@whohar @dentarthurdent @thane16 @janetteb @winston

Davros and ablism. It’s not a simple ‘No! Not on my watch’ surely? Yes, the world has moved on, and we got Shirley and (see below) Jinkx Monsoon on the show, but there are ways of playing it, ain’t there? 12 turfed Davros out of his unit and rode it like a bumper car. I’ve said it before bu…[Read more]

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RTD1: weird narcissistic racism, venal politicians, polyamory, shaggy dog stories about royal malaises, tech monocultures, nerds and their love interests,  racism in the past, environmental collapse, imperial heritage, more venal politicians, assisted weight loss, slavery, xenosexuality, super-wealthy…[Read more]

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On the face of it, the ‘let it go’ moment is definitely a bit clumsy. Or you could read it as a generic ‘hey, these are just people’ statement.’ Or it’s RTD getting his revenge in first. I wasn’t studying the forums or meta at that stage, but I imagine Russ knew what was coming.

Otherwise you wonder if…[Read more]

@whohar @ps1l0v3y0u @dentarthurdent @janetteB  Another thought that our son had in reference to RTD2 comeback were these specific issues of identity.

As the Doctor was male, he couldn’t let go of the Dr/Donna crisis, but Donna could pass the meta crisis energy to her non-binary daughter so this burden was split & Donna avoided inevitable le…[Read more]

@whohar  quite. I was reading, a couple of years back, how the Knowledge illusion convinces us that the collective knowledge of our community exists equally within each of us when this is a furphy.

By using only our individual stories (of class, family,) we put ourselves against others with different perspectives or stories (even those with…[Read more]

@whohar yes, the Christian Right who are very often neither 😉

To all….. this is a fascinating discussion. And yes, the nature of ethical topicality was observed & lauded by RTD & Chibbers post-2015 (I love your descriptions @ps1l0v3y0u ) & whilst they tied up my favourite season (s 5) a little too speedily, @PS & @dentarthurdent I didn’t see it as a reset myself? But most definitely is Mavity a clue to ano…[Read more]

@thane16 @dentarthurdent @janetteb @whohar @winston

Was RTD rubbing the viewers’ nose in it? Being ‘arsy’? Not arf!

I’m not sure ‘woke’ would be anymore than a novel and obscure adjective if not for The Culture Warriors. Why persecute religious or racial targets when you can choose to denounce absolutely anyone who disagrees with you?

Of co…[Read more]

@winston halloo!! @ps1l0v3y0u @whohar @dentarthurdent

yes, Moffat loved the humour & it’s what made it entertaining to me- thus rewatchable. I rewatched Listen and the Under the Lake 2-parter with 12’s “cards” that Clara organised.

RTD did humour too. Once. And even though message-heavy Dr Who existed in the 60s it was clever, sardonic, mature,…[Read more]

@whohar    I’d agree wholeheartedly with all that.

Also, I’d add, the writing lacked a certain polish or sparkle that Moff used to inject into it.   And, I think, a certain sense of humour.   I’m thinking of, say, the interaction between Clara and the Doctor in Flatline, or the Doctors in Day of the Doctor.   Can anyone point to a Chibz episode…[Read more]

@dentarthurdent Oooh I loved Cassandra! That whole configuration with Cassandra, the Doctor/Tennant playing her as well Piper’s brilliant mimicking worked a treat. The “bouncy castle” line is ace!

That’s one episode I rewatch because it’s funny, it takes one out of oneself but the ending, where the clone-grown humans are  released & well, brin…[Read more]

Oh boy! My post vanished!

I’ll do a recap. @whohar @dentarthurdent @ps1l0v3y0u

I enjoyed Listen, particularly how Clara & the Doc can play against each other & poke fun? In my 20s I couldn’t accept my figure or my face.

I wondered as to how RTD with his “that’s alright” from the Toymaker seemed a gentle dig at Moffat? Though RTD brought b…[Read more]

@ps1l0v3y0u   I think what you call ‘bloke adjuncts’ is simply within the normal range of reactions of one human towards another human(oid).   The premise of the show is that the Doctor is the Main Character (and happened to be a bloke).   The Companion was, like all hero’s companions, a supporting character – except that, from ‘Rose’ onwar…[Read more]

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Thought I’d move over here…

Right! Neither I, nor Cardinals Fang or Biggles quite expected that!

Personally, I start off with the existential question ‘why should any right-minded Whovian be u fuly critical of Moff?’; and ‘how could the show written by Chib be both SO tedious AND incoherent.’ It shouldn’t b…[Read more]

@dentarthurdent I think @ps1l0v3y0u meant that women could sometimes be written as “another bloke” as opposed to a well thought out female character. If I’m wrong please chip in.

There are so many rules or concepts associated with writing for any character that I don’t know how anybody does it without facing criticism. But I was impressed with Am…[Read more]

@whohar   I was aware that in devoting a couple of column inches to the Bechtel test I was maybe giving it far more significance than it (IMO) merited.   But that’s one of those can’t-win things.

I do like strong female characters who don’t just stand on a chair and scream when they see a mouse.   (Though I did have a female acquaintance last…[Read more]

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Until about 8 years ago I was ignorant of the Bechdel Test myself. I actually thought Moff’s female characters were well rounded (not just …ahem….well rounded…) progressing from confused & helpless to “being the Doctor.”

Over the years one notices how companions evolve. In the 2000s the Doctor saved his beloved com…[Read more]

@dentarthurdent

Cor, yes! MI5’s ziggurat: a perfect description of it. I wonder who employed the architect to build THAT?  Oh yes! El Trumpo presenting the prize. What a delicious moment.

Yes, the fan service was evident, wasn’t it? I think even Mrs Flood’s status was confused with her monologue to Ms Cherry in Season 1 (almost like AD or CE org…[Read more]

Hey to all!! @whohar @ps…. @translatorcircuit @janetteb @nerys @winston @dentarthurdent @blenkinsopthebrave

oh boy, yes, the latest info on all things Who made me feel a tad off? I found out that the so called Special wasn’t really much of a special at all: whilst in a hotel room, doom scrolling on YouTube on a site run by a young British lad…[Read more]

@whohar Thank you for the update. I did worry that they might be the people that decided on the infamous i-daleks.

cheers

Janette