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  • #72988
    nerys @nerys

    Has anyone been watching Picard this season and finding it … well, a little off? It feels very different to me … and not in a good way. Season 2 is really lacking the serenity of Season 1, IMO. And what on earth did they do to the opening theme music?

    #72989
    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    @nerys Yes, I tend to agree. I was intrigued by the beginning, and up until they arrive in 2024. But when they started to cram all the actors from the future into the past, and and invented a Picard family history, the story seemed to crowded and sort of…disingenuous. There is nothing like the episode “Nepenthe” in this series.

    #72991
    nerys @nerys

    @blenkinsopthebrave I keep hoping things will improve, but it just doesn’t feel like the same series at all. It was telling that I didn’t even recognize the opening theme music. I had to give the old theme another listen to remember what it sounds like. Why they felt they had to replace it with that overly dramatic mishmash is beyond me.

    Last year, I measured Picard against the mixed success of Discovery. I liked the first season of Discovery, but then was put off by the Marvel Comics cloning combined with the “we must connect every last friggin’ dot to the original Star Trek series” approach in Season 2. That, along with the forced insistence on making the lead character more appealing by directly relating her to Spock, all felt very hyper-paced and derivative, while failing to bring many (any?) original ideas to the table.

    Once they got themselves unchained from their current time stream in Season 3, that’s when I felt Discovery finally came into its own as a series, and I was happy to sit back and enjoy it. My verdict is still out on this season. It’s not coming together for me in the same way. But I’ll see it through to the end before making a final decision.

    So you can understand why, in comparison, Season 1 of Picard felt like a breath of fresh air. I appreciated the slower pacing, and I thought it did a wonderful job of bringing new and familiar characters into the story without telling us to care about them, but showing us (through good writing and acting) why we should. Sadly, much of that is missing this season.

    Has anyone watched Gomorrah? I should warn you: If you are not into violence, do not watch this series. Think a more authentic Godfather … on steroids … in Italy.

    We just watched the last episode … and I’m still processing it. One thing that struck me was the production values. I really haven’t felt that way about a TV series since Miami Vice. For better or worse (and Miami Vice was a very uneven ride, especially after the first season), it did change network television by filming each episode like a movie: Framing shots in artistic ways, creating beautiful interiors and utilizing exterior locations to their maximum effect, incorporating original and recorded music, etc. I found each episode of Gomorrah similarly riveting. The emotional intensity between the characters, combined with exquisite cinematography and set design, created an amazing television series that, unlike Miami Vice, actually got better as it went along.

    I have read that Season 4 of Westworld is due out this summer. Again, be forewarned: Violence … on steroids … on an island (well, at least in the first two seasons). I loved the first two seasons and, while I liked the third season, I felt that by reducing the number of episodes, HBO forced the writers to compact the story and push it along too quickly. As a result, I didn’t feel the same connection I felt to the first two seasons. Still, Season 3 of *Westworld* is better than 90 percent of what’s on these days, so … who am I to complain? Hopefully they don’t repeat that in Season 4.

    #72992
    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    @nerys The other TV show I have been watching (on Apple) is the spy mystery “Slow Horses” with Gary Oldman and Kristin Scott Thomas. And I am really enjoying it. Gary Oldman is very good as the irascible head of a group of agents who have been demoted from MI5 for past mistakes to a grim office where they are delegated menial tasks, but who are drawn into solving a potential terror event. In terms of approach, imagine a cross between John le Carre and Armando Iannucci.

    #72993
    janetteB @janetteb

    @blenkinsopthebrave. “Slow Horses” sounded interesting. I will look out for it

    @nerys we have not started watching series 2 of Picard yet. Son and fiancé are currently watching it and say it is not as good as series 1 but they are still enjoying it. I really liked series one but feel that its strength was that the series was shaped around a single story and am not surprised at all that series 2 does not match up.

    We have been watching the animated Star Wars series, Rebels and Clone Wars and really enjoyed them. Book of Bobba Fett was highly forgettable however but still looking forward now to Obi Wan Kanobi. (and given time I might even know how to spell the names.) In the meantime we are back to watching Dr Who, working through Matt Smith’s first series.

    Oh and our last podcast was on Catweazle from the 70s. The younger generations did not share our love of it. (unsurprisingly) but we talked for well over an hour so I have a lot of editing to do so probably won’t be watching anything for the next couple of nights.

    Cheers

    Janette

     

     

    #73002
    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    @janetteb, @nerys, Here is a brief taste of “Slow Horses”

     

    #73005
    winston @winston

    @blenkinsopthebrave   @nerys   and @janetteb     Lots of new ideas for future viewing!  We really liked Picard series 1 but have not watched 2 yet. Here’s hoping we will like it. Mr likes Westworld but I give it a miss because it is just too violent for me. I am looking forward to Obi Wan as an old but sincere Star Wars fan.

    I have been watching a BBC? show called Ghosts that is made by the same bunch that do Horrible Histories so it is funny and well written but definitely family friendly. Sometimes I just want to watch something nice and easy and this fits the bill. If you can find a new Canadian show called “Son of a Critch” you will love it. It is a sweet and funny sitcom about growing up in Newfoundland. It even has Malcolm McDowell as the grandfather while Mark Critch , the writer,  plays his own father. As my Mother used to say “good clean fun”

    stay safe

    #73006
    Albert @albert

    I like Ghosts and Horrible Histories, they are both funny.

    Have any of you watched Torchwood, Class or the Sarah Jane Adventures?

    I have watched a bit of the Simpsons: it’s ok.

    If therd is anything else you recommend please tell me.

    Albert.

    #73008
    nerys @nerys

    @blenkinsopthebrave You mentioned that Slow Horses is on Apple TV, which we don’t have. I will have to seek it out via some other network (which might be possible in Canada).

    #73074
    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    Just finished watching the first season of “Slow Horses” with Gary Oldman. A really enjoyable and excellently plotted spy series. It is based on the first novel in a series by Mick Herron. Was pleasantly surprised to discover at the end of the last show a teaser trailer for the second season (with the same cast) based on the second novel in the series. Obviously, I cannot reveal the twists and turns, but suffice to say that the show continues a sort of vaguely Le Carre tradition of the immorality of insiders vs. the morality of outsiders. But with a bit more humour than one finds in Le Carre. Highly recommended. Here in Canada it is available on Apple TV.

    #73413
    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    Peter Capaldi. Steven Moffat. Time.

    Coming soon.

    #73414
    janetteB @janetteb

    and Sue Vertue. (I think it a little ironical that Moffat is accused of misogyny in his writing when he is frequently working for his wife. Kind of think she might call him out if he was being misogynist. )

    It sounds interesting and with that cast cannot be bad surely? Will watch out for it. Thanks for the link, @blenkinsopthebrave.

    Cheers
    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Janette</p>

    #73415
    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    … and for once this is exactly the right forum (not that that ever stopped anyone) –  by total coincidence I’ve just this minute finished watching the first episode of Sherlock, written/produced by, of course, Steven Moffat, Sue Vertue and Mark Gatiss.   I have to say it’s pretty good.   I’ve had the box set sitting on the shelf for a year and for some curious reason never got around to watching them.   The Guardian interview with the Moff yesterday brought it to mind.

    I have to say the dialogue doesn’t sparkle quite the way Capaldi’s Doctor Who did, but maybe that’s because Sherlock is actually a more grounded series, or maybe because it has two male leads (Holmes and Watson) rather than having a male and female (as in Doctor and companion).   I have this feeling that having a male-female pairing lightens the tone, or maybe I’m quite wrong and talking nonsense, I dunno.   Cumberbatch and Freeman are very good in it, though.

    But anyway, back to that trailer for The Devil’s Hour, it reminds me again what a marvellous actor Capaldi is.   Just his voice makes me want to hear more.   Some actors are lucky that way.

     

    #73416
    winston @winston

    @blenkinsopthebrave   That looks very interesting and I put it on my watch list. Thanks.

    @dentarthurdent  I am a massive fan of Sherlock and have watched it all a few times. It modernizes the characters and stories excellently, bringing Holmes and Watson to life in our time. It also has a really good cast! Have fun watching.

    Stay safe.

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