” which seems to point to a time of a fall.
I know Moffat popped in a bit of slight-of-hand with his “We don’t jump, we fall” gag, but it seems to me to be mis-direction.
I think there must be a return to Trenzalore and a real fall of the Eleventh.
Just throwing this out there. If the Hurt Doctor is between 2 and 3, or between 8 and 9, etc. but does not currently have a number, and if the events of part 2 bring him back into the fold, see him forgiven, then it could be Tennant’s Doctor who meets his end on Trenzalore, meaning Smith can carry on. Timey wimey etc…
22 May 2013 at 21:37 #10403@scaryb I’ve replied to Mini-HTPBDET(S), thanking him for the update. I ended it by saying “Please send him all our best wishes, tell him we are all glad he is writing again, and that we are all waiting for his opinion on The Name of the Doctor!”
22 May 2013 at 18:55 #10385@htpbdet ‘s new blog post is now up:
http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/the-doctors/troughton-the-paternal-magician/
22 May 2013 at 18:25 #10376@ Everyone. As you may know @htpbdet had to, in his words, “go into a bit of confinement” on Saturday. Well his nephew got in touch with me to tell me that he is still in confinement, so still hasn’t seen Saturday’s episode, but is back writing again, which sounds like good news to me.
He has written a lengthy piece (did you expect anything else π ) on Troughton which I will post in the blog shortly. His nephew said he apologises for the length, and also said “Uncle is writing a lot of things to keep himself busy” so we may see more from him shortly.
He signed of with a thank you, directed to us all, “for making my Uncle happy”, and called himself Mini-HTPBDET(S) “Uncle said that last bit might make you laugh”.
21 May 2013 at 22:46 #10287@pedant Cheers. WP-SuperCache is one of the things I’ve added. I just need to check the load now for the next few days, make sure it’s working well enough, then tweak the settings till it’s how I need it to be.
And @Shazzbot (as well as IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan) I hadn’t used the search but you’re right, it’s pants! Another thing I will add to my list, although I know a few good search plugins so shouldn’t be too difficult to fix.
21 May 2013 at 22:37 #10282If he doesn’t want to regenerate it may because he knows one day he turns into the Hurt Doctor. And considering the Valeyard is another option, he’s got two reasons to hang onto this body (unless Hurt is the Valeyard of course – The Doctor, but not called The Doctor).
21 May 2013 at 22:31 #10278@Shazzbot Cheers. Just checked and the lines were:
I could regenerate now. Big blast of regeneration energy… burn out any little cyber widgets in my brain, along with everything you’re connected to. Don’t want to. Use this me up, who knows what we’ll get next? But I can!
21 May 2013 at 22:23 #10275Thanks @scaryb and @juniperfish
I didn’t get too spoilered. I saw pictures of Clara with other Doctors, but seeing as that all happened at the start of the episode it wasn’t too bad. And like others I saw the “John Hurt as a possible Doctor” headline in the Radio Times, but that was about it.
I’m glad how it went last week as well. From the sounds of things it wasn’t too bad out there in the end, but everyone here was great and in a way it was quite fun battening down the hatches.
21 May 2013 at 22:02 #10267@bluesqueakpip I think there was a line in NiS along the lines of “I could regenerate now, but God knows what I’d become (or you’d get)”. I thought that as well.
@juniperfish Just to go back to red and blue. I know you must be really bored of it by now but I just need to revisit π
When the GI jumped in to The Doctor’s time stream, it seemed that the room was then bathed in red (by the time stream) and it was only when Clara jumped in that it reverted back to a more white/blue. So maybe red isn’t the uncorrupted? Or was it just red is death. Just a thought?
21 May 2013 at 21:57 #10265@juniperfish Yes, I think the word is definitely getting out there π
I think all is fine for now, and should be a bit calmer for a while at least. Am kinda enjoying it anyway, learning new things etc., although would be nice just to get back to some theorising. Maybe tomorrow!
21 May 2013 at 19:51 #10233@timeloop I don’t want to put anyone off posting because, as @scaryb said, they feel like they’re in a goldfish bowl, but if you want the figures, on the 3 days Saturday to Monday we had 6,300 visits from 3,900 unique visitors, and they viewed a total of 28,500 pages.
It’s not massive in big site terms, but still a lot more than I would have expected for our little site.
The CPU usage on the server was 215% more than I’m supposed to be allowed. Oops. But I told them it is probably a blip, it being the final episode of the season. I’ve also put some measures in place to reduce CPU usage in future. I hope. π
21 May 2013 at 19:28 #10230@pedant List problem now fixed, as you can see above. Please list away π
I’m still looking into caching while writing, but I had real issues with server CPU usage on Sunday and Monday due to the amount of traffic, so have been busy putting things in place to ensure I don’t have to move to yet another server in the near future!
@blenkinsopthebrave I don’t have an iPad but will grab one from our IT dept and see if I can replicate the issue. Cheers.
19 May 2013 at 17:45 #9849Thanks @ardaraith They have now been exterminated π
19 May 2013 at 12:19 #9769@chickenelly I just have to say that you definitely win the prize for best avatar this season*. Fantastic job.
* There is no real prize, just the admiration of us all π
19 May 2013 at 08:53 #9724@pedant I don’t think there is, but I’ll look into it. I would suggest writing any long posts offline though, just in case.
The bullets should be an easier fix – will try to fix that today.
19 May 2013 at 08:45 #9723@bluesqueakpip (and @phaseshift )
You are now an author. To post a blog, just hover over the “+New” in the top bar and click “Post”. You will then get a screen where you enter the title, below that you enter your main text, and click “Publish” when your done. If you want, you can give it a category (on the right again), or I can do that for you afterwards.
18 May 2013 at 20:27 #9595@bluesqueakpip @morbius I was thinking this week about Eleven’s first episode – “Prisoner Zero has escaped”.
Moffat’s huge arc plan? Hurt as Zero? Perhaps?
18 May 2013 at 20:11 #9581I thought it was great, and like @phaseshift I also shed a tear or two. Doctor Who does that to me. π
It did feel like part 1 of a two-parter though. Is kinda annoying, but Moffat knows his audience. There will be bonkers theories galore now over the next 6 months.
But the big tease for the 50th seems to be what happened during the Time War, although I may have to watch again. Am just about to..
18 May 2013 at 12:09 #9520I am closing this topic so conversation can focus on the final episode of Series 33 (or 7). It may be re-opened or may be replaced by a new thread.
17 May 2013 at 22:51 #9499Oh, and one more thing. Let’s all send @htpbdet some good vibes. I’m not a big believer in anything spiritual, but you never know. If we can believe the Doctor can be remembered out of nowhere, we can certainly will one of our valued contributors back by this time next week.
17 May 2013 at 22:37 #9495@phaseshift @jimthefish @scaryb @Shazzbot
When I started this, it was a response to a slightly frantic plea for someone to start something, anything! I didn’t really want to.
On the eve of the final episode of this series I am so glad I did because it has become, so far, the sort of forum I always wanted to be a part of, populated by proper fans, and many with an encyclopedic knowledge of Doctor Who.
I’m going out now, but will be back tomorrow in time for the finale.
Thank You, to all of you.
17 May 2013 at 21:36 #9485@phaseshift I’m drawn back to Truculent’s comment on The Guardian a week or two ago that on here everyone agrees with everyone else.
It made me laugh for two reasons.
1. He is wrong, we disagree at times, we just don’t abuse each other like everywhere else on the internet.
2. And this is the main reason I laughed (with joy), he’s visited and read the posts, is familiar with the sort of conversation that goes on here, and decided it’s not a place for him.
For those reasons I think we’ve done a great job.
17 May 2013 at 21:20 #9484@scaryb I hadn’t realised Fulcanelli had left. I did see him popping in and out during this week so he didn’t leave right after your minor altercation, if that makes you feel better. He must have just left yesterday or maybe the day before.
I wouldn’t feel bad. For example, @craignixon posted that he’d read a synopsis of the final episode but promised he wouldn’t say anything. I cautioned him that doing a Fulcanelli and saying no, your theory is wrong, is just as bad as a spoiler. He said he wouldn’t and he has been as good as his word. Thanks CraigNixon, you have been a gent! π
Fulcanelli may be a lovely person, but if he can’t hold his tongue then actually I’m quite happy he is gone. After all, he’d posted spoilers in the wrong place before. That may sound a bit brutal, but I’d love everyone here to respect everyone else. I know things about tomorrow’s episode because I have been on spoiler alert, I wish I didn’t, although I don’t think I have been too spoiled. But to start telling people they are right or wrong, hmmm, this isn’t the right place. Go join Gallifrey Base.
I remain your guardian, although I do sleep sometimes!
17 May 2013 at 20:41 #9478@scaryb Yes, we’ve had around 6000 visits in a week (viewing over 5 pages each) and over 2000 unique visitors. So come and go as you please, you still only count as one unique visitor (unless you log in at work as well, or check us out on your iPad, iPhone etc. then you will be counted as 2 or 3 unique visitors).
I’m happy with where we are in the search rankings. Not sure I want us to be top because we may lose what we’ve got if we have a deluge of members. But then again, I was discussing this with one of my colleagues today and I think that the tone of this forum has been set, and it may be very difficult for it to be changed, even if a few trolls try.
17 May 2013 at 20:26 #9476@phaseshift @bluesqueakpip and @scaryb
I’m open to suggestion. I’ll shut the 50th thread and have a read through. It seems a shame to mothball it but it may well look prehistoric after Saturday. Hopefully after tomorrow I’ll have a clearer idea of how things should be organised.
For instance, we may need to start a new thread about what we think about Jenna-Louise as the new Doctor π
17 May 2013 at 20:17 #9474Cheers @scaryb Actually, I’ve been keeping an eye on the spoilers thread and no one has posted any real spoilers (maybe very minor ones). There have been a couple of links but then it’s down to you if you click them.
I am impressed with everyone on here. There has been so much respect shown for everyone else. Would it have been the same without the rumoured leak? I’d like to think so.
I’ve not had to beat off any trolls. It’s actually impossible for anyone to sign up at the mo. I know it seemed like someone did today but I think they signed up before and just clicked the confirmation email link this morning.
Re traffic stats, to me it’s pretty insane. We seem to have about 70ish active members, perhaps even less, yet in slightly less than a week we’ve had over 2000 unique visitors from all over the world. I have visited on several different devices so probably account for about 5 of them, but even if we all counted for 4 or 5 that still leaves a lot of other visitors. And page views is just insane. It’s over 30,000 now. Average time on site per visit is around 14 minutes.
Basically, for a reasonably new site I think we’re doing amazingly well. Keep it up! π
17 May 2013 at 19:38 #9469Thanks @bluesqueakpip I do value your advice. And I loved your post this morning. Now that would be breaking the 4th wall! π
17 May 2013 at 18:40 #9465@Shazzbot no probs at all. Yes, I wasn’t that happy with the way opening the new episode thread early worked out. Some people jumped in, but mostly posted jokes. The jokes were great but there was no real discussion, and at the same time others who were more spoiler averse didn’t want to risk visiting, so it split the community. I wouldn’t mind splitting the community if it really added to the conversation but I don’t think there was any really positive outcome.
So I think it’s probably best if conversation stays in the most recent episode’s thread until the next episode. Even if it’s theorising about the next episode, it’s probably going to be theorising based on what happened in the most recent episode.
Regarding the 50th we already have a “50th Anniversary Special” thread for that. What I think I may do is close that tomorrow to keep the conversation on TNotD for about 5 days or so, then open it up again.
In the words of Indiana Jones, “I’m making this up as I go
againalong”, but I’m hoping that will work and keep the conversation focused for everyone. π17 May 2013 at 16:52 #9452@phaseshift Great idea. And @whohar no problem at all.
I will be doing more work on it tonight, so hopefully will get it working soon. The problem so far is that changes I make to the blog text box also affect the forum text box and sometimes stop it working, or cause it to do strange things, but I think I’m getting close. Just need to isolate the issues.
17 May 2013 at 16:37 #9446@Shazzbot I love The Daily Mash. They also had a great story on the Doctor Who / Star Wars fan bust up:
17 May 2013 at 15:32 #9442The Daily Mash has an exclusive interview with Moffat π
As the series reaches a mind-bendingly complex conclusion far beyond the comprehension of normal minds, Moffat revealed he just wants to entertain Stephen Hawking.
17 May 2013 at 10:22 #9418@whohar I’ve been working on it. Turns out not to be that easy π‘ but hope to find a solution soon.
16 May 2013 at 22:50 #938616 May 2013 at 13:10 #9348@thommck I am fearless π
Nothing spoilery in it. Nothing much in it at all actually, just a few jokes and what we know already e.g the title of the episode.
16 May 2013 at 01:26 #9307@timeloop I’ve had enough. I’m definitely going to bed now!
(β―Β°β‘Β°οΌβ―οΈ΅ β»ββ»)
16 May 2013 at 00:46 #9301@htpbdet I’m sorry to hear that. Hope everything is reasonably okay, or as best as it can be. Can you not smuggle a TV in?
I’ll have a think, and will discuss with @phaseshift and @jimthefish, about the best way of splitting that forum up. As I said, forum topics and posts are not easily changed into blog posts and comments, but I think I have a solution which may work.
When we started, and had about 15-20 regular posters, one thread for Faces of the Doctor seemed sufficient, but I should have allowed for expansion. I did with the Episodes forum, but not in some of the General threads. Must do better next time π
I’m guessing you’ll be back before Friday, but if not, I wish you all the best and a speedy return, as I’m sure everyone here does. I’ve enjoyed reading all your contributions and you’ve become a central and invaluable part of our little community.
You have my very best wishes.
16 May 2013 at 00:17 #9296@timeloop Come on, Moffat has told us Doctor Who is going to be everywhere in the run up to the 50th. Don’t you believe him? π
P.S. You may have missed Phaseshift’s guide to using the site, but if you want proper smilies, here’s a good reference point:
15 May 2013 at 23:41 #9285And as I’m starting to get on a dance vibe, one last one before I go to bed. My favourite techno track of all time. There is no tune, the bass line is two notes, one an octave above the other, but it’s all about the production, especially on the drum track. There’s no video I’m afraid, but it’s hypnotic. @juniperfish may like it.
When I used to DJ it was also a great tune to go to the toilet to as it lasts 10 minutes. π
15 May 2013 at 23:33 #9284@whisht Another LCD Soundsystem track then. I love this for its cheap parody of Daft Punk tracks and videos (such as Around The World), but still managing to be its own thing.
15 May 2013 at 21:30 #9270@jimthefish et al BBC America has an article about the guy who did the posters for series 7. Is interesting if you like that sort of thing, as I do.
15 May 2013 at 21:16 #9269@whisht I love that True Faith video. I remember seeing the choreographed slapping for the first time and just thinking it was genius. I could have watched a full video of that. In fact, I refer you back to the “Losing My Edge” video I posted:
http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/general-music-thread/#post-5879
Will be back with more…
15 May 2013 at 21:02 #9268@chickenelly Yeah, I thought that sub-heading was overdoing it a bit too. π
15 May 2013 at 20:50 #9264@Shazzbot As long as there’s no trouble. Keep us away from Star Wars fans π
15 May 2013 at 20:39 #9263@Shazzbot and @timeloop If I’m right you won’t need any explanation. Of course, I could be wrong.
Timeloop: “Have a butcher’s” comes from Cockney rhyming slang. Have you heard of that? If not, Cockney’s developed their own language based on rhymes and many have now made it into common usage via TV programmes such as Eastenders.
The common way it is used is that a word is replaced by a phrase that rhymes with the word, but the actual rhyming part of the phrase is then dropped so outsiders won’t understand. So “butcher’s hook” replaces “look” but then the hook bit is dropped. So to have a look, is to have a butchers.
From wikipedia:
In similar fashion, “telephone” is replaced by “dog” (= ‘dog-and-bone’); “wife” by “trouble” (= ‘trouble-and-strife’); “eyes” by “minces” (= ‘mince pies’); “wig” by “syrup” (= ‘syrup of figs’) and “feet” by “plates” (= ‘plates of meat’). Thus a construction of the following type could conceivably arise: “It nearly knocked me off me platesβhe was wearing a syrup! So I ran up the apples, got straight on the dog to me trouble and said I couldn’t believe me minces.”
15 May 2013 at 19:49 #9253@Shazzbot Ha ha, no probs. Just thought I’d offer… Not saying anything more π
15 May 2013 at 18:28 #9247@Shazzbot Those pics could be seen as huge spoilers by some. I’m not going to discuss it here though. You’re right, they don’t reveal anything concrete, but if you want to know what they do seem to reveal I can PM you about them.
15 May 2013 at 18:20 #9244@Shazzbot, that’s Martha Jones as Nick Fury, and a scary looking Eleventh as Black Widow π
15 May 2013 at 17:04 #9222@Shazzbot Forbes has an interesting article from a social media marketing angle (which is how I found it) which calls the offer of extra footage “a deft jujitsu of marketing brilliance” and believes that
Word will circulate online for anybody interested in finding it, and the producers will release the special video anyway.
I think he’s right for all the reasons he gives.
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