@lisa

Bummer if its only 1-6 ! I haven’t pulled up the Amazon yet.

I have given this a lot of thought, but I have no idea what you are referring to! Was this intended for someone else perhaps?

Re: zygon Clara, there is nothing in the scene as shown that confirms she let the UNIT team die. It could have played out very differently. And there is n…[Read more]

@lisa Good point about referencing himself as Dr. Funkinstein and the Disco Doctor.  This would makes sense of my feelings that Clara and the Doctor didn’t really seem like Clara and Doctor.

@missy @lisa

I was a bit confused by the comment about deleting this episode because the Series DVD was on its way. Isn’t the release this week Season 9 Part 1 (Episodes 1-6)? Part 2 (Episodes 7-12) is released in December right after the finale.

I think a single Series 9 complete box set isn’t released till next year.

@lisa Brilliant!  Remember ME!

<span class=”useratname”>@countscarlioni  That was a heartbreaking song, and certainly could be the direction we are going.
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@lisa

To be fair, we’re not told he left 127 messages. What they say is that Clara had 127 missed calls.

@bluesqueakpip  I live in an area where children are being groomed by terrorists. This is too serious an issue to NOT make it family entertainment,

Second.  Absolutely.  Talk about it, don’t hide from it, or hide it from kids.  Darkness encourages mold; sunlight kills germs.

@mudlark  Yep, I hear you.  And ever since “Mary Tyler Moore” dealt…[Read more]

@purofilion

We could argue about ‘true love’ but as Missy says “can you humans understand the meaning of real friendship?” This is true love – as true as any sexual love, and as some Greeks would have it, truer and longer lasting than most other forms which flit and fly by on the ether.

Fully agree. Or perhaps along the lines of a…[Read more]

@purofilion
I understand that the companions are pivotal to the storylines and appreciate the strength they hold and even to the point you describe as co-leads. I’m not trying to diminish their importance at all. Just that the essence of Doctor Who is the Doctor himself. Every series since the re boot has been fundamentally about the Doctor and…[Read more]

@nerys  @django  @brewski @lisa  @FatManInaBox

If I’ve missed any other cocktail theorists in working through the comments, my apologies.
My original puzzlement over “cocktail” was not just with the word, but with what seemed to me the modern manner in which it was offered to Ashildr/Lady Me, as if could almost have been a moment from a cockta…[Read more]

@drben  Oh Master Blenkinsop, what a beautiful thought. For the Doctor to be in a position (yet again) to save Clara’s life, and for Ashildr, with her (by then) 1100 or so years of life, convincing him that the kinder choice is to let her go rather than prolong the inevitable. It’s poetic – bravo.  I also envision this as being part-an…[Read more]

@ichabod, @lisa, glad you liked the idea that Alshidr’s role may be to protect Clara from the Doctor’s attempt to save here, thereby allowiing Clara to fulfill her destiny.

I wonder if it might also support my idea, @purofilion, that the Doctor will (for a time at least) travel sans companion, as the loss will hit him hard.

If so, I suspect that…[Read more]

@lisa  Could it be Simon – ale – cocktail – ‘BREW’-ski ??

ROTFL!  Love it.  You gave me my best laugh of the day.  Also it’s kinda fun to be the target of the bonkers theory for a change. 🙂

@ichabod I’m pretty sure you’re right — I think that if he knew the details of Clara’s fate, he’d be spending some time trying to work out ways to avoid i…

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@jphamlore  But above all the episode is about what is just, what is fair, what is balanced. In the end Ashildr decides her role is to try and be some sort of balance in the lives of those who survive the visitation of a demigod the Doctor.

Love it!  “Justice” is a card that I always have trouble with, maybe because I’m a Libra, and as such h…[Read more]

@spacedmunkee  yes I thought it strange that ashildr would be so dismissive of Clara, given she helped her and was so nice to her in previous episode. Possibly she was jealous that the doctor chooses to travel with a “Mayfly” rather than her

I think so too — she clearly had expected that Clara was long gone, being just a mayfly, so Clara’s stil…[Read more]

@lisa @purofilion I enjoy your splendid expansions on my theory. But now my brain is done trying to tease this out. Can you believe this is keeping me up at nights? It is! (That and too much caffeine yesterday and today.)

Hmmm, @lisa that could indeed be the reason for the sonic sunglasses. The Doctor sees her as Clara, and somehow the sunglasses make it so that everyone else (except the Tardis) sees her that way. And except for Lady Me, who is there to let the Doctor know she knows exactly what’s going on. Maybe thanks to Missy, who unlike River is big on…[Read more]

@lisa

Ashildr does appear menacing. But I suspect that is born out of resentment she hasn’t been supported by the doctor since the fate he beset her. I don’t think she is concerned about aliens. If anything she most probably considers herself one now too and wants to be part of the gang!

Many many years have passed since she appears at those…[Read more]

So now I’m thinking Ashildr isn’t Ellie but is teasing that she is possession of knowledge as it relates to Clara origin story and has the intention to do something to her.

@lisa I like it. I’m sure something about memory or knowledge of something is going on. Me’s journals with pages cut out made me think it even more.

@lisa   Beautifully put!

@Brewski    @ichabod     Agreed, Capaldi made those lines into something pretty special.

It occurs to me to wonder how people can dismiss Doctor Who as “just a kid’s show” when it can inspire a conversation like this one! From plot points to “what is art” in a few posts. Nice.

@lisa, @blenkinsopthebrave, @purofilion, @ichabod  cheers! It was a very cool trip. Rewatched Fires Of Pompeii last night. Loved it even more now! No jet-lag, only 1 hour time difference from the UK so no probs there.

Ok, now caught up with comments. Overall I really enjoyed the episode. The scene cut from the practicing with real swords to the u…[Read more]