@jimthefish

Whilst I agree with you that BG Who would not have been worse off if the TL’s were never invented by Malcolm Hulke and Terence Dicks , the Doctor’s origin was a story that was always going to be told one day. I think they did their best to make the Time Lords as irrelevant as they could to the wider Who universe.

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@jimthefish

🙂 I have to agree with you there.

I think the biggest difference is (I hope) that the Christmas story will include the regeneration proper and will (like The Time of the Doctor) be the concluding part of what is essentially a three part story.

On the simulation idea front, I think it could be a let down to use it again. I think that Moff would need to have a very clever idea indeed to avoid spoiling the end of the S10.

However, I think Moff can have his cake and eat it here. If the plot of the Christmas show becomes “save Bill” (and Missy ?) then a story line where he changes his past…[Read more]

@jimthefish

I don’t disagree that Heather and the puddle might turn out to be nothing much (I think it will depend on whether Chibnall wants to keep Bill as the companion or not). The trailer nicely left out any direct references to Bill’s fate and the flash forward suggests the Doctor ends up alone. How significant that might be will (probably)…[Read more]

@tardigrade

On Bill’s fate- hers is a character I’d be sorry to see killed off after such a short period, but the cyber-conversion process hasn’t, I think, been reversible in the past. This is a very early version of the process though, so maybe that’s not 100%.

I’d be surprised if the technology existed on board the ship to do this. I would e…[Read more]

@thane15

Puro

We view things in a quite different way, even though I can’t disagree with the essence of what you write. My gut, visceral reaction immediately following the episode was that I had not just watched the last episode featuring Clara. I was so certain that Moff had an additional level planned for the Clara arc that it wasn’t even a…[Read more]

@thane15

Having written that, unlike the Raven ,where the episode never felt epic enough for me to believe that Clara was gone forever. This episode (and the next one) are epic, so the hope may prove to be futile.

I meant it in purely televisual terms. Killing a companion is so rare that it has happened only once in 50 years. The Raven was a…[Read more]

@jimthefish

And yet, and yet. SM also has the problem of the Master to deal with. I’ve said before it’s a perennial problem in bringing back the Master — once you’ve brought him/her back, you have to find something to do with them. Even the original show had this problem. After a bit of disguise tomfoolery, inventive dispatching of bit charact…[Read more]

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@whisht

🙂 I can and will be perfectly willing to agree with you as soon as the next episode.

Right now, so far as I could tell from the story, all we know is that the Master was on the ship (how/why ?), watched a genesis of the Cybermen and was instrumental in when Bill became a Cyberman (ie as soon as the process was refined and worked). The…[Read more]

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@lisa

Yes, the Master’s presence isnt fully explaned yet or is it ? The screen explanation that he knows Missy will be there at some point (from his past memories ?) and that he’s concerned that the Doctor’s redemption plan is beginning to succeed and he needs to stop it. In that case, presumably his Tardis is somewhere on the ship as well.

@missrori

The Doctor would have to remove the cyber-control system and the emotion limitation technology for Bill to become Cyber-Bill. The patients didnt seem to find that very acceptable. However, it would be ok if the Cyber-conversion was removed totally and a replacement heart/lung technology (or cloning) was used to repair her physically. I…[Read more]

@craig

I think John Simm must have been awed by your magnificence’s fine visage, O Craig the Merciless.

@pedant

Yes in that case, Moff made them all forget (something due to the regeneration wasnt it ?). However, as a general explanation it doesn’t work in any of the BG multi-Doctor specials.

@missrori

I’m not much into the blame game line of thinking, but

Also, with regards to the Doctor and Bill, I’m tired of all these folks elsewhere saying that it’s all his fault!  

in this case, he does have the majority of the responsibility.

• It was his idea to let it be the Missy Who show as opposed his
• Bill told him her very sign…

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